Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS Thread 2: Where Pilotwings is apparently Minecraft
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The rumor doesn't actually say that any of the reveals are through daily updates, just that daily updates don't have any visible rhyme or reason, while character reveals do.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
I love SS Zelda. I'd either love her to be SS Zelda with Shiek or just bring in pirate tetra and let's do this!
an SS shiek intrigue's me to no end, what would she look like, or maybe she transforms into impa, which would be so sick
Hot Coldman
Banned
Spirit Tracks Zelda is the best Zelda, hands down. I did like SS Zelda, but her fucking off for most of the game did put a dampener on her character.
That said, I think they should go with Ocarina of Time Zelda. At some point, the whole "Sheik transformation" aspect starts looking really bizarre.
That said, I think they should go with Ocarina of Time Zelda. At some point, the whole "Sheik transformation" aspect starts looking really bizarre.
I just can't see this Zelda fighting. She looks pure and even weak I'd say. Even magic, like TP and OoT Zelda's case won't work imo. The other Zelda felt more lively and ready for action. She's the best Zelda, but she's just not a perfect match for SSB. If one SS character should appear on this, Ghirahim would be the best choice.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
so you are saying...she is
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DICKS AHOY
Banned
If they used different versions of each Zelda rep they could go with SS Zelda, have OoT Sheik and make them separate characters. Competitively-speaking is the transformation aspect used that much strategically?
Just speculation here by the way, don't really mind path they go down for those two. I'd also say in her regular clothes Skyward's Zelda looks just as apt if not moreso for fighting than OoT's Zelda did.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Yeah, I'm thinking it's time they separated those two.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
mew2king uses shiek for fighting, and he transforms into zelda when he;s farther away from the stage than usual to get back to it, its pretty smart but obviously takes alot of timing and measuring distance in your head, he did it alot at EVO
DICKS AHOY
Banned
Oh man, even better than OoT or TP Ganondorf they should go with a slightly redesigned version of the Wind Waker version, if only for how cool he was story-wise compared to the others.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
not oly ghiraheim, but i hope sakurai really takes advantage of demise in someway, if not the ganondorf replacement have him part of the stage or something, though i admit i'd be satisfied if he makes it in as even a trophy
Troubled Bat
Member
The only reason.. To see if Samus goes to Zero Suit Samus through Final Smash!
Hot Coldman
Banned
Neoriceisgood
Member
Fixed.
Eh, i think they could make it work,
Also Moe zelda = Moe sheik and that is something I need to see , good or bad/
Neoriceisgood
Member
Moe Shiek would be my new favourite thing ever.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
thats what im talkin about
Moe zelda is a plit personalty from Moe shiek, Moe zelda looks weak and is ready to fighter, Moe shiek looks like a ninja and no one wants to mess with her but she is shy and just wants to talk. That is their single player thing.
* dat sound of everyone readying their waifu lists*
* dat sound of everyone readying their waifu lists*
Hot Coldman
Banned
Oh hell no.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
ive seen this anime
H-hey!
Hell no. HELL NO! Shiek is suppose to be badass, not moe!
*readies gun*
>:[
Oh right, I forgot he was an unlockable in Brawl. Wonder if he's still one in SSB4 if he's still in it...
I'd be ok with this.
You know you would be the first one, ready for Moe shiek.
When I get my pad from delivery I will draw a moe sheik just for you. Number 1 moe shiek fan.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Moe characters can be badass if you want them to be. Not impossible. Never really cared for Shiek so Sakurai can do whatever he wants with the character.
BassForever
Member
I wonder what's for dinner
I still can't get over how much Link looks like Joan Rivers in this picture.I really don't see it.
Dual-blade wielding
Also, definitely ALBW Young Link. Looks younger than ALTTP Link (and otherwise very similar) and seems to have some unique moves. Then again, I wouldn't mind WW Link with the Wind Waker and Deku Leaf usable.
Valjean Lafitte
Banned
I love SS Zelda. I'd either love her to be SS Zelda with Shiek or just bring in pirate tetra and let's do this!
Tetra was planned for Brawl, so anything is possible.
It depends which game you're talking about.
Melee: Sheik players only transform into Zelda to take advantage of the slight air stall time the transform animation allots you. It gives you enough time to move yourself horizontally to place yourself in a potential better position for recovery with Sheik; the player will transform back into Sheik when they're close enough to the stage to recover with her Up B. Otherwise, if they're too far away from the stage, they'll use Zelda's Up B.
There's no Zelda mains anymore in comp. play afaik (only Zelda to ever really place well, to my knowledge, is the speedrunner CosmoWright)
Brawl: There's three kinds of players for each type of "character". There's Shelda players, who actively play both Zelda and Sheik (these are hugely uncommon nowadays though afaik). Then there's Sheik exclusive players and Zelda exclusive players. As you can guess, Sheik only and Zelda only players never switch to the other character, even for recovery purposes. Why is this? Loading times. Brawl doesn't preload the other character for transformation purposes; it starts to load them as soon as you press Down B to transform. Thus, it takes way too long to transform to use the other character for recovery purposes.
Therefore, there is no real strategy for the Sheik player or the Zelda player to switch to the other character. The way the game loads the character inhibits the idea of switching between the characters, except between stocks. And that's really what Shelda players do I guess.
