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it seems as if

actually I watched the video elsewhere and you can hear badger and skinny pete's stupid conversation really well but jesse is still zoned out of course

Here is one I can find off hand http://www.spoilertv.com/2013/08/breaking-bad-episode-509-blood-money.html

 

[Mr. Saturn]

it seems as if

Spoiler

Jesse has found something out and his mind is drowning out the ceaseless debating about petty shit that badger and Skinny Pete are having.

In moments like this, the sound mixing goes distant and subdued, emphasizing his distance from the events in his immediate surroundings. In other words, whatever happened is too fucked up to allow him to focus on basic shit.

Spoiler

Brock! Nah, there's no way Jesse would find that out in the first episode right?

 

[Frolow]

The show has made it a point to show that Walt's ego always, always prevents him from accepting less or making rational decisions anymore as it relates to his family. Whether cancer caused this aberration in his personality or whether it has always been there is debatable (I think it is heavily implied Walt's ego ruined his position in Grey Matter as well), but that is definitely a primary aspect of his characterization.

Walt had so many times to leave this life. It cannot possibly be emphasized enough just how many chances he had to completely disconnect and every single time he opted to put himself and his family in more danger. Every single time. He even had an opportunity that would have solved his financial woes whilst letting him lead a peaceful , crime-free life; he refused that too. He doesn't want to leave. He never wants to leave. Cooking and having a product people love makes Walt feel special, dominate. Owning this 'empire' makes him feel like the alpha male, whereas before he felt - wrongly, typically - that he was not given a fair shake in life. That he was destined for more and for whatever reason it keeps being taken from him. He lives in the shadow of the fact that it was likely his ego that made him give up a position in a company that is now worth billions. The speech he gives to Jesse on the couch of his home in Season 5 all but backs up that he will never feel enough is enough.

Am I really to believe that Skylar showing him how high his stack of cash got in the storage locker is going to make him quit the life of crime? That he is really, after every inch of the show showing Walt continually blinded by his ego, going to drop that character trait to live in harmony with his friends and family again?

You are right that it's possible Skylar was just acting nice in that last scene to put on a good face for family. That's why I said "I await this new season to see if it can fix that scene", because there can be details about it that simply haven't been revealed yet that make it feel more natural.

But if it is what it seems at face value, then it's out of character. Walt can never return to that life.

I forgot about the scene with Walt discussing how much Grey Matter is worth to Jesse. With that in mind, it would seem a little off-putting if the money was the sole reason Walt decided to call it quits. You mention how Walt had many opportunities to leave the business but never did. And you're absolutely correct, Walt never felt like he was in control or had enough to justify leaving. And at the end of last Season, Walt finally has it all: Nobody to tell him what to do and complete power over everything. But still, even with the control he has, it's possible that Skyler convinced him that enough was enough when she showed up the billions of dollars he made. Billions, an amount of money that would rival Grey Matter. And as I mentioned before, the cancer could very well be back so that might have been the tipping point for Walt with the money in mind. Even if the money was the sole reason, I still think that would be a decently fitting reason as to why Walt quit, with or without the cancer coming back.

 

[Amir0x]

Jeeze man. Look I get that people don't like Skyler but wishing someone would kill themselves is pretty sickening...

Are a bunch of people really gonna cheer if she hangs herself on screen because she couldn't take the lifestyle anymore

it's not misogyny though, don't ever think it! [/sarcasm] ;0

I'm just glad this final season will put to death once and for all this argument. Skylar haters already pretty much lost the debate seasons ago, but it'll be nice to see the final deconstruction of Walt's character and the final hilarious justifications for why Skylar is a dumb bitch for standing in the way of letting him be a murderous sociopath or whatever.

I forgot about the scene with Walt discussing how much Grey Matter is worth to Jesse. With that in mind, it would seem a little off-putting if the money was the sole reason Walt decided to call it quits. You mention how Walt had many opportunities to leave the business but never did. And you're absolutely correct, Walt never felt like he was in control or had enough to justify leaving. And at the end of last Season, Walt finally has it all: Nobody to tell him what to do and complete power over everything. But still, even with the control he has, it's possible that Skyler convinced him that enough was enough when she showed up the billions of dollars he made. Billions, an amount of money that would rival Grey Matter. And as I mentioned before, the cancer could very well be back so that might have been the tipping point for Walt with the money in mind. Even if the money was the sole reason, I still think that would be a decently fitting reason as to why Walt quit, with or without the cancer coming back.

