PS VITA TV announced (~$100, Vita set top box - as in it has no screen - for TVs)

But.........why?
And comes without DS4 on top of everything else, lol.

Probably because it's a cheap entry price to the Vita library, allowing Vita software to have a wider audience and more software sales. More sales could possibly translate to more interest and support from developers. More developers means more games for the platform. We'll see.
 
So...just how many TV service apps work on the vita and hence this? I know of Crunchyroll, and I guess netflix does.
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Forgive my ignorance, but if you own a PS3 or PS4, why would you buy this if you can't use it as it was intended, as a handheld?

so.....

it lets you play psp, psvita, ps1+ps2 classics

if you've got 2 tvs, you don't need to carry your ps4 everytime you want to play but your gaming tv is occupied, no need to pull out the cords everytime...

it also lets you watch tv and video streaming services on its own...so even if someone is using the ps4 for netflix you can go ahead and watch on hulu or crackle on this thing...

and if you buy this + ps4 it will come out at the same price as an xbone?

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They're still selling the HW and even rolling out a new model so I don't think that helps them.

As I said, Sony doesn't care how much hardware is sold, they care how many people own hardware that can play their games. Hardware is not the money maker. Sony doesn't care if you buy the games from a portable Vita, or a Vita TV. They make money from you owning either one, and buying games/accessories for them.
 
Don't go crazy imagining long distance scenarios people. Playing over the net will have gross lag and like the Wii U distance from your router or PS4 itself is going to matter. Also no 1080p for PS4 games and streaming movies is a big downside for this thing. Really big downside. Not for me, but when compared with the other streaming devices tech people will not be impressed.
 
Forgive my ignorance, but if you own a PS3 or PS4, why would you buy this if you can't use it as it was intended, as a handheld?
Cause I don't want to spend 200 bucks on a handheld with a small screen. I game almost 100% at home. This is perfect for me.
 
I kinda wish this played UMDs and support other forms of memory too... As it is I'm not too interested at regular price.
 
This is the real $100 indie game console and then some. Sony was really smart about this. Wondering what the USB port is for though. I wonder if they might allow you to use an external hard drive or something in the future.
 
This is extremely interesting to me.
I love handheld games but hate playing on a handheld. With this I can play all those PSP and Vita games I missed out on.
 
But seriously guys, how the hell this works with touchscreen and touchpad enabled games?

With a PS4 controller? It'll just support less games with a DS3.

I think making this compatible with the dualshock 3 is a great idea though, because everyone must have one of those around in their house.
 
As a streaming device, it's fine, but as a games console, it doesn't make much sense. If you're not DEEP into the Sony echo system and want to play games on your TV, the entry level for this is the $150 bundle with the DS3. Why the fuck would anyone buy that over a $199 PS3?
 
A media streaming set top box? In the US?

Nah. Never.

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This thing was made for the west.

yes but the markets are different. The Vita still has life in Japan, and it's games are more geared towards what Japanese audiences want. "Play Vita games on your TV" isn't exactly a huge seller in North America. Maybe they change the name and just call it Playstation TV? Afterall it's all about getting people into the ecosystem of PSN.
 
Forgive my ignorance, but if you own a PS3 or PS4, why would you buy this if you can't use it as it was intended, as a handheld?

If you have PS4 it will be used as extender, aka you play to your 2nd TV in your household without ever moving PS4.

Also it plays as media player, PS vita machine at the same time, and it can be used as your local media streaming device too.
 
This is seriously a confusing product. What incentive do developers have now to develop for the vita? Almost may as well just make your game ps3/4.

Cool product if you want to play persona though.
 
Forgive my ignorance, but if you own a PS3 or PS4, why would you buy this if you can't use it as it was intended, as a handheld?

You would be able to stream your console games to other rooms
or I think wifi enabled? So you'd probably be able to take it anywhere with Internet plug in and play

This is seriously a confusing product. What incentive do developers have now to develop for the vita? Almost may as well just make your game ps3/4.

WTf are you talking about.
 
This could be a huge deal here in the West. Portable gaming isn't as popular here so the vita will now have the on the go model for people who like the portability and the cheap home console model for people who are interested in the games but hold back because its on a portable.

The fact that either option lets you stream ps4 games. Could be a huge hit at the right price. Not convinced its as much of a selling point in Japan though seeing as the are crazy for portables.

For some reason the first couple sentences remind me of the famous "Square just shot themselves in the foot" post.
 
i can't imagine they'd not release this WW, strange how some of you seem to think it'd be japanese only

This could be huge for Japan, where traditional consoles are not what they used to be (and really bad for the Wii U)

how so? at this point, with 3rd party development dying out, its clear WU will live & breath on first party software, which is their standard exclusive stuff. im not seeing how this affects that

It'll drive up software sales, which is all that really matters, but it doesn't inspire much confidence in Sony's devotion to handheld gaming hardware both now and going into the future.

fair, but with the sales they've had, they had to try something, and this was a pretty interesting angle to take (vs say, dumping $ into AAA vita titles with a new platform on deck that needs that support)
 
lack of touch compatibility is a little worrying. if there's no solution to that for the vita-tv then i guess developers flat out won't use the touchscreen function for fear of losing potential sales from vita-tv owners.

then again if they have ds4 compatibility then it would all work out

It's covered via a future software update.

