Microsoft: "It’s up to us to prove that [Xbox One is] worth $100 more [than PS4]"

xXxDieselxXx said:
Can anyone debunk this floating around? Rumors about the X1's dGPU?



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http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/rumor-xbox-one-will-be-more-powerful-than-ps4.453317631/

http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/xbox-one-dgpu.453311803/
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They would have mentioned it by now. So wrong.
 
Whatever. Microsoft wants your console to be a personal assistant minus wiping your ass and making you food. Idk, the Xbox One is lame. I don't care for any features because you still have to pay to enjoy them and if it's hardware level, it's ultimately a rip off.
 
pixlexic said:
You do know you have to pay for psn on the ps4 to play online now?
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While this is bullshit (paying for online in 2013), it's a far easier pill to swallow. PS+ is one of the best services in video games today with the amount of content they throw at you. Correct me if I'm wrong, but having one PSN+ account on PS4 grants all users on that machine online access, no? I have no idea of that's true, or if Xbone even does that, but there's much more of a filthy feeling about Xbox Live and everything being behind a paygate and still being bathed in ads.
 
"It’s up to us to prove that it’s worth $100 more."
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He's got this right and so far I think they're failing miserably.

$400 Kinect-less SKU in Q1 2014 incoming. I think that's what it will take to get on even footing with PS4 and even then many gamers will still have a bad taste in their mouth from the Xbox One reveal, double downs and eventual backpeddles. MS has their work cut out for them, I don't envy them right now.
 
m0dus said:
And OP, for what it's worth, you misquoted him. I love playing the devils advocate as much as the next guy, but for fuck's sake, people, some of you are making this a full time job.

You had one job. One.

I am disappoint.
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To be fair, he did say "I think so". So he definitely thinks the One is worth more. Not really misquoted.
 
xXxDieselxXx said:
Can anyone debunk this floating around? Rumors about the X1's dGPU?



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http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/rumor-xbox-one-will-be-more-powerful-than-ps4.453317631/

http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/xbox-one-dgpu.453311803/
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No need, it's totally fucking stupid.

On-topic, There going to have a really hard time convincing a lot of the potential user base of the value of Kinect, the first Kinect over promised and under delivered so it's asking a lot for buyers to buy it again. I think Albert made the mistake of saying people want the Best when trying to sell the weaker console though, then again he told us he was on PR duty before he went to PAX so it's to be expected, shame he has to deal with a mess up as large as this.
 
IN&OUT said:
First : I doubt that dollar value doubled in just 7 years, Time value of money doesn't work like this.
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I have no idea what you're talking about.

IN&OUT said:
Second: just to remind you that launch X360 was way behind the times by not having HD port, Wirless and HDD ( some models) while PS3 was offering cutting edge technology at a low price, BD, wirless, standard HDD, HD port and BC compatibility.

PS3 price was a bargin for the time, BD players were priced at $1000 in 2006.
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That's all nice, and like I said, "To subsidise the technology used: yes, it was 'worth' $600."

But did the games it deliver at that point match the significantly cheaper Xbox 360? No.

Were the multi-platform games better on the "cutting edge" PS3? Not at all. At the very best multi-platform games were 1:1 on the PS3. The vast majority of multi-platform titles on the PS3 were laughable compared to equivalent Xbox 360 and PC versions.

When the PS3 finally hit its stride, and all of its multi-platform game growing-pains got sorted out it was a lot cheaper and refined. But at launch it had nothing on the 360 outside of Blu-ray Disc compatibility and the superfluous "cutting-edge technology" you listed.
 
Foffy said:
While this is bullshit (paying for online in 2013), it's a far easier pill to swallow. PSN+ is one of the best services in video games today with the amount of content they throw at you. Correct me if I'm wrong, but having one PSN+ account on PS4 grants all users on that machine online access, no? I have no idea of that's true, or if Xbone even does that, but there's much more of a filthy feeling about Xbox Live and everything being behind a paygate and still being bathed in ads.
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xbox one does do that.. but also psn+ is excellent and is forcing ms to change xbl for the better.
 
Mistwalker said:
He's saying exactly what he's required to say. You can count all the "I think" qualifications and call him uncertain or without confidence, I see it as speaking without the arrogance we're used to seeing from the Microsoft PR engine since the train jumped its tracks.

Albert Penello may be the mouthpiece of a company worthy of derision, but the man himself has come across as genuine enough to me.

Edit: But I will add that if he honestly thinks $100 isn't a deal-breaker, I suspect he's in for a shock.
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Feels like a witch hunt. (Blaming Gamespot here... no flames please)

nib95 said:
You realise the Xbox One is more expensive than the PS3 was at launch in most territories? And it's not even coming with anything as technologically expensive as Cell, Blu ray etc. Both these new consoles are far lower in BoM than the previous gen consoles. The Xbox One is much worse value in that regard.
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Thread should be renamed to "$599 was an awesome price for PS3!"
 
In Aus 360 was $650 and PS3 $899 at lunch now both xb1 and Ps4 is under both, both offer great value here, $50 is nothing. Games are deciding which to get 1st and thats Xbox one, so they already have proved the price difference to me.
 