If the show didn't make it clear, money is also not why Walt is in this. Money is now simply a means to continue this life. That may have initially been part of his motivation, but now it's also tangential to the true reason he does what he does. It's because it makes him feel powerful. It feeds his ego. And sitting on his lazy ass with hordes of cash that he can't even adequately share with most people why he earned it is not a position Walt's ego would allow anymore. He enjoys that power, enjoys living on the edge. He is willing to risk every element of his life over chasing this feeling. As with many powerful men, things like cash and family are thinly veiled justifications for collapsed personalities that are usually merely self-obsessed with the stature that living the life allows them.

 

[Gorillaz]

Hanks best option is to keep it close to the chest and try to track Walt without Walt knowing. See where it goes.

This is breaking bad though, and Walt will find out eventually that Hank knows, and shit will start hitting the fan big time.

Sunday might be when it starts .Vince said on there podcast after that last episode they felt it was finally time to let it all drop. Nothing really to build up to or stall

Well see tho.

 

[Amir0x]

Sunday might be when it starts .Vince said on there podcast after that last episode they felt it was finally time to let it all drop. Nothing really to build up to or stall

Well see tho.

Hank is definitely immediately starting an investigation on this bitch. I can't wait to see Hank's holy-fucking-shit defining moment after the full weight of the Heisenberg revelation dawns on him. God has he ever earned it.

Hank is such a turned around character. Early on I really didn't dig him, felt like an overbearing character that was more for comic relief, but they slowly started building him into this complex figure that I can't help but root for. If anyone deserves to be standing alive and unharmed by this at the end, it's Hank.

 

[Mr. Saturn]

Hank is definitely immediately starting an investigation on this bitch. I can't wait to see Hank's holy-fucking-shit defining moment after the full weight of the Heisenberg revelation dawns on him. God has he ever earned it.

Hank is such a turned around character. Early on I really didn't dig him, felt like an overbearing character that was more for comic relief, but they slowly started building him into this complex figure that I can't help but root for. If anyone deserves to be standing alive and unharmed by this at the end, it's Hank.

So Amir0x if you think Hank is going to start an investigation immediately (which I think he will) then I'm guessing that the inscription in the book isn't enough to arrest Walt at this moment right and he's going to need something more substantial?

I don't see how the inscription alone would be enough, but it's not like my opinion is the end-all-be-all.

 

[CharminUltra]

What's the best Breaking Bad podcast? Or rather, the one where Vince appear the most? Is it the official one on AMC's website?

 

[Guess Who]

So Amir0x if you think Hank is going to start an investigation immediately (which I think he will) then I'm guessing that the inscription in the book isn't enough to arrest Walt at this moment right and he's going to need something more substantial?

I don't see how the inscription alone would be enough, but it's not like my opinion is the end-all-be-all.

Hank is going to leave the bathroom and act like nothing happened, then take it up with his friends at the DEA later. It would be the worst possible move to immediately confront Walt about it.

 

[ThanksVision]

So obv Leaves of Grass isn't the proof Hank needs. What do you guys think Hank will find that confirms everything? I think he might find the storage unit filled with cash.

 

[sappyday]

I really doubt Hank will tell the DEA. He'll probably investigate on his own or even just straight up talk to Walt.

Hank is gonna go solo on this. But I really do think he's gonna let Walt go. The reason Walt is someone else in the flashback is because Hank told him to leave, not because he killed someone. Well that's what I think anyways.

 

[triplestation]

ees toothey de day?

 

[Nameless]

Hank might bring Gomi into the fold but he's not going directly to the DEA after what happened to Merkert. Turning Walt in effectively ruins his career and tears apart his family.

 

[Fry]

Definitely think Hank will investigate all on his own, and obviously won't confront Walter about it.

 

[ThanksVision]

y'all know the first scene Walt and Hank have together when they both know what's up and Walt doesn't have to pretend to be a bumbling fool anymore DANG

 

[GlenChivas]

Hank is going to leave the bathroom and act like nothing happened, then take it up with his friends at the DEA later. It would be the worst possible move to immediately confront Walt about it.

Yep. No way he takes it to the DEA any time soon. Once they found out that the meth king of the Southwest was having weekly dinners sitting across from Hank they'd crucify him. His career would be finished. It's been a while since I've watched but wasn't he promoted to regional director or something like that? I think he tells them eventually but not right away.

