Tulsa school sends girl home over hair.

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aly

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Good thing her father took her out. As long as her hair was neat and clean there should've been no problem. It's a stupid rule because afros and dreads are not fads. I have a small afro myself when I don't have weave in, so I guess they would've kicked me out too.

I'm in the mindset that no school should be able to decide what a student wears. I'm strictly anti dress code.

I disagree, mostly because some parents apparently think half shirts, sagging pants, and short shorts are appropriate school wear. They aren't.
 

Zoe

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Umm I'm perfectly chill and calling that hairstyle "dreads" is still factually incorrect regardless of what you think of my current disposition. Saying dreads to someone and they may say "my hair isn't dreadful" in return. You also admitted you don't know many folks with dreads so I'm not sure who you're trying to educate here, boo.

The little girl refers to them as "my dreads".
 

addik

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I get it that she's the headmistress of the school?
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We also had a similar case in our high school, which has a strict haircut rule. An exchange student with long hair was registered in the school, but did not want to have his hair cut. He was eventually kicked out of his program.
 

masud

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Umm I'm perfectly chill and calling that hairstyle "dreads" is still factually incorrect regardless of what you think of my current disposition. Saying dreads to someone and they may say "my hair isn't dreadful" in return. You also admitted you don't know many folks with dreads so I'm not sure who you're trying to educate here, boo.

Huh? Dreds is perfectly acceptable. Where are you getting this from? People with dreds even refer to others with dreds as a "dred"
 
Damn, seeing that girl cry made me sad. Her hair is short (for braids or dreads)....that school is a problem for black women. Either straighten your hair or you lose, that isn't fair. Afros a fad? It's fucking natural.

So strange....hopefully they literally don't mean straightened hair or bust. Hopefully kids can do something with their natural hair that doesn't appear to be a typical Afro or braids and still stay in school. Whatever, it's fucking silly.
 

Timedog

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It is. Hope I'm not scaring people everyday with my naturalness :(

This shit should be as illegal as banning certain skin colors. If they don't want braids, on ANYONE, whatever. That's fine. If they don't want afros that's crossing the line into blatant fucking racism, and motherfuck them for it.

Motherfuck Snoop, motherfuck Dre, and motherfuck death row while we're at it.
 
Hindsight is 20/20. My parents sure as hell didn't know what hairstyles were and were not allowed at the schools I attended. It becomes more absurd when the little girl's hairstyle is incredibly common amongst black girls and she completed an entire school year without it being an issue.

If the policy wasn't made readily apparent then the fault is certainly with the school.

For a lot of people public school is nothing more than glorified day care where the kids don't even get textbooks. Not exactly sure you want to pin your argument on that.

I don't. I pin my argument on the fact that sometimes charter schools are garbage and parents should know the difference before buying into the program. As I said, if this were a public school and the parents were stuck working with this system or else, I'd have more sympathy. As things stand, all I can say is that they should have chosen better. They have the luxury of shopping around (presumably), so they should.
 

bishoptl

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It's the same in the states. You can't say "no blacks" in your restaurant just because you're a private business. By providing a public good or service, which includes running a business, you have to abide by the law which protects from discrimination against certain protected classes.



We've already established that the impact is disproportionate, what else do you want to discuss?
You can go start a new thread to discuss the definition of racism if that's your bent.

This isn't the thread for it.
 
For the people confused about the dreadlocks, dreadful, locs discussion:

from the Online Etymology Dictionary
dreadlocks (n.) Look up dreadlocks at Dictionary.com
1960, from dread + locks (see lock (n.2)). The style supposedly based on that of East African warriors. So called from the dread they presumably aroused in beholders, but Rastafarian dread (1974) also has a sense of "fear of the Lord," expressed in part as alienation from contemporary society.

I still use dreads and locs interchangeably because most people I know, my wife included, don't really care. Also I haven't found something more concrete concerning the origin of the term. But the "dreadful" thing isn't just coming out of thin air.
 
Her hair didn't look unkempt and seemed presentable enough to me. I don't see the problem. Well, I do see a problem. It is indeed sad that the beauty of black women's hair can't be embraced, either. While I have found that a more traditional afro seems harder to pull off, I am a huge fan of the frizzy, voluminous look.
 
