PS VITA TV announced (~$100, Vita set top box - as in it has no screen - for TVs)
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Zoe
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- So far they've mainly only announced Japanese partners.
- WTF, do you really want a repeat of the UMD debacle?
Yes, to all questions. Although, list of supported games is not covering everything for now.
KaptinKeezey
Banned
When ps4 comes out this problem will be solved. You can just use a dual shock 4.
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kittens
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That'd be cool, but I only have one TV, and I don't want to buy two Vita TVs, lol.
Yeah, but that doesn't necessarily rule out Vita games having local MP, too... Though the chance is probably slim.
I don't know if some of these "confused" people are trolling or actually can't read
It's a Vita on your TV.
Vita can remote play ps4 on your TV, this can too
Uses Vita hardware = vita memory and vita game carts
You can actually use your vita as a controller
DS3 and DS4 support.
It's a Vita on your TV.
Vita can remote play ps4 on your TV, this can too
Uses Vita hardware = vita memory and vita game carts
You can actually use your vita as a controller
DS3 and DS4 support.
Callibretto
Member
I don't see what's wrong with letting them get dualshock 4 early. I think it's all to chase that $100 price point
some good points, I'll take them one by one.
Well by including just 1gb of memory it keeps the costs very low, If the design is for current Vita owners they can just put in their own memory card anyway, if it's for media capabilities they don't need one. The 1gb is for playing from the cards and just saving on the VitaTV, It's not really designed for DD games without a memory card, even with 8gb it would not be suitable for a DD model.
Completely Agree, hopefully they will release a cheap remote for this or pack it in when it gets a western release, I think in japan this is more gaming than media but in western markets it will be more media than gaming.
It most likely will be. The DS3 is being used because this is released 3 months before the PS4 in Japan, for a western release it will likely be DS4 and also DS4 in future Japan bundles, DS4 has already been confirmed as available in a system update, likely alongside PS4 release.
I'm really glad you have no say in Sony's plans. Wait a year and what, have Apple and Google and maybe even MS beat them to the punch and be branded as "copying" competitors again?
This just makes the XBONE look worst because of the price. This little gadget literally achieves many things for Sony.
Also, with PS Plus, if you only plan getting Vita games, you can use the cloud to store saves.
And lose a good portion of their already miniscule Vita userbase? Nope. I'm not rebuying any of my physical games.
That plan certainly didn't work out for the PSP Go.
They could always call it Playstation TV outside of Japan
I'm not sure if companies do that anymore but I remember games used to be called different things in certain regions
Vita does not have "couch coop" experiences on it. PS1 was a console with 2 controller ports, and tons of 1 screen coop games.
lemmykoopa
Junior Member
People who are excited for this so they are going to be able to play PSX and PSP games on their TV. Could you tell me which games you are planning to play? I don't understand. Next gen is coming in 2 months and you are all excited to be able to play old PSX games and mediocre PSP games that have low production values (which is fine, because they are handheld games). Oh and playing VITA games on the big screen, what games exactly? BTW I have a Vita.
djSyndrome
Member
here. we. go.
It was done to keep costs down, and as it matches what the Vita 2k is carrying one can assume it's the exact same chipset.
I know for a fact that you misuse the word fact. Also: if non-gamers were to buy this for streaming only over a Roku (which is half the price and doesn't need the storage you think it should have), then they need to have their heads examined. The streaming is a bonus; the core of this thing is to play Vita (and it's attendant PSP and PS1) games. That's why it's called the Vita TV.
Many Japanese households already have DS3's lying around. See also: consoles not coming with power adapters.
Streaming PS3 games would cannibalize PS4 sales. Why would they do this?
So basically you want it to be a PS4 without the ability to play PSP and Vita games.
There are plenty of Japanese services on board (see http://www.jp.playstation.com/psvitatv/video/ for a list). As Sony already has agreements with Netflix, Hulu, CrunchyRoll, etc. in the US, adding them to the Vita TV would be trivial.
This is designed to extend the Vita brand. It's in the fucking name. If you have a physical copy of a game (which many Japanese do), would you really buy a second digital copy just to play it on a television?
And in a year they might just offer all that. All we've seen so far is a Japanese launch bundle where they're likely experimenting with the concept and focused on keeping price down.
Personally I'm betting that they'll forgo the remote and instead offer a smartphone app like they've said the PS4 will have. That could be developed as a cross compatible app as we speak in fact, and it saves Sony on hardware costs while letting people control more things with their phone.
This is almost surely the case. Notice how the Vita 2k suddenly includes microUSB and the VitaTV has USB on it as well? Likely a core chipset addition. They're basically the same mobo with ethernet and upscaler added on the back end.
It's why the west is getting this later IMO, release this at the same time as PS4 and the marketing message begins to look as fragmented as an Xboner
I was thinking of the possibility of using existing Remote Play tech on the PS3 and just patch something in to allow all PS3 games to Remote Play into the Vita or Vita TV. Would be nice, wouldn't it?
flatearthpandas
Member
In regards to all the praise and amazement at this being the "Ouya killer" or an "Apple TV" competitor... what ther fuck?
Even the most rabid fanbase on the planet has not turned the Apple TV into a hot ticket item. What's the point of competing with things no one cares about?