 

[Guess Who]

But I really do think he's gonna let Walt go.

That would be the most out-of-character action I can imagine. Hank's been chasing after Heisenberg like he's the holy grail, even after he was booted from the DEA, even when no one else gave a shit. He's not just going to let that go.

 

[Gorillaz]

What's the best Breaking Bad podcast? Or rather, the one where Vince appear the most? Is it the official one on AMC's website?

They have an official one on itunes. Its Vince, producers, director of the ep they are discussing and a member of the cast. Not the star ones tho but they did have sky sky on one podcast. Its a lot more of talk about the camera work and direction of the show.

ees toothey de day?

Look at me bangladesh

 

[Nameless]

Definitely think Hank will investigate all on his own, and obviously won't confront Walter about it.

This will be tough too; he was already reprimanded for skirting on ASAC duties to do field work. Hank is going to have to work the 'Doakes shift' to get anything done and it's not like Walt's even cooking.

 

[Dastardly Jerks]

ONE DAY LET'S GO LET'S GO LET'S GO

 

[Intheflorsh]

What's the best Breaking Bad podcast? Or rather, the one where Vince appear the most? Is it the official one on AMC's website?

Well Vince is in every single episode of the Breaking Bad insider podcast and Cranston and other actors frequently come on too.

The Ones who Knock is pretty decent as well.

Spoiler

Brock! Nah, there's no way Jesse would find that out in the first episode right?

Daayum.

 

[sappyday]

That would be the most out-of-character action I can imagine. Hank's been chasing after Heisenberg like he's the holy grail, even after he was booted from the DEA, even when no one else gave a shit. He's not just going to let that go.

Yea but that was before Hank knew Walt is Heisenberg. Of course Hank will be emotionally torn and mentally unstable because of this but the only thing I think he can do in order to benefit the family is to get rid of Walt one way that it won't hurt anyone else. That's by making him get a new identity.

 

[Mr. Saturn]

Daayum.

?

 

[triplestation]

Look at me bangladesh

>:S

 

[Guess Who]

Yea but that was before Hank knew Walt is Heisenberg. Of course Hank will be emotionally torn and mentally unstable because of this but the only thing I think he can do in order to benefit the family is to get rid of Walt one way that it won't hurt anyone else. That's by making him get a new identity.

Walt being Heisenberg changes nothing. Hank's not going to let one of the most prolific, high-profile meth cooks and a murderer just walk free because he's family. That's just stupid.

 

[Intheflorsh]

?

Damn.

 

[Fry]

This will be tough too; he was already reprimanded for skirting on ASAC duties to do field work. Hank is going to have to work the 'Doakes shift' to get anything done and it's not like Walt's even cooking.

Yeah, it's not like he's going to follow Walt around and manage to get some clues since he's done cooking.

Maybe Walt will get caught talking to Lydia.

 

[Mr. Saturn]

Damn.

lol I got that I was just wondering what I said to give you that reaction. Do you think what I said might actually happen in the first episode?

That would be a heavy thing to happen so early on.

Edit: Schweini, that could happen, or Hank could find the storage unit where the money is kept.

 

[Batigol]

Thinking Walt kills Skyler is similar to thinking Mike's body parts and head were in the duffel bags Walt left for Jesse. Yes he is one loco mofo but that's a bit much lol.

One can only hope!

 

[squidyj]

Why won't Hank arrest Walt in like the first minute of the season opener

Evidence, money damaging his credibility. I doubt he would want to believe that Walt is the mastermind of everything either. I think he'd probably start at Walt == Heisenberg and would want to believe someone else is responsible for things like the prison murders.

 

[Gorillaz]

>:S

 

[sappyday]

Walt being Heisenberg changes nothing. Hank's not going to let one of the most prolific, high-profile meth cooks and a murderer just walk free because he's family. That's just stupid.

It changes a lot. Walt being Heisenberg wouldn't be the same if some stranger was Heisenberg. Hank would arrest that stranger in a heartbeat, maybe even kick his ass for everything he's done. However, since this is Walt, you know his brother-in-law Hank will probably be really conflicted. When Hank saw the book I don't think the first thoughts in his head were "I finally caught him" which is what he would say if it was someone he didn't know, but instead the words in his head will probably be "How can this be?"

