I might be guilty of that last one. I don't think I've ever said that over something insignificant. Once when a woman I worked with told me her husband drove drunk with her kid in the car I said to dump him. He put the child in unnecessary danger, even if she was following them!
I think it was the right thing to say. Also, I think she told you this little story for shock value. Had you two something going on? On your part, hers or both?
So the girl I was supposed to be seeing today basically texted in sick for the date. =\
I don't even really know how to respond to that.
Say you have the same thing, "what a coincidence, right?". Ask her what meds she is taking. Tell her "me too, so weird". No sarcastic tone: she has to be puzzled whether you are saying the truth or not.
Chat a bit (or none at all if you are messaging), tell her that you hope she's going to get back on her feet soon, cut contacts indefinitely. Her true intent will be revealed if: she doesn't answer the meds question (no willingness to put effort in her own charade, time to move on) or she doesn't contact you back (out of guilt for being found out). Otherwise her curiosity will work her up and she will call back.
posting this because i'm so pissed at myself was at a bar with friends girl come up and starting asking us baseball questions (i know nothing about baseball) then started playing with a couple of us talking about her swing. I completely didn't close i'm so pissed right now and my friends weren't any help.
This also seals the question of if i just go to bars solo from now on.
this was probably the worst i did nothing yet, because it was closing time and i could have been like "can you tell me more about baseball" and she would have went for it
hoping this is wake up call that get's me to be aggressive.
I think you misunderstood this girl's intentions. She budged in nonchalantly with an excuse in a group of guys (the baseball topic), and started playing pool "like one of us". She was probably looking for an easy lay. If you had asked her "can you tell me more about baseball" the result would have been the same.
I mean, if a guy moves on a group of girls and start asking questions about the best moisturizer for the skin of his face, it's pretty much clear he has an agenda.
I don't think you didn't make a move out of un-aggressiveness, I think you didn't because you sensed something wasn't right. If you had been really attracted to her you are only thought would have been "I HAVE to tell her how beautiful she is/ I HAVE to tell her how much I like her". If there's one common denominator in a lot of posts here, that's guys making a move on a girl without thinking ahead and just speaking out their minds/hearts without taking into account logistics, personalities at play and consequences.
Thanks for answering. Thought that the texts is so long that everybody just went "didn't read LOL"
- First, I am not foreigner(Meaning I am Finnish), but this is the first time i am trying to pick up girls. I have completely passed school in what comes to girls and have never dated anyone.
Oh, ok. Sorry

Also, I usually give more attention to long posts: more details and more feels. No two girls are the same and the more specific a situation is, they more I learn out of it.
It's also outright impossible to share useful recon when all a guy says is: girl doesn't call back what do I do, girl kissed another guy what do I do, girl doesn't shave what do I do.
-Second, you gave me some good ideas, but i have thought those through already and:
School is too late for me, In work I don't meet people at my age (19) and it is an otherwise hazardous environment (due to not having an exit path, if someone would reject you, it would get pretty awkward). I have been in amateur theatre myself, but people in there get friendzoned pretty easily. One place that i thought up would be Library, because it (contains?) many different people varying from different ages + the changes of meeting an immature "child" are pretty slim.
I wouldn't exactly calling it friendzone (I hate that expression) since to me it looked like a very weird friends with benefits type of situation, but I understand your disinterest. I did theatre in high school, didn't get much out of it.
And good call on not making a move on people at work: people older then you in this thread have failed to be as...proactive

I don't know about libraries: seems to me that guys tend to think only good girls would take the time to study and work on a school project, but even girls who party every single weekend have jobs and majors to attend to and need to keep good results flowing in for their school or their workplace.
But anyway, what I meant suggesting these options was more about growing a group of friends to go out with and then get yourself into clubs, pubs or parties or whatever. Finland looks to me like a very rich country with plenty of young people throwing parties and going out at the first chance they get. Since you have the guts to approach strangers, all you need is a group to blend in and get you in social situations (concerts, birthdays, dinners) and success will come your way fast.
- This gets us to the Third thing: I don't know if this is the case on other countries/people, but I have a hard time measuring the age of other people. I mean a kid of 16 can with a little makeup look easily an 20 year old and likewise. The age distribution of, say 16-22, has so little outerly change in what comes to looks. And i am so fed up with people who are more concerned on their looks that their...rest things. As corny as it sounds, I am more interested in what goes in their heads. Good looks is just a bonus.
This is normal, but usually they reveal themselves for the age that they have as soon as they open their mouths. Since you don't like immature features, these girls won't even pop up on your radar. Don't worry about them.
The best starting points are usually: getting an hairstyle (shows you have personality and individuality) getting new clothes (with a good ratio of comfort, "flashyness" and quality).
This thread will give you useful pointers: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=29818055&postcount=1.
To find your own style think along these lines: if you had a band and you'd be the front man, how would you want to look? grunge, metal, death metal, preppy, whatever it is fallout boys look like, gangsta?
Even if you are not planning on living a full-blown outdoor lifestyle of parties, reinventing your looks is a very powerful way to have your head snap into a different mind-set. If you have ever seen one of those Ink. shows, you've probably witnessed how much getting a tattoo or a piercing can help a lot in either getting closure or getting a new start for a lot of people. Now I'm not suggesting to do exactly that, because it doesn't look very finnish to me
