Phil Fish has Twitter tantrum, cancels Fez 2 and goes home with his ball

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I guess someone can't take what he dishes out. I've never criticized this guy before but seriously he needs to start acting like an adult.
 
Treefingers said:
I agree. But a lot of the hate in this thread is directed disproportionately at him, and very little at the gaming community's participation in this whole thing. That's what irks me.
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The thing is, though, he's just one guy broadcasting to the masses. To expect a proportionate reaction would be expect that everyone in the world who reacts negatively to his statements are somehow linked together and coordinating their response. The reality is that they are all reacting individually. When you broadcast antagonism to the masses, there's no telling what you're going to get.
 
EatinOlives said:
Mostly done by juniors.

In a more perfect world something like this would make people step back and think the sheer amount of hate-filled vitriol gamers spew on a daily basis is enough to drive at least a few talented people away from the industry, but obviously we're getting some good old dancing-on-grave action instead.
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yep gaming is the only industry where hate is thrown around, forget every other industry ever in the existence of mankind.
 
BanGy.nz said:
The amount of victim blaming in this thread is sickening.
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"Victim blaming" implies that the victim in question is an innocent, someone who has been attacked without provocation and is being unfairly blamed for bringing that abuse on themselves. Would you really characterize Phil Fish that way?
 
Tellaerin said:
"Victim blaming" implies that the victim in question is an innocent, someone who has been attacked without provocation and is being unfairly blamed for bringing that abuse on themselves. Would you really characterize Phil Fish that way?
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"Well, I like his game, and he insults people I don't like, so of course he's a victim~"
 
njean777 said:
No you didn't, but just because gaming has people who talk shit all the time doesn't mean it detracts talented people. Every single industry has shit talkers. Every single one.
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Er, it detracted this one.

And, again, I never said this problem is unique to the gaming industry.
 
Have a Nice Day said:
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's not seriously about leaving.
 
I don't think there's any defending the kind of abuse I presume people in his position have to put up with. Clearly he deals with it worse than most people and his reactions just fuel the fire. That's just tragic though, and it's bad for everyone except the people who value their internet drama more than the well being of someone who's work they enjoy.
 
Zefah said:
The thing is, though, he's just one guy broadcasting to the masses. To expect a proportionate reaction would be expect that everyone in the world who reacts negatively to his statements are somehow linked together and coordinating their response. The reality is that they are all reacting individually. When you broadcast antagonism to the masses, there's no telling what you're going to get.
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I understand, and I agree. All I'm saying is that people should take a look at the other side of the equation as well, which is the community.
 
What a cluster fuck of a weekend this has been so far. Holy hell.

Hopefully Phil will take the time to get his head on straight. His behavior strongly suggests that he is not happy with his life as it is. Very easy to lash out and be a general butthead when you're unhappy or depressed. I've been there.
 
I'm glad baka gaijin Phil Fish has retired. He attempted to bring shame on the Japanese game industry and got what he deserved. Now I can play my low quality designed-by-rote JRPGs in peace without anyone ever pointing out to me that I might be playing utter wank. Onwards and upwards.
 
Phil is being thin-skinned and the Internet as usual is looking for a reason to be faux outraged. Plenty of mutual trolling and both sides need to just take a step back already...
 
Treefingers said:
I understand, and I agree. All I'm saying is that people should take a look at the other side of the equation as well, which is the community.
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Fair enough. I most certainly don't endorse any of the really strong vitriol against him or the suggestions that he deserves any kind of physical harm or whatever.
 
Tellaerin said:
"Victim blaming" implies that the victim in question is an innocent, someone who has been attacked without provocation and is being unfairly blamed for bringing that abuse on themselves. Would you really characterize Phil Fish that way?
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No but I wouldn't characterize Phil Fish as someone whose comments have warranted this much discussion and warranted this many petty insults, over, and over, and over again until it becomes nauseating to watch. Seriously, if Phil Fish is an asshole then so are well over half the people who know his name, and Phil Fish is certainly an asshole

It's like I said in one of the other stupid fucking Phil Fish threads

Phil Fish acts like an ass occasionally and has said some stupid fucking shit in his time. He definitely helped bring things to this point, even if NEITHER SIDE, not Fish nor the pitchforking hordes, wants to ever admit any part in the escalation. One look at damn near any internet discussion involving him, though, and it becomes apparent that he's just one loud Fish in a big old fucking sea of shit fish. And by shit fish, I mean shit people
 
Seems like an emotional guy. Even though I think he acts online like he has a few screws loose, he also is obviously creative and talented. I wish him the best with whatever he does, though he should be aware that any medium has it's critics and antagonistic press.
 