Most people can already stream movies and TV to their TVs at sub 1080p. People who care about gaming can buy the majority of Vita's titles on other devices. PS4 streaming to another TV and the limited amount of Vita exclusives (limited even more by compatability) are the only benefits I can see. A TV out would have been much better for one and Gaikai had better fucking deliver to make the other worthwhile. Promo video is great, but it is not proof of shit.
I am very interested to see Gaikai truly up and running. It needs to deliver if anyone outside of Vita fans is ever going to care about it.
Even the most rabid fanbase on the planet has not turned the Apple TV into a hot ticket item. What's the point of competing with things no one cares about?
Most people can already stream movies and TV to their TVs at sub 1080p. People who care about gaming can buy the majority of Vita's titles on other devices. PS4 streaming to another TV and the limited amount of Vita exclusives (limited even more by compatability) are the only benefits I can see. A TV out would have been much better for one and Gaikai had better fucking deliver to make the other worthwhile. Promo video is great, but it is not proof of shit.
I am very interested to see Gaikai truly up and running. It needs to deliver if anyone outside of Vita fans is ever going to care about it.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
That's what I'm going to tell my friend who has seen the games I've told him about but doesn't want a portable.
I think that's probably the plan in the future.
hokagespit
Member
wow what. what. i just woke up and shit myself.
awesome
awesome
Marty Chinn
Member
Nah, the digital only aspect was terrible as well. You were paying more for less games and no digital rights to them. Terrible proposition to an end user. It would almost be like the PS Vita TV not allowing Vita game cards to work and going digital only, but even that wasn't as bad as the PSP Go. The PSP Go had so many problems about it and it wasn't just how Sony marketed it.
Which is a vita... If anything any sales this makes counts as a vita sale. Think of it as a redesign, only this one isn't portable. This will give plenty of confidence to 3rd parties.
lostsouldier
Banned
If Sony prices this @ $129.99 w/Controller and Memory Card, it'll be the hottest item this Holiday Season.
I said it in an earlier post. Ill buy 5 Vita TVs, at least!
PS2 compatibility HAS to happen now, right? I would think Sony would want as much cross-platform content on their store as possible. I need dat Fire Pro Returns on my Vita TV..
I said it in an earlier post. Ill buy 5 Vita TVs, at least!
PS2 compatibility HAS to happen now, right? I would think Sony would want as much cross-platform content on their store as possible. I need dat Fire Pro Returns on my Vita TV..
H_Prestige
Banned
I think this could dominate the low end console market. That's a pretty huge market.
Yeah, bit of a head scratch. iTunes is best in class for music and movies and Ouya is best in class for piracy.
I think Sony is doing well to position this as more of a gaming companion but it does have some benefits for video/music.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
Wait, can this connect to a PS4 console? I read earlier about being able to beam PS4 content to a different TV via Remote Play or something like that.
Yep, remote play PS4 to a ps vita tv and play games over wifi with your dualshock4.
Wow, didn't expect to get home to this news.
It's a good idea, as a product by itself it's pretty weird but I think they are using it as a way of leveraging more software. I suspect indy developers might be more tempted to develop for the platform if they know they can get their games on the big screen. And for people who don't want to fork over full price when the system might only have a couple of games they want to buy, this could be a cheap alternative with it's own little niceties.
It's a good idea, as a product by itself it's pretty weird but I think they are using it as a way of leveraging more software. I suspect indy developers might be more tempted to develop for the platform if they know they can get their games on the big screen. And for people who don't want to fork over full price when the system might only have a couple of games they want to buy, this could be a cheap alternative with it's own little niceties.
Inferno313
Banned
So if I own a vita how seamless will using my saves back and forth be? Can I just pull my memory card out of my vita and put it in this? I also have PS+ so I guess the cloud saves will work too, huh?
H_Prestige
Banned
It does remote play just like a regular Vita.
This is a Vita without the screen, so ALL of the remote play stuff the vita can do, this can too
Can a mod edit the title so we stop getting these questions or something
It no longer let's me,I assume it blocks non vita owners now
What? Sony already confirmed PS3 gaikai streaming to the Vita.... so why would they not have it to the vita.... TV? It should be the exact same chipset. They already said once it comes out on the PS4 -> PS3/VITA that it may come out on other platforms...
If you use a cart from the vita you can just take it out and plug it in the vita TV. You would also have to transfer your save.... but if you have PS+ you should be able to use PS+ to transfer your save between the two.
shinobi602
Member
So just to be sure as I'm a little confused, I can play Vita games on this thing on my TV right? That's the only question I have. It's basically a Vita console?
lostsouldier
Banned
Apple TV flatout sucks, that's why it isn't a hot ticket item. Roku kicks Apple TVs ass all over the place, and that's why just about every relative of mine under 60 has one now. Apple TV is only good for iTunes, as the media apps selection is very small (Walled Garden!) and gaming is nonexistent.
SwiftDeath
Member
Yep this is a big one
If this sells well it may cannibalize the sales of the portable vita but it's still vita sales
If it sells well, 3rd parties will be far more interested in developing for vita
Cloud would be frictionless so to speak but for physical pulling and insertion all the hardware is in place for it.