Welp, looks like I will be buying this thing then. Hope games won't look too terrible blown up on the TV. Although with some of the jaggies already present on the Vita versions of some games... well, we'll see.
PS VITA TV announced (~$100, Vita set top box - as in it has no screen - for TVs)
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Welp, looks like I will be buying this thing then. Hope games won't look too terrible blown up on the TV. Although with some of the jaggies already present on the Vita versions of some games... well, we'll see.
Not really. Vita isn't selling well so they are releasing this. And that's fine. It looks cool and obviously has a market. 3DS is selling really well so they don't 'have' to do much.
His premise is also flawed. The vita tv contains vita hardware. The vita is not backwards compatible with every und release.
Now you are just talking silly.
All three companies are back-pedaling, shifting, adapting. This is the biggest concession saying that PSP brand is over and they are transforming it.
It is a brilliant move for them. And does kinda breath a couple extra years into the Vita moribund Vita line. I love the idea of having a bonafide micro-console for all my PSN stuff.
Won't play gyro or touch heavy games. Unfortunatelythose include uncharted, gravity rush, little big planet, wipeout and Tearaway.
For me there is not a lot left that I MUST play in the vita library that justifies this.
Hydrargyrus
Member
My god, this device is awesome!
One question, does it have internal memory or do you have to buy memory cards (Vita format?)??
One question, does it have internal memory or do you have to buy memory cards (Vita format?)??
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
UMD is dead as far as Sony is concerned. Some new PSP games are still getting UMD releases but device support is finished. Plus adding support for it during both the development of the device plus the manufacturing costs likely wouldn't be worth it since so few people would probably care.
This doesn't hurt either, from their standpoint.
Horse Armour
Member
Does this mean that future Vita titles will be created with overscan friendly graphics?
Oh, okay then. I wish the OP mentioned that it's not an official price.
But still, I'm pretty sure it'll hit the US if the trailer is in English.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Um, how about the SYSTEM'S price? I'm totally on board for the Vita TV because it's $100 cheaper than the Vita and I don't play games outside my house anyway.
Impeccable
Member
This (if it works great) could kill any need I have for a new Xbox at all. I normally buy a second console for my basement living room but if this streams my PS4 perfectly down there I'll have no need to spend all that money on a whole new console, heh.
This is huge (for me).
This is huge (for me).
michaelius
Banned
Gyro shouldn't be a problem - DS3 has sisaxis controls in it
No. They will probably add a screen-adjustment feature to the Vita OS for the Vita TV, just like how Wii U handles overscan.
Senor Kami
Banned
Thread is crazy long and I'm on a subway with spotty access so I can't read it all. Is this confirmed to work without a Vita at all? Does it have native apps like Netflix, Hulu, etc? Personally, I'd rather spend money on an official emulator for PS3/4 but this could be cool.
Huge for me too... roughly same reasons.
Actually, and more realistically, this is the contrast between a company with a dominant handheld and one who is looking to try to do anything it can to salvage one.
Flip the script for the opposite in terms of consoles.
It seems to be somewhat of a problem. The official compatibility list doesn't include the aforementioned games.
After seeing that many potential psvita titles can't be played on the psvita tv due to the absence of a touch screen, this console is a big NO for me. Most of the titles I want to try there need a touch screen in order to be played... I'd rather buy a normal psvita instead.
Since Sony Tvs sell so well?
The 3DS isn't the problem but the Wii U is.
This is the device that the Wii U should have been.
It's obvious it's not an official price because official prices don't use the ~ symbol in them.
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
Stop thinking of the Vita as a console and instead think of it as a platform or an operating system like iOS.
Some people have no time for handheld gaming. Or they just prefer the big screen and couch experience. Or they want to play Vita games but the price of entry (the console) is too steep for them. Sony just offered them a way into the Vita with a very inexpensive box that works with the DS3 controller they probably already have, that synergises with the PS4, and lets them use the streaming/on demand services they already subscribe to.
It gives people more options to consume Vita/Sony content, and that's a win-win for both consumers (who can choose their preferred way of gaming/accessing content) and Sony (who can get the Vita platform into more hands and sell more software as a result).
kubricks
Member
I always though there is a market for a mid-tier PS console. Not all people need ps4 level of graphics and is happy to stay where psp/ps1/ps2 is at, the relatively long cycle of them seems to support this idea. Launching a vita based console fits the bill exactly, it's down to how Sony wants to market it. If they make it a console emphasis on sub-ps2 graphics and psn/ps classic machine I see success
I don't think it will, infact if this thing get popular it will only give the vita a brighter future.