In other words, if you're black then you can't grow out your hair or else us white folks won't be happy.

White folks with grown-out hair = A-OK and professional

Black folks with grown-out hair that can either be an Afro or maintained as as dreads = Unprofessional and even "thuggish"

I've had something similar happen to me before, although they didn't have the gall to tell me that I had to change my hairstyle.

Yep. Pretty much.
 

Dali

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I wish schools would stop acting like every single student has a severe case of ADD. Kids who lose all concentration because someone has a SLIGHTLY unusual hair style probably shouldn't be in regular classes anyway.
Her hair didn't even look unusual. I was picturing long blown out afro dreads. The little girl's hair was short and the dreads were little tight twists. Looked like she had her hair braided and in a pony tail. I don't know how anyone could see her as unpresentable. If the braids were let go what would her options be then? Have it shaved off or be forced to perm her hair just to meet the schools regulations? Because she'd def have a little fro going at that point.
 

Infinite

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I don't know where you are from, but here in the UK they're dreads. And regardless of where you are, I would imagine that anyone with dreadlocks will not take the wild leap from dreads to dreadful. Is dreads commonly used to mean dreadful wherever you are? Is dreadful itself a commonly used word? I can't see anyone who uses the word dreadful shortening it.

I'm genuinely curious.

I'm from the carribean but I currently live in NYC. They're called locs and yes different cultures have different preferences on what they like it to be called as dreads was born out of a negative Eurocentric view of black hair and black people themselves. Some people are sensitive about the word so respect that
 

DERF

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So it is in the policy no dreds and they put her hair in dreds anyway? They are surprised she got in trouble?

If you don't like the policy don't go to that charter school.
 
Everyone who says the school is in the right should read this post and answer....

Their answer would be "every time I try to touch a black person's hair they get pissy, so of course I don't know!"

So it is in the policy no dreds and they put her hair in dreds anyway? They are surprised she got in trouble?

If you don't like the policy don't go to that charter school.

I'm guessing you didn't bother to read the article or watch the video. She attended the school the previous year without incident, so they either revised the code after she had enrolled, or the administration changed to one that though enforcing idiotic policy was more important than retaining a straight A student.

She also now attends a different school.
 
It is in the dress code. Parents responsibility to read the contract before signing the kids into school.
I personally went to a private school and they had length code for guys who must also be clean shaven. Then for everyone it was no unnatural hair coloring. That was the extent of the hair code. I don't think hair will keep kids from learning or distract them but for the 5 seconds they see the new haircut. Little extreme code
 

Infinite

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It is in the dress code. Parents responsibility to read the contract before signing the kids into school.
I personally went to a private school and they had length code for guys who must also be clean shaven. Then for everyone it was no unnatural hair coloring. That was the extent of the hair code. I don't think hair will keep kids from learning or distract them but for the 5 seconds they see the new haircut. Little extreme code
Here's the thing according to the report her dad said she wore her locs all last year without any problems. Then the longer the locs have been in ones hair the harder it is for you to undo them with out cutting your hair, actually you absolutely must cut them if they been in too long if you want to undo it. Hers been in for a year so I suspect that may be the case. Lastly if you take away locs and Afros the only natural style you have left is braids and a short cut. This rule forces little girls like her to relax their hair to look more white. We're arguing that this fosters self hatred since the way a black girl naturally is is deemed inappropriate.
 
Because your hair is an indicator of how well you learn. Bad schools, bad teachers, bureaucratic nonsense policies. It's no wonder schools worldwide are failing at educating students.
 

aristotle

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After watching the docu "Good Hair" by Chris Rock I completely empathize with this girl's plight. I'm glad her Dad was able to find her a school that accepted her. The school that dismissed her is completely racist.

Anyone who hasn't watched "Good Hair" should definitely check it out. I knew that people of color had some issues with hair, but I had no fucking idea it was as horrible as it actually is. As a whitey I can't understand but I can empathize as much as possible.

