Breaking Bad - Season 5, Part 2 - The Final Eight Episodes - Sundays on AMC

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Chills.
 
Hank saying "I don't give a shit about family!" is extremely foreboding. Marie is going to end up dead, either on purpose or because of collateral damage. Hank is eventually going to expose Walter, Skyler will get arrested and get life in prison. Walt will avoid getting caught alongside her by chance or by cowardice, he might just bold when the pressure is on and leave at the last second.

Once Walt is outed he'll flee and wallow in defeat. Near the cusp of death he'll decide to beat Hank at his own game, Walter will straight up show up and try to gun down Hank. Hank will be portrayed by news media as a tragic hero, since his wife was killed during the hunt for Walter.

Hank's "cancer man" moment is nailing Walt, he's already corrupted. Hank will destroy his entire family to get Walt, and Walt in turn will take Hank's life to win.
 
IIRC he and Walter were both on board to kill Lydia when they thought she was lying to them.

Because Mike thought she lied to him again. I mean he was willing to let Lydia go but like Mike said she's in it as much as any man is. But Mike thought Lydia betrayed him again which is why he was willing to finally kill her but once he knew she wasn't lying he backed off. Walt was gonna kill her with the ricin when she didn't really do anything to him.
 
Fucking love how they held the shots in that last scene for so long, especially the final shot. It just fills the air with immense amounts of tension and thrust my jaw even closer to the floor.
 
wait

WAIT

what if the spoilers are real and the apology was just to bait people like me into reading them thinking that they wouldn't be spoiled AND THEN THEY GET SPOILED

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I thought that as well, but Rian Johnson said they were "very fake" we'll just have to trust him.
 
Hank saying "I don't give a shit about family!" is extremely foreboding. Marie is going to end up dead, either on purpose or because of collateral damage. Hank is eventually going to expose Walter, Skyler will get arrested and get life in prison. Walt will avoid getting caught alongside her by chance or by cowardice, he might just bold when the pressure is on and leave at the last second.

Once Walt is outed he'll flee and wallow in defeat. Near the cusp of death he'll decide to beat Hank at his own game, Walter will straight up show up and try to gun down Hank. Hank will be portrayed by news media as a tragic hero, since his wife was killed during the hunt for Walter.

Hank's "cancer man" moment is nailing Walt, he's already corrupted. Hank will destroy his entire family to get Walt, and Walt in turn will take Hank's life to win.
Didn't Hank tell Walt "you don't give a shit about family!"
 
I know it's not really a season opener, but that's one of the best season openers I've ever seen lol
 
aaaand we're back to legitimately trying to defend a monster poisoning a child

sorry i decided last year not to debate with future aspiring sociopaths, no offense.

Yeah, I'll defend the trade-off of poisoning Brook to save lives. I'm the kind of person that thinks it's okay to let one person die to save 5 people. I guess that makes me a sociopath. Oh well.
 
walt's gonna finish off what the twins started

hank's asking for it

jesse is a stupid motherfucker right now, get a grip you fucking cunt

Jesse's an emotional wreck what is it that you don't understand right now? Jesse wants out completely. He wants no more of everything he's done. He's ridden with guilt.

Hank is asking to die. He's asking to stop all the horrible shit Walt has done.

I really don't understand how people still see Walt as a badass and don't see how despicable he has become.
 
walt's gonna finish off what the twins started

hank's asking for it

jesse is a stupid motherfucker right now, get a grip you fucking cunt

C'mon now, Walter has commanded and treated Jesse as if Jesse is also going to be dead within a couple of years, aka disposable. Having someone mindfuck you for an entire year straight probably isn't too great on the physique or soul.
 
ChainedMaster said:
Yeah, I'll defend the trade-off of poisoning Brook to save lives. I'm the kind of person that thinks it's okay to let one person die to save 5 people. I guess that makes me a sociopath. Oh well.

You're defending the potential killing of an innocent CHILD (since the poison easily could have killed Brock, it's a very sensitive poison) in order to salvage the lives of a man and his family who put himself in that position in the first place because he's an abhorrent monster devoid of any emotional foundation. That's actually what you're doing. I don't know how to debate something like that, genuinely. It's like the time I got into a debate with someone trying to defend the dancing boys of Aghanistan. There's simply no context for me to understand such insanity.
 
So have a feeling both Hank and Walter are going to go at it so hard with each other that everyone even remotely close to them is going to fall, leaving only Walt and Hank left. They'll then have some kind of face off, Hank dies and what we saw at the beginning is Walt coming back to his old house before he either dies of cancer or kills himself because he lost everything.

That's how I think it's gonna play out, especially after Hank says he doesn't care about family. Hank wants to get Walt now as much as Walt wants to crush everyone in his way.
 