I don't think it will, infact if this thing get popular it will only give the vita a brighter future.
So I'm a little confused with Sony's strategy here, can someone sort me out?
This Vita TV plays Vita games, psp games, and PSN classics. It's basically a Vita for those who want Vita games but don't play games on the go, or a cheap console for those who don't want a PS4. Something like that.
Then the PS4 is their premium console.
Then there is the new PSVita model announced today which doesn't bring about any substantial changes in terms of new features or design but still costs the same as a 1st gen Vita.
Am I correct in this?
This Vita TV plays Vita games, psp games, and PSN classics. It's basically a Vita for those who want Vita games but don't play games on the go, or a cheap console for those who don't want a PS4. Something like that.
Then the PS4 is their premium console.
Then there is the new PSVita model announced today which doesn't bring about any substantial changes in terms of new features or design but still costs the same as a 1st gen Vita.
Am I correct in this?
DarkLordMalik
Member
Same here. As a VITA owner, this is far more exciting to me than a new game announcement.
Guess I still just buy this and hope they patch some kind of Dualshock 4 support or something to make those games work.. I can't justify buying Vita since I don't really have use for the portability but in the other hand I really want to play Uncharted GA, Gravity Rush and specifically Tearaway..
But there is a gyro in the DS3 (remember sixaxis ?), why not use it ?
And later next year when it supports DS4, it will have the touchpad. Vita TV + DS4 could be a full featured Vita. Did they explicitly said they won't support that or is everybody just assuming ?
mangochutney
Member
They have Android apps for them, yep. I don't own an iOS device so can't comment.
Those games aren't on the list because of no touch controls, gyro has nothing to do with them not working. Also, even if touch worked with a DS4 Uncharted still wouldn't work because of the lack of a camera.
shikamaroooo
Member
Can't wait for Gaikai on the Vita.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Weird that they didn't pair it with a PS4 controller and some cursor solution to all Vita touch features (but even then you'd have to hold a trigger to activate BACK TOUCH MODE).
Maybe its a cost issue and they wanted this to be total budgetsville.
Maybe its a cost issue and they wanted this to be total budgetsville.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
I am mainly referring to the Wii U but it extends to the 3DS as well.
Though the 3DS is easily beating the Vita it's not the tour de force of success it should be and Nintendo's way of dealing with it and Sony's clearly show two completely different viewpoints of gamers needs.
Sony gets it.
Nintendo does not.
The VitaTV effectively is a steambox for your tv with all the indie support it is getting, extends your PS4 capabilities and allows you to play the Vita's more console esque titles on a big screen.
It is brilliant.
I'd figure a wireless controller would have issues if the TVs were far enough apart. This would ensure that not being an issue.
Yeah, that portability aspect is so overrated.
They don't want to manufacture a bunch of drives for a dead disc format. Would push up the cost of the device for the benefit of a fairly tiny audience. Though I can understand the sentiment, but to me that just reminds me of how silly it was for Sony to push the UMD format to begin with.
MisterSamMan
Member
Fantastic idea.
Cool, I could see myself switching to their services then.
startyourengine
Member
shit, wish came true, killzone mercenary on a ds3 or ds4, yes!
Hydrargyrus
Member
1GB is not enough, I supose it would admit some kind of memory cards, probably Vita memory cards...
Hopefully. I want to play all Vita games from now on using this and a control pad
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
That's what's great about this, it gives people options, and both of them end with someone buying a Vita (and more importantly Vita software) in whichever form you want to call it.
Interceptor
Banned
Am I still on the same planet?
The Vita wasn't selling because it needed games tailored to a mobile market and not the gimped down experiences from home consoles it was getting.
And now we get a home console which enables you to play the gimped down versions... at home again. (minus the touch controls) and people are cheering? I don't get it. I just don't understand the purpose of this thing.
The Vita wasn't selling because it needed games tailored to a mobile market and not the gimped down experiences from home consoles it was getting.
And now we get a home console which enables you to play the gimped down versions... at home again. (minus the touch controls) and people are cheering? I don't get it. I just don't understand the purpose of this thing.
I'd say they are doing one hell of a job broadening the market, thereby making the platform a lot more interesting for developers.