Completely irrelevant, but Sherri Moon Zombie's dreds :bow
 

Dash27

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I went to a private catholic high school. No long hair, mohawks, dyed hair etc. My argument that Jesus had long hair was unpersuasive. I thought this was on a whim they picked on this kid but it's in the dress code so why the shock?
 
Seems to me that those rules should be challenged and updated to something more modern, and not skirting the lines of racism.

Rules are rules, but bad rules need to be changed.
 

Salvadora

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I was threatened with this when I was at school.

I was never sent home, but was sent to the principal's office for a stern talking to. It was a Catholic school.
 

aristotle

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I went to a private catholic high school. No long hair, mohawks, dyed hair etc. My argument that Jesus had long hair was unpersuasive. I thought this was on a whim they picked on this kid but it's in the dress code so why the shock?

1. Read the OP.
2. Watch "Good Hair"
3. Come back with an enlightened view of a different race then make a new comment.

I don't mean to come off as snide, but seriously, "black" hair is completely different than "white" hair.
 

Ripclawe

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After watching the docu "Good Hair" by Chris Rock I completely empathize with this girl's plight. I'm glad her Dad was able to find her a school that accepted her. The school that dismissed her is completely racist.

Completely irrelevant, but Sherri Moon Zombie's dreds :bow

yep, this school is filled with racists especially over hair...
Look at the videos

http://www.dbcschool.org/index.php?page=videos

look at the school members and executives. Racist against black people. Come on now, its obvious they are not demanding relaxers for everyone and katt williams hair. They made a rule, dad doesn't like it and finds a different school.

gallery pics and by the videos you have a pretty good idea what sort of hair is allowed.
http://min.us/mbiG59gPL8t8QR/1

and the one blond white girl with the WTF look on her face is hysterical as an aside.
 
It is in the dress code. Parents responsibility to read the contract before signing the kids into school.
I personally went to a private school and they had length code for guys who must also be clean shaven. Then for everyone it was no unnatural hair coloring. That was the extent of the hair code. I don't think hair will keep kids from learning or distract them but for the 5 seconds they see the new haircut. Little extreme code

... You do realize black females hair isn't the same as white females... right? Why should kids have to have their scalp fucked up just because a school doesn't like their hair? Stop supporting this shit.
 

Infinite

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yep, this school is filled with racists especially over hair...
Look at the videos

http://www.dbcschool.org/index.php?page=videos

look at the school members and executives. Racist against black people. Come on now, its obvious they are not demanding relaxers for everyone and katt williams hair. They made a rule, dad doesn't like it and finds a different school.

gallery pics and by the videos you have a pretty good idea what sort of hair is allowed.
http://min.us/mbiG59gPL8t8QR/1

and the one blond white girl with the WTF look on her face is hysterical as an aside.
Intent =! Impact
 

Future

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even the people at Sesame Street realized the plight of curly hair... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enpFde5rgmw

Wow. Only people that understand black hair can understand the need for that vid. Black hair is not only misunderstood, but often demonized where little black girls wish they had white hair.

The fact that a place designed to educate kids can take part in declaring the natural state of black hair, which is often an Afro, and a natural way of handling black hair, dreadlocks, is not worthy of admission is infuriating
 
yep, this school is filled with racists especially over hair...
Look at the videos

http://www.dbcschool.org/index.php?page=videos

look at the school members and executives. Racist against black people. Come on now, its obvious they are not demanding relaxers for everyone and katt williams hair. They made a rule, dad doesn't like it and finds a different school.

gallery pics and by the videos you have a pretty good idea what sort of hair is allowed.
http://min.us/mbiG59gPL8t8QR/1

and the one blond white girl with the WTF look on her face is hysterical as an aside.

This is sad. Why are black education administrators actively making it harder for some black kids over their arbitrary view of what's "faddish?"

The girl is a straight A student. It's not like hairstyles eat into your head and make you ignorant or misbehaved. I had a box fade in elementary school and you better believe that shit was distracting in a school with mostly white children, but we all still handled our scholastic business.
 

Opiate

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The school does not accept dreadlocks or afros. Logically, what options does this leave black girls with? That's a serious question.
 
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