And funnily enough, that's the main reason why PT doesn't work. Switching takes too long and is only possible to do when the other player is KO'd and is going to respawn.
The only way they could make Zelda/Sheik actually work as intended (switching between them) is to fix the way the game loads the characters... like Melee had it because in Melee it only took less than a second to switch between them. I'm sure this will be... easier to accomplish on better hardware but I'm not holding my breath. If Sakurai thought the loading times for transforming/switching was fine for Brawl then I'm not sure I can really hope for anything lol.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
And Lucario is with Mewtwo showcasing the Mega Evolution and one of the "mascot" as far as that feature is concerned.
Really, it's 2013 and people are still underestimating Lucario.
Cannot be unseen.
How am I being passive aggressive? I just said that because of the reocurring HE'S TOO BIG joke that goes on here anytime somebody even mentions that they would like to se Ridley playable. Thanks for clarifying that for me though, hope that the miiverse comment didn't mean anything, but given that it's Sakurai I can trust he'll disappoint me just like he's been doing so far.
Eh, I like his gameplay mechanic, the whole getting stronger the more beat up he gets. I just don't like the pokemon itself. Besides I think most mega-evolutions look horrible anyway, with Kangaskhan and Mawile being the exceptions.
Never denied that Lucario is also being promoted. Even though he seems to be minor to XY comparatively, he's certainly popular.
I was thinking that because both Mewtwo and Lucario (and Jigs, but that's beside the point) have an updated status, there may not be need (promotionally) of a Gen 6 Pokémon in the roster -- and Mewtwo specifically could represent XY from a story standpoint if he's indeed featured there.
Admittedly though, the roster will be boring if it's stale. To see both Lucario and Red in Smash Bros. 4 will be a big surprise -- and I'm saying this all while Red is my main.
Apparently this is the most disappointing Smash Bros. game and fans are apparently disappointed. Also it's supposed to be "downgrading everything but visuals".
When the heck did Sakurai ever say there's gonna be less characters?
http://gamewise.co/brainwaves/2930/No-cutscenes-or-story-in-Super-Smash-Bros-Wii-U?utm_source=zergnet.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_77645
When the heck did Sakurai ever say there's gonna be less characters?
http://gamewise.co/brainwaves/2930/No-cutscenes-or-story-in-Super-Smash-Bros-Wii-U?utm_source=zergnet.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_77645
Green Mamba
Member
Er, no, not really. The game's data pretty plainly calls the character "Toon Sheik." Assuming it meant Tetra is just that; an assumption. The most parsimonious interpretation is that the character is exactly what was written--Toon Sheik.
BigEvilTurtle
Banned
Too Sheik is Tetra dude
If you consider his last offerings of single player content in these games, " bad and horrid" is more than apt to describe that mode being gone. People enjoyed that thing and now its gone, unless the guy plans to reinvent some avant garde single player thing, which i doubt he is.
BigEvilTurtle
Banned
I and many others would agree that Adventure Mode was more fun than SSE. I'd rather him make design choices that offer more new possibilities anyway.
I'm one of those people that liked the SSE. Mind you, I didn't play many games back then to see a fault with it.
Green Mamba
Member
Based on what? That they serve somewhat similar story roles? If the character was intended to be Tetra I can't help but feel they would have simply called her "Tetra." There's no reason to call her "Toon Sheik" if Tetra was the intended goal to begin with.
There's no way for us to know for sure, so yes, she could have been intended to be Tetra, but the game does not tell us that, and to say that Tetra was intended to be in Brawl is not being entirely truthful to the evidence at hand.
Smash is one of the few games I know where so much work goes into pleasing the fans and yet there will always be someone who'll complain about one little thing and say the game is bad, horrid, or ruined. It's a lot harder to please certain people in this day and age.
I enjoyed PS All-Stars and I'm currently hyping KI and W101. Maybe I'm just easy to please?
BigEvilTurtle
Banned
By that logic, Toon Sheik isn't a character in any Zelda games. Every single Sheik-based character in cel-shaded games have been represented by Tetra. Toon Sheik, by your standards, would be a character that hasn't been invented yet.
Not saying you arent. I am just saying that while it wasnt the best story thing, it exsisting still made it better than alot of other things. Becaue they do exist, one of my gripes with Sf4 and Mahvel 3, lack of single player content. I like that sort of thing. I appciate nether relms because they actually make actual " story mode" putting atleast some type of effort into single player play.
Ok people enjoy thins, " I and many other others would agree that SSE is more frun than Adventure mode" . Also what does that last statement even mean? That just sounds like you are insulting sakurai, he cant do a story mode and add new gameplay exsperiences? * does the older woman Dan from gamegrumps imresion* Your cousin Ed Boon can have the story mode and new gameplay exsperiences.
Green Mamba
Member
I fail to see how this is an issue, considering Sheik does not exist in Twilight Princess either. Giving a Sheik persona to a Zelda that does not have one is not a new idea to Smash.
Eh, i think they could make it work,
Also Moe zelda = Moe sheik and that is something I need to see , good or bad/
Hey, Kirby fights and Peach was even playable on the second SMB. On the other hand, SS Zelda just plays the harp.