Again, what I'm saying is turning in Walt is probably not a good choice for Hank to do. His wife's sister goes to jail, they're children will lose their parents for good, and Hank will never find work in the crime department ever again. So I don't think Hank will turn him in.

He'll probably investigate on his own or deal with it by himself. He won't bring the DEA into it unless Walt forces him to. At this point, turning Walt in won't be enough to bring closure into everything he's struggled so there is a chance that Hank will just want to kill Walt.

Honestly I don't know. This show is so unpredictable and I can scratch my brain all night of all the possibilities that can occur tomorrow.

 

[triplestation]

Evidence, money damaging his credibility. I doubt he would want to believe that Walt is the mastermind of everything either. I think he'd probably start at Walt == Heisenberg and would want to believe someone else is responsible for things like the prison murders.

I don't know I think hank has that sixth sense where he knows exactly how things went down

All his hunches have been accurate

 

[BertramCooper]

Midway through my S5.1 marathon.

$50 is still too much for an Aztec.

 

[Amir0x]

I really doubt Hank will tell the DEA. He'll probably investigate on his own or even just straight up talk to Walt.

Hank is gonna go solo on this. But I really do think he's gonna let Walt go. The reason Walt is someone else in the flashback is because Hank told him to leave, not because he killed someone. Well that's what I think anyways.

Remember, Vince is extremely deliberate with details the show has and their impact.

There is a reason Hank is going to be extremely careful in how he investigates Walt. Remember Gus? Well, George Merkert was the Assistant Special Agent in Charge of the DEA office in Albuquerque. Hank's boss, right? Remember why he lost his job, why Hank got his? George lost his job because of his close relationship with Gus.


Imagine what will happen to Hank if they find out not only is he CLOSE family with the cook of the most potent meth ever to hit the market, but that this same person has been actively paying for his health bills. To which Hank, given his position, never thought it was fishy, simply brought into Walt's gambling excuse.

If the DEA finds out about Hank's complicity with Walt, whether Hank ever knew anything or not, his career is over. Hank needs to prove he is not with Walt by pretty much hand delivering the case to the DEA.

I imagine Hank is going to slowly creep out of that bathroom, smile awkwardly whilst biting his tongue harder than he ever had in his life, before he begins to intricately lay out a place for himself to investigate Walt.

So obv Leaves of Grass isn't the proof Hank needs. What do you guys think Hank will find that confirms everything? I think he might find the storage unit filled with cash.

I think yeah the storage unit will be the first big discovery, but I believe there is enough out there to uncover Walt. For example, once he starts looking into Madrigal again, how soon before he locates Lydia?

 

[Sub_Level]

[cooking intensifies]

 

[sappyday]

Remember, Vince is extremely deliberate with details the show has and their impact.

There is a reason Hank is going to be extremely careful in how he investigates Walt. Remember Gus? Well, George Merkert was the Assistant Special Agent in Charge of the DEA office in Albuquerque. Hank's boss, right? Remember why he lost his job, why Hank got his? George lost his job because of his close relationship with Gus.


Imagine what will happen to Hank if they find out not only is he CLOSE family with the cook of the most potent meth ever to hit the market, but that this same person has been actively paying for his health bills. To which Hank, given his position, never thought it was fishy, simply brought into Walt's gambling excuse.

If the DEA finds out about Hank's complicity with Walt, whether Hank ever knew anything or not, his career is over. Hank needs to prove he is not with Walt by pretty much hand delivering the case to the DEA.

I imagine Hank is going to slowly creep out of that bathroom, smile awkwardly whilst biting his tongue harder than he ever had in his life, before he begins to intricately lay out a place for himself to investigate Walt.


I think yeah the storage unit will be the first big discovery, but I believe there is enough out there to uncover Walt. For example, once he starts looking into Madrigal again, how soon before he locates Lydia?

You have a point there. Still it's gonna be interesting how Hank is gonna handle this situation. This is family he is now dealing with.

 

[triplestation]

I have another feeling that hank will stay shut BUT

He will only tell Marie

Marie will only tell Skylar

Walt will find out that hank knows

Walt will tell Jesse that hank knows

Jesse will enter panic mode

 

[ThanksVision]

I think yeah the storage unit will be the first big discovery, but I believe there is enough out there to uncover Walt. For example, once he starts looking into Madrigal again, how soon before he locates Lydia?

end to episode 1 right here:
Walt's gonna have to close the deal with Lydia and let her know that he's done. He meets her in a cafe. Slips her ricin. They shake hands and end business. Both leave. Cut to Hank watching from his car. fade to credits

 

[Nameless]

Yeah, it's not like he's going to follow Walt around and manage to get some clues since he's done cooking.

