BibiMaghoo
Member
Yeah, I would not need to swap around, just use my EU account. I just want to be sure that it will be the same, so I can set all the menu's to English, use my current EU account and Vita games.
If so, I'll import one If I can.
PS VITA TV announced (~$100, Vita set top box - as in it has no screen - for TVs)
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Yeah, I would not need to swap around, just use my EU account. I just want to be sure that it will be the same, so I can set all the menu's to English, use my current EU account and Vita games.
If so, I'll import one If I can.
You dont need any router for home Remote Play. PS4 has a integrated 802.11 N module. Connect PS4 to the net via LAN cable, and PS4 will send Remote Play to your home via its own WiFi with minimal lag [same works today with PS3].
And you dont need fantastic speeds also, WiiU uses ~3.5mbps stream with rare jumps to 20mbps [that just the codec they are using], and WiiU gamepad has larger resolution that Vita. VitaTV remote play will however use 720p stream, so that will require little more juice.
Best way is to have a good network switch/router and use ethernet for anything you can.
I can tell you one thing, based on Vita "hacking". This VTV will get hacked to play PSP and homebrew stuff like they did to the Vita. Its a matter of time after its released.
Emperor Bohe
Member
oh man, this would be AMAZING. MarkMan, get on that shit
I would think that those who would go for the Vita TV because of the more appealing price point would be more likely to buy a Vita as a companion device sometime down the road. By that time they already have their foot in the door.
That's likely what's going to happen with me anyways. I don't wanna spend two hundred bucks + mem card + games, but at one hundred bucks for a console that I can play on my TV, that sweetens the pot. I'd be really surprised if I didn't end up buying a Vita sometime afterwards if I have a good experience with a Vita TV.
RadarScope1
Member
LOL
Sonys playing the "just buy something" gameplan.
Different product SKU's on market. Nothing but options.
Lite gaming, entrylevel price, slight portability, moderate media streaming capabilites => Vita TV
Gaming focused portable for on the go usage, Moderate media capabilities => OG Vita x Vita 2.0
Heavy gaming focused, Heavy media streaming capabilities => PS4
The power in this is that little did I realize that the mass majority of people fall under Vita TV's demographic. Even me included.. its just a little too convienient NOT to have. Esp when already invested in Sonys ecosytem..
Whatever need you have, They have a product to fill it. The added perk is that they all tango together in the same digital ecosystem.
Don't even add in PS+, when that's in the equation, Phase 1 of the Playstation Digital Platform is in Full Effect.
remote play for PS1 games works from a PS3, so if you have a PS3 you can do that as for a second TV...
molnizzle
Member
oh fuck
What are you talking about? The only thing it's going to fragment is a loss of touch-only controls from here on out. Touch-only. Not that having touch controls in games will be gone, but that there will not be any more touch-only features. And I'm perfectly okay with that. How is it cannibalizing Vita sales? This is a Vita without a screen or battery that displays to a TV. Any game it sells under its banner counts as a Vita game.
Come on now.
shungokusatsu
Member
Wonder if this will be region free.
vivftp
Member
Great looking device! Going to be very tempted to pick one of these up. As an aside, I wonder if PS4 will be able to play Vita games as well.
I was very glad to hear about todays announcements because it confirms Sony is by no means abandoning the Vita platform and is seeking to expand it. The expansion is what has me the most excited because this is one step closer to my dream of a Vita phone and Vita tablet. This Vita TV device will likely help usher in a new wave of apps and developers, which will help in Sonys building of its own ecosystem for Vita phones and tablets. The day is approaching, I just know it!
I was very glad to hear about todays announcements because it confirms Sony is by no means abandoning the Vita platform and is seeking to expand it. The expansion is what has me the most excited because this is one step closer to my dream of a Vita phone and Vita tablet. This Vita TV device will likely help usher in a new wave of apps and developers, which will help in Sonys building of its own ecosystem for Vita phones and tablets. The day is approaching, I just know it!
Kabuki Quantum Lover
Member
I went for a massage today and all I could think about was what I could do with a Vita TV.
Fucking thing is working already
Fucking thing is working already
Father_Brain
Banned
To elaborate a bit more on my skepticism from earlier in the thread: I'm not surprised to see all the individual enthusiasm here, but I'm still far from convinced that there's a substantial market for this.
