PS VITA TV announced (~$100, Vita set top box - as in it has no screen - for TVs)

Darknight said:
So when you stream KZ:SF which is 1080p, the max you can output is 720p/1080i. Doesnt that kinda suck?
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It's not optimal, but it's a $300 savings compared to buying a second PS4. And you get access to most of the massive library available for PSP and Vita.

I think the Vita TV will be a big hit with PS+ subscribers who don't play on handhelds. With one $99 purchase they'll gain access to the massive backlog of free Vita and PSP games they've been banking over the years. Plus PS4 remote play.

Darknight said:
Also Im not sure what to think of this device. If they port PLEX to PSN, ill buy it. Streaming media is a must for these devices.
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Yeah, this needs to happen. Does anyone know if the Vita currently supports any release of PS3 Media Server? I've never even considered using the device for streaming until now.
 
Megidolaon said:
So if I buy this thing and play FFX/X-2 Vita versions on it on the TV, is it going to be any different than playing those games on the PS3? Will the Vita versions have lower resolution?

I know it's probably too early to know. Damn, so many questions!
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Dude, the PS3 version will render at 1980x1080. What do you think?
 
might get, it's already better then my apple tv since it can play games. Now are there any vita games worth playing? Why can't nintendo make a Nintendo 2D TV god damn it
 
nampad said:
I knew it since House mentioned a living room Vita experience in February! Somehow I had a feeling it would be announced today, I should get a lottery ticket :)

Sony needed a cheaper TV box, this makes sense. Hope this means we will get better Vita support from streaming services and MKV support.


Strange that they include the DS3. It doesn't have any touch interface, how will they emulate the touchscreen and rear touch?

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Ugh...so stupid. Why do they have to half-ass this aagain? For sure, many games will be patched for PS Vita TV. Hope this doesn't mean we developers won't try to inclusde the Vita inputs anymore. I like the gimmicks and used in a clever way they can offer a new experience.
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Well what if Sony allows touch screen input from smartphones.

Also they can have a new controller in the same shape and button layout, but in the middle space that has the home button, they have a large space there to hold people's phone in landscape position. Fits different phones and sizes. And similar to Smartglass, can be used with games without damage.
 
Did I mention Rouge Legacy, Minecraft, Helldivers, Wasteland Kings, Borderlands 2, Samurai Gunn, and even more titles are coming in 2014?!

Yeah you played them but now you can take them anywhere you go....

Not to mention notable 2013 titles to finish out the year like Ys: Memories of Celceta, Killzone, Tearaway, Toukiden, and Batman. There are also a good amount of indies to finish the tailend of this year too...

I didn't even bring up backlog like Soul Sacrifice, Oddworld: Strangers Wrath, DoA5+, UMVC3, Spelunky, Hotline Miami, Gucamelee, Dragon's Crown, Gravity Rush, Uncharted, Wipeout,

We even have secret rumoured titles that could show up...

I won't even mention PSP library and PSX library...

Kids... let's face the facts... you AREN'T gaming like this for under 100 bucks ANYWHERE else ... and that's why Sony is on fire right now... I don't know what the hell happened to management the past 3 years... but damn Id be lying if I said they aren't doing a fine job.

(Yes, Gravity Rush and Uncharted aren't compatible right now but they'd be fools not to patch it Day 1...)
 
If Vita remote play turns out to be a viable way to play PS4 games come launch with minimal problems this will be a must buy for me. A PS4 in two rooms with no hassle. I'm glad I held off on buying a Roku.
 
molvetica said:
Yeah, this needs to happen. Does anyone know if the Vita currently supports any release of PS3 Media Server? I've never even considered using the device for streaming until now.
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As a matter of fact, very recently Sony updated OG Vitas to support personal media server streaming. People have tried watching movies hosted on their computers and they say it works pretty damn good.