PlayStation®4 (PS4TM) remote play
As with PS Vita, PS Vita TV will also support PS4TM remote play and Wireless Controller (DUALSHOCK®4) through future system software update*4. This will allow users to enjoy most of the PS4TM games on PS Vita TV as if they are playing it on the PS4TM system.
 
The output resolution on this thing will be crucial. Not sure how ifeel about everything being 540p or less. Wonder if the os and video services will support 720/1080.

480p, 720p, 1080i according to the spec sheet. Weird that 1080p isn't included for media stuff, at least.
 
This could be huge for Japan, where traditional consoles are not what they used to be (and really bad for the Wii U), but are we sure this will ever see the light of day outside of Japan?
Andrew House announcing it and not the dude from SCEJA makes me believe it's releasing worldwide.
 
So, are there two SKUs? One with the Dual Shock 3, and one without? I'm looking at page 4 and 5 of this press release and that's how I'm reading it. If that's the case and is also true for the eventual US release, I'll just buy the SKU without the DS3 and use my DS4.
 
This could be huge for Japan, where traditional consoles are not what they used to be (and really bad for the Wii U), but are we sure this will ever see the light of day outside of Japan?

What? This is potentially huge for markets outside Japan.

A 99$ console that plays all your TV stuff, media apps, streaming ( basically an Apple TV ), but also plays PSOne, PSP and PSVita games?

It's the Ouya + AppleTV killer combined.
 
yes but the markets are different. The Vita still has life in Japan, and it's games are more geared towards what Japanese audiences want. "Play Vita games on your TV" isn't exactly a huge seller in North America. Maybe they change the name and just call it Playstation TV? Afterall it's all about getting people into the ecosystem of PSN.

But that's just it; for the "regular" people, it's a $100 set top box that will stream netflix and hulu and whatever, while also offering PSX/PSP/PSV games and acting as a port for a second TV to access the PS4.
 
PS4 streaming is brilliant and I will get one just to be able to play my PS4 games on other TV's in the house. A bit of a missed opportunity to not allow DS4 usage for PS1/PSP/PSVita games though.

The DS4 is used in the video, it's probably not in the budget bundle because it's $60 on it's own.

So you have options here:

vita tv = $100

DS4 = $60

vita tv + DS3 + 8GB = $150
 
To all of you thinking about the touch screen stuff:

What if you could connect PS Vita TV with your PS4 camera? Problem solved
 
Forgive my ignorance, but if you own a PS3 or PS4, why would you buy this if you can't use it as it was intended, as a handheld?

PS4 won't play PS One, PSP or PS Vita games. Also, you can use this to play those games and a PS4 on a second TV in a different room. Think of it as a new console that you can hook up to a TV that will let you play video, music, Netflix, Hulu, PS One, PSP, PS Vita, indie games, PS4 via remote play, and down the road PS3 through Gaikai. All that for $99.
 
yes but the markets are different. The Vita still has life in Japan, and it's games are more geared towards what Japanese audiences want. "Play Vita games on your TV" isn't exactly a huge seller in North America. Maybe they change the name and just call it Playstation TV? Afterall it's all about getting people into the ecosystem of PSN.
Yeah, I can see a name change for NA.
 
i don't think this will be that popular in the united states. however, i think it could become the lead console in japan. it's extremely inexpensive, has a library japanese gamers care about (yakuza's even coming to the thing), and has been building a bit of steam over the last year or so. i could see some sort of weird competition between the ps4 and vita in japan.
 
So uh... Uncharted GA, Tearaway, Murasaki Baby and so on so forth are a no-go. Guess I still gotta mod my Vita for capture then.

just wait till it's out. considering they're pushing streaming abilities and video sharing, I guess you can use your vita to play those touch-specific games and stream it over vita tv to twitch and the likes.

that would be SO sweet!
 
So, let me get this straight.

I own a PS4.

I use the Vita TV to play my PS4 on any TV in my house (or possibly anywhere with internet), regardless of whether the console is physically connected to them.

I can play any PSP or Vita title on my big screen in 720p, using a DS3 or DS4 as the input device. But I don't need to actually have a Vita or PSP to do so, but I do need to already own the games.

The remote play feature showcased in the video, where the girl played Knack on her Vita at school has nothing to do with Vita TV, that's a core feature of the PS4/Vita architecture.

Am I missing anything?
 
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