Maybe Walt will get caught talking to Lydia.

You know, if he cornered Skyler and pressed her I don't think she'd be able to lie. Once she knows the jig is up I see her doing whatever she feels is best for her and her children, Walt be damned.

Those signed divorce papers.

 

[Mr. Saturn]

I have another feeling that hank will stay shut BUT

He will only tell Marie

Marie will only tell Skylar

Walt will find out that hank knows

Walt will tell Jesse that hank knows

Jesse will enter panic mode

I don't know at this point Hank has to know there's no way Marie would be able to keep a secret like that, so would he really mention anything to her?

 

[VegaNine]

I've read so many Breaking Bad articles over the last few days that I feel like I know the premiere shot-for-shot.

 

[Amir0x]

You know, if he cornered Skyler and pressed her I don't think she'd be able to lie. Once she knows the jig is up I see her doing whatever she feels is best for her and her children, Walt be damned.

Those signed divorce papers.

Once thing I noticed about Skylar, and which the show has highlighted several times, is that she is a damn good liar and she is getting better at it as she goes along. She even surprised Walt with the level of deception she has. Remember, she came up with the gambling lie. With the car wash lie. She came up with the lie to get Ted there. She's an extremely effective liar.

I actually think she'd hold up under pressure from Hank quite well, if she wanted to

the question is: will she want to? Will she finally see Hank's revelation as an opportunity to break free of this life and put Walt behind bars where he deserves?

end to episode 1 right here:
Walt's gonna have to close the deal with Lydia and let her know that he's done. He meets her in a cafe. Slips her ricin. They shake hands and end business. Both leave. Cut to Hank watching from his car. fade to credits

Haha, why would he give it to Lydia? Who is Lydia gonna kill?

Speaking of... this new drug kingpin which Walt sold the blue meth to, do we think he will play a major role in the final eight episodes? He seemed kiiiinda badass. Like, he is what Walt wishes he was.

 

[triplestation]

I now imagine hank goes back to the table and just stares at Walt and Walt realizes he knows and there is no dialogue just tension even the family goes numb except for junior who says what's going on????

Amir0x I can't wait to see wolverine again I know things are gonna get interesting with him he first wanted blue sky off the streets but now he may not wanna settle for less

 

[Black Mamba]

Man, looks like I'm going to miss the premier as well as at least half or more of the episodes live this season. Gonna not be around Sunday nights. Will have to catch up later or the next day.

PS: Skyler kills Jesse. Then she kills junkyard guy. Then she fucks Marie. Then she kills Lydia. Then she kills Gomez while fucking him. Then she kills Walt, brings him back to life, then kills him again.

I await my rewards.

 

[Guess Who]

the question is: will she want to? Will she finally see Hank's revelation as an opportunity to break free of this life and put Walt behind bars where he deserves?

I do think she could possibly be granted immunity for her actions as an accomplice if she helps bring Walt down.

 

[sappyday]

Speaking of... this new drug kingpin which Walt sold the blue meth to, do we think he will play a major role in the final eight episodes? He seemed kiiiinda badass. Like, he is what Walt wishes he was.

His part in the story will get some form of conclusion if we're going by what Vince saying that every loose end will get closed.

I don't think he'll play a big part. Todd will probably play a big part.

I even heard speculation elsewhere that Todd will be the next Heisenberg.

 

[ThanksVision]

Haha, why would he give it to Lydia? Who is Lydia gonna kill?

Speaking of... this new drug kingpin which Walt sold the blue meth to, do we think he will play a major role in the final eight episodes? He seemed kiiiinda badass. Like, he is what Walt wishes he was.

I think of it more as who is Lydia gonna tell? I know she isn't a blabbermouth but if she ever gets brought in for questioning who knows. I think Walt will want to tie up all ends, especially when he finds out that Hank knows.

 

[PHOTOSHOP]

my guess it that Walt will turn into the next Gus Fring at the end

 

[Intheflorsh]

I even heard speculation elsewhere that Todd will be the next Heisenberg.

Yikes, this actually makes a lot of sense. I'm going to have to modify my list.