I would bet my leg Vita TV will do it too seeing as its really just a Vita without a screen
 
Seeing as how the 360 is going to stick around at $130 or less and Sony still hasn't been able to get the price of PS3 under $200, this actually fills a really nice gap in their lineup. It allows them to retire PS3 a bit sooner than they would otherwise and aggressively promote this system as best of both worlds to both handheld owners and those looking for a cheaper console system.

I mean, if you were just getting into the market and wanted to get a budget console with future support, this is the no brainer choice. After this big holiday season, the 360 and PS3 are about a year away from annual Madden updates and... nothing else.
 
ShowDog said:
Seeing as how the 360 is going to stick around at $130 or less and Sony still hasn't been able to get the price of PS3 under $200, this actually fills a really nice gap in their lineup. It allows them to retire PS3 a bit sooner than they would otherwise and aggressively promote this system as best of both worlds to both handheld owners and those looking for a cheaper console system.

I mean, if you were just getting into the market and wanted to get a budget console with future support, this is the no brainer choice. After this big holiday season, the 360 and PS3 are about a year away from annual Madden updates and... nothing else.
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But I love my PS3... I don't want her to go away :(

PS3's lineup this year is damn good... I don't expect it to be topped next year... this may be it...
 
What? WHAT? $100? Please Sony please make it this price in the US

Jesus Christ I can play Dangan Ronpa Trigger Happy Havoc on my TV and Dangan Ronpa 2 if it gets localized and then Dangan Ronpa Another Episode and DANGAN RONPA 3 also Gravity Rush and Uncharted and P4G AND PSP AND PSX AND OH MY GOD SONY
 
I hope people understand Gaikai and Remote Play are two completely different features.

You cannot use the PS4 when you are using Remote Play. With Gaikai, you have two separate devices that can be used.
 
molvetica said:
It's not optimal, but it's a $300 savings compared to buying a second PS4. And you get access to most of the massive library available for PSP and Vita.

I think the Vita TV will be a big hit with PS+ subscribers who don't play on handhelds. With one $99 purchase they'll gain access to the massive backlog of free Vita and PSP games they've been banking over the years. Plus PS4 remote play.



Yeah, this needs to happen. Does anyone know if the Vita currently supports any release of PS3 Media Server? I've never even considered using the device for streaming until now.
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I wonder though: will the PS4 be able to multiplex games to different units?
 
DigitalOp said:
As a matter of fact, very recently Sony updated OG Vitas to support personal media server streaming. People have tried watching movies hosted on their computers and they say it works pretty damn good.
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Green Biker Dude said:
can you rip your own ps1/psp games and play on this thing or do they expect you to rebuy everything again with abusive prices
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Buy Buy Buy,

They want you invested in their ecosystem. So you have to buy from the store.

I came into my SEN account fresh so I didn't have a lot of physical Sony purchases. My time with Sony has only been purely positive. I guess I'm lucky
 
MEsoJD said:
No this thing is going to sell like hotcakes. Sony just needs some clear commercials about it. It's an amazing value.
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It's not an amazing value when a Vita sells for only twice as much, while this thing cannibalizes Vita sales and fragments the software base due to incompatibilities. And there will be people who mistakenly buy this product instead of a Vita, and Sony will lose software sales on those people.

JP said:
I'm guessing this will be Gaikai compatible at some point as the Vita is going to be. Although Gaikai will never be perfect this could be a decent way to play your games in a friends house.
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That's what this really should be. A Gaikai device, and it only happens to play some Vita games. But it's coming out before Gaikai is ready.

People don't view Vita as a portable, although it has remote play and a screen, so it makes a great bedside device. I think that Sony decided, well, people don't want Sony portability, so let's make a device that's tethered to a TV. I found it strange that House pocketed the device at the reveal, obviously emphasizing portability when this is not a portable device. It's fine if the Vita never existed and they created a Gaikai device, and built in some ability for PS1/PSP support, and yeah, go ahead and say we hope devs will create PSM content, and we hope they develop Vita content.

