You said it yourself that you have technical questions about the PS4 yet you say the 40% difference in GPU power won't make a difference? You're not a Sony engineer. You don't know what the PS4 is capable of.
Adam Sessler & Albert Penello on the Xbox One (Interview)
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shinobi602
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How is responding to posts and having a discussion= GAF getting to him?
Andronicus
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didn't he say over the next 10 years? Stop this shit...
I just pictured Smokey saying this post..made me laugh.
I never wrote out what i tweeted at him. I actually asked him a valid question, instead he just retweeted it in a cyber-bully kind of way. I've never been a fan of the guy, i mean, he's nothing special in my eyes - i like the GB crew better in that regard - but he definitely became a total douche when he decided to "respond" like that.
ACH1LL3US
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But but... Neogaf is telling me otherwise...
They know precisely what it means, that's why he is furiously spinning.
How should I know? But if Sony reps are in this thread feel free to pm me - here's a free example:
"PS4 is the best console ev4r - xbone is just a glorified tv guide and ryse looks shyte!"
MS was killing private sale ( aka gamer to gamer sales ) and mom and pop stores. At the same time cutting deals with Gamestop to force all consumers through "approved" resellers.
Let's not try and white wash these policies. They were reversed for good reasons.
gaming_noob
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Sesslar went from awesome to villain in such a short time.
I really don't know why some people get so offended when Albert posts. He works for Microsoft. He's not going to really act like Sony has a substantial advantage, even if they do (they do). But that doesn't offend me in the slightest because, again, his tag labels him exactly as his position so you have the context, he responds to people with respect and gives a great deal of detail in his explanations, and, of course, any human being is naturally going to cheer for and perhaps exaggerate the advantages of the system coming from their own company. It doesn't even have to be intentional, it's human nature.
I keep saying this, but Albert is good people. He engages GAF, he gives his company a good image and if you're not a fanboy it's really impossible to get offended by his brand of PR.
More specifically, I just read another interview from Albert where he was pretty harsh about Microsoft's messaging regarding the Xbox One in its original form, and you know it took Sony years before they dropped the arrogance after 2006. I just wish some could call a spade a spade and address his specific points if they disagree with him, but the overreaction and harshness to his behavior from a select few posters just seems inappropriate. He's good people.
I keep saying this, but Albert is good people. He engages GAF, he gives his company a good image and if you're not a fanboy it's really impossible to get offended by his brand of PR.
More specifically, I just read another interview from Albert where he was pretty harsh about Microsoft's messaging regarding the Xbox One in its original form, and you know it took Sony years before they dropped the arrogance after 2006. I just wish some could call a spade a spade and address his specific points if they disagree with him, but the overreaction and harshness to his behavior from a select few posters just seems inappropriate. He's good people.
Uno Venova
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Who cares if steam didn't always have an offline mode for digital, Microsoft has to compete with the features Steam and IOS has now since according to Albert that's who they were looking at for inspiration.
I'm sure they were mostly trying to make publishers happy but if that's the story they want to run with, it has to make sense.
You should look around, you're missing something.
ACH1LL3US
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You think the average Joe gamer is going to tell the difference?? I know you and I will... but from what I can tell Albert is thinking more the mainstream gamers.
Maybe I am reaching here..
Can you state any launch games on either system that is head and shoulders above??
mangochutney
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To make up the difference, though, would that not mean you are suggesting the Xbox is running at 30-40% greater efficiency compared to the PS4?
That seems like a staggering amount, unless this is not the way to look at it.
I'm also not sure how you can 'see' 40% difference.
You guys refers to Albert and anyone else in Microsoft PR who would attempt to claim that the obvious power gap between the GPUs is inconsequential.
CitizenCope
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Oh you're right the thread was just fine before that. HAHAHA!
The Living Tribunal
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which is still more options than the apple app store , google play , steam , impulse , origin and any others i'm forgetting
Post your twitter handle so we can judge for ourselves how much of a child you are.
I have done so in this thread and I've done so in the July thread where he said that the machine that has the weaker specs could conceivable end up more powerful.
I think that's a pretty extraordinary claim and requires elaboration.
Do you mind linking it? Just curious to see.
Pretty much. This is true in every industry. I see it every day, and I myself react the same way. People are passionate about their own products and ideas on which they worked hard and long. That's all.
Has to be Albert, he got the (carnival of stupid) ball rolling ..
R3TRO
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Damn they work fast.
The Living Tribunal
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This thread devolved into a fanboy war long before Albert posted.
3rdamention
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He said "alleged" difference so he basically doesn't believe its 30-40% or much of a difference at all.
BadAss2961
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I'd say GAF clearly got to him.
It's one thing to defend your side, but this is a pretty dumb risk to take because Albert's almost guaranteed to eat these words. I see tons of denial in his future.
I swear for some "Journalists" NeoGAF has to be the main source...
Unless he deleted it or it's per DM (which I doubt), it's not there.
https://twitter.com/AdamSessler/with_replies
That's why I said behavior from a "select few posters", I wasn't casting all of NeoGAF under the net. I don't do GAF hivemind bullshit, that's for people who can't think for themselves so they have to blame their inability to defend their position on GAF having a hivemind.
Yeah, now if he started going "you need to get a 2nd job to get the awesome Xbox One", then I'd be "now wait a minute Albert..." lol
I bet most outlets have someone on here; searching for things to "write" about.
No surprise there.
shinobi602
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Honestly I don't see how that shows GAF got to him at all. His posts always come off as clear and level-headed. He has an opinion on this and he thinks things aren't as black and white as many here are making it out to be. Doesn't really sound passive aggressive at all tbh.
DBZ isn't nonsense. It's serious business. You best watch what you say.
RedAssedApe
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Sometimes with PR less is more.
vpance
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I'd respond the same to anyone posting that kind of stuff on this forum. But few do, because eventually they'd probably be banned for it.
reminds me of the thread where half of IGN showed up ^^
Chobel
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Third party dev are under NDA, they're not supposed to talk about the differences between consoles especially talk to competing console owners. So maybe few of those 3rd party dev will talk to him, but many of them won't reveal such information.
He's reading comments and being defensive about power differences and yield issue rumors. It's getting to him.
Quadraphonic
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Or he can't openly admit that while still wanting to keep his job.
Psycho_Mantis
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Well I am sorry to disappoint him. I play the games I like to regardless of platform.
They are trying their hardest to downplay it but you can't dispute maths.
maabus1999
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can anyone make a Optimus Prime gif kicking a beehive?
Perhaps you are right but I was supporting Albert more for what he said and to ignore the nonsense compared to what he knows to be true based on actually working on the machine and talking with devs as they are making the games on these machines.
I'm sure he is in a much better position to know than even our most respected resident tech guys
NullPointer
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Yeah, he did fine and the Sess didn't toss him softball questions at all.
The power difference argument in a nutshell seems to be that the bone has a more "balanced" design with fewer bottlenecks, so that in the end the practical results will be negligible.
Do I have that right? I get the bottleneck part, but not the balance part so much. Balancing what and what?
lastflowers
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I am employed by MSFT, and I post on this forum. I posted and lurked this forum before I was an employee. Please do not equate 'being paid by X company to post' with 'being paid by X company and posting'. I'd imagine my org would probably not want me to post here.
shinobi602
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That's kind of painting him into a corner prematurely. You can basically call any response that he gives to those two points as "being defensive".
gamechanger87
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Appreciate you coming on and walking through the fire.
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