There are so many conflicts this season it's crazy.

Hank v. Walt
Jesse v. Walt
Lydia v. Walt
Cancer v. Walt

Honestly, I think the Lydia conflict is going to get really nuts. She's uber-crazy.
 
It was incredible, not that I'm surprised.

A few thoughts:
-Dat opening scene, holy shit
-Not surprised the cancer is back, kind of assumed so at the end of episode 8
-Jesse throwing the money was great
-Loved how Hank got going on it right away, and damn that scene at the with those two. So good.

Can't wait for the next seven weeks.

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Ha, so they promised they won't advertise Talking Bad in the same manner that they do Talking Dead, but instead of doing it during Breaking Bad, they just do it during Low Winter Sun.
 
Jesse's an emotional wreck what is it that you don't understand right now? Jesse wants out completely. He wants no more of everything he's done. He's ridden with guilt.

Hank is asking to die. He's asking to stop all the horrible shit Walt has done.

I really don't understand how people still see Walt as a badass and don't see how despicable he has become.

he's only that way because walt made him realize that his money is ''blood money'', walt wasn't even serious.. as he said it he only said that to win an argument

jesse damn well knows the money he earned isn't decent so i don't understand why it is now that he has to moan about it, before walt mentioned it jesse was fine

i know walt has done horrible things but i feel that he is the only one seeing straight
 
You're defending the potential killing of an innocent CHILD (since the poison easily could have killed Brock, it's a very sensitive poison) in order to salvage the lives of a man and his family who put himself in that position in the first place because he's an abhorrent monster devoid of any emotional foundation. That's actually what you're doing. I don't know how to debate something like that, genuinely. It's like the time I got into a debate with someone trying to defend the dancing boys of Aghanistan. There's simply no context for me to
understand such insanity.

Don't worry. Gilligan will kill Walt. This whole show is his chance to remedy what David Chase wouldn't let him do.
 
Sorry but Breaking Bad fans have some of the worst cognitive dissonance

Mike: Has killed many people, tried to murder Walt AND Jesse. But he's badass! So he's a hero and a good person!

Walter: Has killed scumbag drug dealers that killed a child. Kills Mike, who would not have flinched if he had killed him and Jesse. That monster! Piece of shit! Get dat cancer!

Walt - "O I'm gonna die, gotta make meth for my cancer o wait lol jk I'm just a piece of shit manipulative power that is on an ego trip"

Mike - "I'm a bad person and I do bad things. All my money actually goes to my family. "

That's the difference.
 
You're defending the potential killing of an innocent CHILD (since the poison easily could have killed Brock, it's a very sensitive poison) in order to salvage the lives of a man and his family who put himself in that position in the first place because he's an abhorrent monster devoid of any emotional foundation. That's actually what you're doing. I don't know how to debate something like that, genuinely. It's like the time I got into a debate with someone trying to defend the dancing boys of Aghanistan. There's simply no context for me to understand such insanity.

His family who put himself in that position? As far as his son and daughter, they're innocent. Just saying.

Walt - "O I'm gonna die, gotta make meth for my cancer o wait lol jk I'm just a piece of shit manipulative power that is on an ego trip"

Mike - "I'm a bad person and I do bad things. All my money actually goes to my family. "

That's the difference.

I'll agree with this. At least Mike has the conscience to know what he does is bad, but as far as their actions go, they're just as bad.
 
Yeah, I'll defend the trade-off of poisoning Brook to save lives. I'm the kind of person that thinks it's okay to let one person die to save 5 people. I guess that makes me a sociopath. Oh well.

You say that as though there was no other option. Walt could of gone to the police. Confess everything like what Skyler told him. But Walt is to proud and badass to do that.
 
C'mon now, Walter has commanded and treated Jesse as if Jesse is also going to be dead within a couple of years, aka disposable. Having someone mindfuck you for an entire year straight probably isn't too great on the physique or soul.

If you look back at the entire series though, Jesse gets a lot of slack from fans that he probably shouldn't. Almost all the pivotal moments in Walt's life that made him go deeper and deeper down criminality, was a result of him having to save Jesse, protect Jesse, or undo a problem that Jesse caused.

The brilliance of the show is that after a certain point, Walt had become so corrupted, it was him making these bad decisions now. Now Jesse's making reckless decisions again, and they might be Walt's downfall. However, now the audience can be more sympathetic towards Jesse's decisions (more so than before), because he feels guilt and remorse for the things he's done.

I guess my point is, I feel sympathetic towards Jesse. But at the same time, I acknowledge that he's also been a big reason that things have gone worse than they should have. Just because Jesse was naive to what he was doing, doesn't excuse his actions.
 
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