I Wanna Be The Guy said:
Then buy a Vita not this. This can't actually play Vita games outside of indies. Guess what? Those indies are also available to play on your tv with a PS3/4. If you want a Vita then the only option is to get a real Vita, not a device that's neither portable nor can it actually play most Vita games.
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Exactly.

Opus Angelorum said:
The problem is they'll need to buy a controller, amongst other things (PSN+).

Selling it as 'just' $100 to someone who does not have anything else belonging to the Playstation ecosystem is somewhat misleading.

Why not just buy a PS3?
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I think there is a little bit of opportunity for the scenario where someone buys PS4+PSVtv instead of 2x PS4. Sony loses money on the hardware sales of PS4, so they are happy to have PSVtv bought instead.
 
Maybe because it is a console instead of a handheld there will be the same ease of account-switching we have on the PS3.

If Sony just copy/pastes the Vita OS they deserve a few slaps.
 
pharmboy044 said:
I hope people understand Gaikai and Remote Play are two completely different features.

You cannot use the PS4 when you are using Remote Play. With Gaikai, you have two separate devices that can be used.
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Eh, it's kinda blurred now. Remote Play is using Gaikai technology so in a way it is still Gaikai. It's what they used to help improved the performance of Remote Play.
 
Myshkin said:
It's not an amazing value when a Vita sells for only twice as much, while this thing cannibalizes Vita sales and fragments the software base due to incompatibilities. And there will be people who mistakenly buy this product instead of a Vita, and Sony will lose software sales on those people.
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How are they losing software sales?
 
Anyone know what the situation with importing one of these to the UK would be?

Are they region free? Can I setup my EU Vita account on one?
 
TriGen said:
I'm happy with everything that went down at this conference. I think being able to stream your PS4 on another TV in your home is awesome and being able to play Vita on your TV is neat.

And I also was one of those people that didn't realize remote play worked outside of your home network, so now eventually I'll get a Vita too. (Probably when I go on an extended trip, that way I don't have to take my console with me if I want to play console games.)

But there's one more feature some people are mentioning that Sony didn't mention. Some have said PS Vita TV could remote play your PS4 anywhere, even outside of your house just like the Vita does with PS4. Is that true too? Because if so, that's awesome. I would love to be able to show some family or friends how the PS4 works on their big TV without having to unplug my console and take it with me to their place. If that can work, then I guess remote play has way more potential to be amazing than I realized.
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This Playstation ecosystem sounds so boss, I hope it'll work as intended!

I have Vita x 2
PS4 reserved
Want PSVTV

Can't wait!
 
Myshkin said:
That's what this really should be. A Gaikai device, and it only happens to play some Vita games. But it's coming out before Gaikai is ready.
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For all we know, Gaikai will be ready when this releases in the US.

Sony needs this in Japan this holiday because they won't get the PS4.
 
I am so utterly confused by everything that's gone down today.

So, they drop the price on the Vita, then they announce two competing Vitas, one that ditches the OLED screen, and one that ditches portability.

I'm intrigued to see how this plays out as I have no clue what Sony is thinking or how the majority of potential customers will respond to this. It's not that it seems like a bad idea, it seems to fall in line with Sony's concept of giving consumers more options, I just wonder how many options is too many.
 
Thrakier said:
If I don't use a vita I loose out of the touchscreen and touchback fun, some games may not be compatible at all. Next to the great OLED screen which makes for great looking games close too your face, that were the main selling points of a Vita.

Also: You sound like 720p on a 1080p screen in 2013 is a good thing. I don't think so.
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So you basically no nothing about how current gen worked, right?

Those games you been playing don't render at 1080p (sometimes not even 720p)
 
Myshkin said:
It's not an amazing value when a Vita sells for only twice as much, while this thing cannibalizes Vita sales and fragments the software base due to incompatibilities. And there will be people who mistakenly buy this product instead of a Vita, and Sony will lose software sales on those people.



That's what this really should be. A Gaikai device, and it only happens to play some Vita games. But it's coming out before Gaikai is ready.