Team Vernia said:
Feels like a witch hunt. (Blaming Gamespot here... no flames please)



Thread should be renamed to "$599 was an awesome price for PS3!"
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Both the PS3 and Xbox One were/are priced awfully, in other words, too expensive for mass consumer purchase. Having said that, it is a matter of fact that the PS3 cost more to manufacture than the Xbox One. It was also arguably more ahead of the curve technologically speaking, but so was the 360. Comparatively both the PS4 and XO are not that ground breaking performance wise, the XO just less so than the PS4.
 
Chobel said:
Well, that means the original title was not misleading.
Maybe just a little
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Based on that quote, yea I concur. Though "I think it is", isn't the strongest admission in the world lol. Having said that, do we expect him to say otherwise?
 
nib95 said:
$100 more for lesser hardware and performance. No thanks. That and PS Plus, also cheaper than Gold, is order of magnitude better value proposition.
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Pretty much. The money you lose, if you don't care for kinect, is more than the 100 dollar price difference considering that the parts are weaker. That camera is not just the price difference, no matter how much they will try to make it look that way. Then we get to Gold... where all the added value of media services is locked away from those that do spend said $500.
 
If the PS4 came out at the same price, price would not have been an issue. But the competition is releasing a more open, more powerful system for 100 less. It's a pretty big deal.

Nothing MS has shown screams more value since the extra features are all half baked at this point (or locked behind paywalls).

Maybe in a year when all the glitches are ironed out, it would be worth more. I suspect by that time MS will have already dropped price to be parity with PS4 though. Good deal for those of us with patience.
 
m0dus said:
Oh, I won't argue that. But misquoting Panello is hardly necessary. Unlike most of what was flying around in July, his response was measured and diplomatic, so there is no need to hang him for it.

Seriously, saying "It’s up to us to prove that it’s worth $100 more" is a far site away from saying "it's worth more than ps4!"
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Indeed, I think given the price difference and what they have on offer, his replies were well drawn and conservative. He didn't say anything that deserves the level of revulsion he gets here (or should I more accurately say, certain individuals, not this forum board).
 
Kunan said:
Pretty much. The money you lose, if you don't care for kinect, is more than the 100 dollar price difference considering that the parts are weaker. That camera is not just the price difference, no matter how much they will try to make it look that way. Then we get to Gold... where all the added value of media services is locked away from those that do spend said $500.
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yup thats why I said if they would just give us a free year of gold then it would not be so bad.
 
Microsoft: "It’s up to us to prove that [Xbox One is] worth $100 more [than PS4]"
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Oh, and prove why Xbox Live is more expensive and why you give less free games per month while you're at a it...
 
The Xbox One's stance as the most premium console this holiday season won't hold it back, he argued.
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How is a console with a giant external power brick in any way premium? It seems pretty cheaply made and from the looks of it, the PS4 with it's sleek, low-profile design seems like more of a "premium" design.
 
Tmecha said:
In Aus 360 was $650 and PS3 $899 at lunch now both xb1 and Ps4 is under both, both offer great value here, $50 is nothing. Games are deciding which to get 1st and thats Xbox one, so they already have proved the price difference to me.
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No, PS3 was $999.
 
how can you prove that lesser tech is worth more?

yes If you add in the cam and the fifa game then it's much more even (especially with the cam being inferior on the ps) but it's still a weaker console.

it should be 50 less.
 
100$ more, less powerful, an online service that provides less free games and less discounts......come on! Sony needs better competition than this!

I'm speaking as a consumer when I say this. They had so much going in the earlier 360 days it was hard not to be an Xbox fan. We should not stand for incompetent design/management/strategy.
 
Translation: "It is up to us to have ISP subscriptions subsidize at least that $100 price gap so consumers don't notice."
 
Stealth_Cobra said:
Oh, and prove why Xbox Live is more expensive...
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Have you used PSN after using Xbox Live for a period of time? For online multiplayer gaming, they just don't compare. It may change next gen, but this gen PSN was bad. If the $50 a year Sony is now charging improves PSN substantially (looking like it), it's definitely worth it.

Stealth_Cobra said:
...and why you give less free games per month while you're at a it...
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MS needs to keep the games promo going after Dec. for sure. 2 per month without having to stay subscribed in order to keep the games is pretty good I think, but I'm not sure how they'd maintain this with Xbox One.
 
Well it sure as shit ain't gonna be me to prove it is. But at least they're making baby steps towards saying things that aren't completely fucked up.
 
Meanwhile, in the UK, it's a whopping £80 more! What's that converted to dollars, about $130, at a guess? No amount of convincing in the world can change my mind about which platform to opt for. Some things are just a no-brainer.
 
xXxDieselxXx said:
Can anyone debunk this floating around? Rumors about the X1's dGPU?



el02J8c.jpg




http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/rumor-xbox-one-will-be-more-powerful-than-ps4.453317631/

http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/xbox-one-dgpu.453311803/
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It could make the One more powerful than the PS4 but MS hasn't said one thing except their goal wasn't to make a console with superior hardware and they just let everyone say the PS4 is more powerful..

Its unfounded rubbish based on a motherboard image...
 
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