Socreges said:
It does seem like the only people who actually feel sorry for him or are defending him are those that have a bit of hero worship going on. Take any random person unfamiliar with Fez or the persons involved and explain the entire situation... I can't imagine they'd feel sorry for Phil Fish.
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I'm a random person. Didn't recognize Phil Fish's name before this incident. Considered buying, but never bought Fez on PC. Never considered buying it on Xbox for the bug and other reasons unrelated to Fez. Never saw Indie Game. Don't follow game developers or game journalists (I don't follow other celebrities either, just their works.)

What I'm seeing in this situation is that 1) Fish and the other developer guy didn't like being asked for their opinion about a story that they didn't know all the facts about, 2) this journalist goes off on a tirade against them, and 3) Fish quits the industry. 1 is understandable, 2 is unprofessional, and 3 is an unbelievable overreaction. From what I'm gathering, 1 is even more understandable since it appears the journalists might have been going after a comment specifically from them as kind of a "gotcha."
 
Him having bipolar actually explains a lot as to why he acted the way he did. I can see why he wouldn't just leave those petty insults thrown at him alone. I'm no psychiatrist, but I've been diagnosed by one and experienced(and still is) the illness first-hand and have been undergoing therapy and taking medication for years. And let me tell you; if a person with the disorder takes offense to an insult or something, they take it really hard. I'm talking about something stupid like "he stinks" or "piece of trash" and it'll really get a huge reaction out of them and wouldn't let go. And depending on how bad your case is, your emotions are all intensified and you don't really have much control over it. If he's been receiving hate mails for awhile, well, it was only a matter of time before it got to him. Him stepping over the line by telling Beer to kill himself and him quitting just like that without thinking it through are kind of a giveaway.

Assuming that his disorder is not a hoax, I imagine he's a wreck right now. I don't think anybody in their right mind would quit their profession just to get attention, I mean do you seriously believe that? I honestly hope this whole thing is just a terrible joke schemed by an attention-seeking troll. It's better that way.
 
njean777 said:
This guy made it happen though, when a person constantly spits abuse to others then expect it to happen back to you. It is the golden rule in action.
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The abuse the guy was getting was completely disproportional. He was a jerk on twitter, but people have an irrational seething hatred and took it out on his work. You'd think he was a Neo-Nazi calling for genocide with the way people were talking about him.
 
Squirrel Killer said:
I'm a random person. Didn't recognize Phil Fish's name before this incident. Considered buying, but never bought Fez on PC. Never considered buying it on Xbox for the bug and other reasons unrelated to Fez. Never saw Indie Game. Don't follow game developers or game journalists (I don't follow other celebrities either, just their works.)

What I'm seeing in this situation is that 1) Fish and the other developer guy didn't like being asked for their opinion about a story that they didn't know all the facts about, 2) this journalist goes off on a tirade against them, and 3) Fish quits the industry. 1 is understandable, 2 is unprofessional, and 3 is an unbelievable overreaction. From what I'm gathering, 1 is even more understandable since it appears the journalists might have been going after a comment specifically from them as kind of a "gotcha."
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Its not just the journalist that made him quit. Hes been personally attacked on social media for over a year and today this whole annoyed gamer thing brought those people out again in troves which set him off. The hate from gamers is what made him choose to quit.
 
He always criticize the japanese developers but cant handle one. No place for fags in the industry. Off you go!!! Like if the industry is depending on him or shit
 
Axass said:
I had AWFUL social skills, many years later I'm succesful in almost anything I do, I'm fine between people and I'm considered smart and funny. It's not a curse, you have to fight and better yourself.

To stay on topic... Fish isn't socially inept, he's just an ass most of the times, there's no social ineptitude in calling people names and telling guys to kill themselves.
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This. I have a friend that doesnt really have great social skills, but he still ends up making friends with people he's introduced to. He's a likable guy, just not usually able to break the ice naturally. Having awful social skills is something that can be improved upon, its not something you're cursed with in that you can change social skills.

EDIT: Bowser edit that asap.
 
EatinOlives said:
The abuse the guy was getting was completely disproportional. He was a jerk on twitter, but people have an irrational seething hatred and took it out on his work. You'd think he was a Neo-Nazi calling for genocide with the way people were talking about him.
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I don't think he was a bad guy or anything, and I liked Fez, but the second you give any credence to the loud, insulting minority, it grows more rapidly than you'd imagine.
 
1: Fish is obviosly kind of an asshole.
2: Some GAF members aren't much different.
3: Many GAF juniors aren't much different.

Conclusion: Humans are incredibly limited and stupid, but we already know that, right?
And that's the TL,DR, folks.
 
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