People don't view Vita as a portable, although it has remote play and a screen, so it makes a great bedside device. I think that Sony decided, well, people don't want Sony portability, so let's make a device that's tethered to a TV. I found it strange that House pocketed the device at the reveal, obviously emphasizing portability when this is not a portable device. It's fine if the Vita never existed and they created a Gaikai device, and built in some ability for PS1/PSP support, and yeah, go ahead and say we hope devs will create PSM content, and we hope they develop Vita content.
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Sony gains another outlet through which to sell Vita games, and also enters the set top box business. It's not too shabby.
 
Myshkin said:
It's not an amazing value when a Vita sells for only twice as much, while this thing cannibalizes Vita sales and fragments the software base due to incompatibilities. And there will be people who mistakenly buy this product instead of a Vita, and Sony will lose software sales on those people.



That's what this really should be. A Gaikai device, and it only happens to play some Vita games. But it's coming out before Gaikai is ready.

People don't view Vita as a portable, although it has remote play and a screen, so it makes a great bedside device. I think that Sony decided, well, people don't want Sony portability, so let's make a device that's tethered to a TV. I found it strange that House pocketed the device at the reveal, obviously emphasizing portability when this is not a portable device. It's fine if the Vita never existed and they created a Gaikai device, and built in some ability for PS1/PSP support, and yeah, go ahead and say we hope devs will create PSM content, and we hope they develop Vita content.
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All that matters to devs and pubs is the total user install base

Be that portable vita or not it doesn't matter

Perhaps it matters to you as you desire games be developed with touch controls etc.

(Personally I've always found those to be fairly gimmicky)

but regardless this is the best bet for a larger vita install base and more compelling software

It's a smart move

And at the end of the day it's another option among a slew of other ways to play PS games

Pick which one you like best and game

That's what the rest of us will be doing

Fine Ham Abounds said:
I am so utterly confused by everything that's gone down today.

So, they drop the price on the Vita, then they announce two competing Vitas, one that ditches the OLED screen, and one that ditches portability.

I'm intrigued to see how this plays out as I have no clue what Sony is thinking or how the majority of potential customers will respond to this. It's not that it seems like a bad idea, it seems to fall in line with Sony's concept of giving consumers more options, I just wonder how many options is too many.
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All vitas use the same software so that's all that matters

(VIta TV isn't fully compatible yet though)

But it doesn't matter what vita device someone buys as it will increase vita install base and software sales which is the point of making a videogame console in the first place

It doesn't divide anything
 
BibiMaghoo said:
Anyone know what the situation with importing one of these to the UK would be?

Are they region free? Can I setup my EU Vita account on one?
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Normal Vitas are region free, I don't see why these wouldn't be. That said, it's a pain in the ass to switch between regions. You have to do a factory reset each time and each region needs its own memory card. If you just want to import and then set your region as EU though, you should be good.
 
xJavonta said:
So you basically no nothing about how current gen worked, right?

Those games you been playing don't render at 1080p (sometimes not even 720p)
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Yes it's amazing how many people don't understand games such as Black ops ran at 544p. The exact same resolution as many Vita games.
 
Green Biker Dude said:
can you rip your own ps1/psp games and play on this thing or do they expect you to rebuy everything again with abusive prices
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If you own the ps1 and psp games on disc then you're out of luck, if you own any on PSN/SEN then high chance it will play on the vita tv, depends on support and if a game uses anything the vita tv can't do, but IMO that effects vita games mostly.
 
Here is a question: Lets say you have fastish internet @ 50mbps and you have a ps3/4, OGVita and VitaTV (as well as pc, smartphones and such), what type of router will you need to pull all of the streaming off with zero lag?
 
Marty Chinn said:
Eh, it's kinda blurred now. Remote Play is using Gaikai technology so in a way it is still Gaikai. It's what they used to help improved the performance of Remote Play.
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Yep, that is true. I just wanted to clarify so that people don't assume they can play on the PS4 while someone else Remote Plays a PS4 game on the Vita TV.
 
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