What we seems to have here is a product that retains most of the Vita handheld's weaknesses (memory card pricing, branding associated with a failed product, software library lacking in both exclusives and mass-market appeal, limited media features), removes or weakens some of its strengths (portability, incompatible with some of Vita's biggest software), and adds a couple new weaknesses in the transition (weak A/V output specs, no IR support for remotes).
A PS set-top box makes a great deal of sense in theory, and I can see the appeal in a cheap box for playing PS1, PSP, (some) Vita, and streamed PS4 games. But while I could be wrong, even at a $100 base price, I don't see Vita TV offering a terribly compelling value proposition beyond a small niche of core gamers... much like the original hardware.
(I also have to question whether Sony will even be able to get retailers outside Japan to stock a new Vita-branded hardware product in more than token quantities.)
tl;dr: This looks more like a reactionary product masquerading as a forward-thinking one than a truly forward-thinking product. But at least the concept is sound, and the base price is right.
What we seems to have here is a product that retains most of the Vita handheld's weaknesses (memory card pricing, branding associated with a failed product, software library lacking in both exclusives and mass-market appeal, limited media features), removes or weakens some of its strengths (portability, incompatible with some of Vita's biggest software), and adds a couple new weaknesses in the transition (weak A/V output specs, no IR support for remotes).
A PS set-top box makes a great deal of sense in theory, and I can see the appeal in a cheap box for playing PS1, PSP, (some) Vita, and streamed PS4 games. But while I could be wrong, even at a $100 base price, I don't see Vita TV offering a terribly compelling value proposition beyond a small niche of core gamers... much like the original hardware.
(I also have to question whether Sony will even be able to get retailers outside Japan to stock a new Vita-branded hardware product in more than token quantities.)
tl;dr: This looks more like a reactionary product masquerading as a forward-thinking one than a truly forward-thinking product. But at least the concept is sound, and the base price is right.
pharmboy044
Member
You have a PSN account, buy a PS1 digitally and it will work across PSP/Vita/PS3 and now on Vita TV. I don't think Sony is "bohica"ing anyone.
AustinFelix
Unconfirmed Member
just some information regarding how Gaikai will be trying to reduce lag for streaming of games over a network.
It's not all about the Internet improving, there is a lot of things that can be improved to reduce Perseverble lag, I think most people have about 100ms lag from the current wireless controllers input and the time it takes your tv to display the input that takes times to render on your console.
So what gaikai will be doing is reducing these times, on the server side they will be looking at reducing the time it takes to render a scene, and a few other things. Next loads of improvements on your client side, time to render from client box to TV wil be reduced, new TVs will have 0ms practically.
And you'll have already noticed that the ds4 is much much faster and has less lag, that's one of the improvements for streaming Sony knew they had to do first.
All these savings and more add up to reduce the overall lag time. Internet speed isn't about the bandwidth but your hop time and ping to the closest gaikai data centre hub, they will have loads in the future .
It's not all about the Internet improving, there is a lot of things that can be improved to reduce Perseverble lag, I think most people have about 100ms lag from the current wireless controllers input and the time it takes your tv to display the input that takes times to render on your console.
So what gaikai will be doing is reducing these times, on the server side they will be looking at reducing the time it takes to render a scene, and a few other things. Next loads of improvements on your client side, time to render from client box to TV wil be reduced, new TVs will have 0ms practically.
And you'll have already noticed that the ds4 is much much faster and has less lag, that's one of the improvements for streaming Sony knew they had to do first.
All these savings and more add up to reduce the overall lag time. Internet speed isn't about the bandwidth but your hop time and ping to the closest gaikai data centre hub, they will have loads in the future .
molnizzle
Member
Yeah, the "Vita" brand (as opposed to PSP2) is finally starting to make sense. As is the recent indie push for the platform. It definitely looks as if Sony is trying to turn Vita into a full-blown ecosystem.
The shocking thing? I think it's going to work.
Umm...I think you're thinking about this more than Sony is. First of all it doesn't matter if, say, the Vita TV sells more than the portable. Why would that matter to Sony? It's still a Vita that they're selling. It's like saying Nintendo would be mad if the 2DS cannibalized 3DS/3DS XL sales.
Most games should be compatible, the games that aren't can be patched or maybe the DS4 will offer a solution. But this'll only affect some games, not a huge part of the library. In the future the majority of games will likely be developed with the Vita TV in mind.
Finally, I don't even have a clue what you're talking about with your last sentence.
molnizzle
Member
For this in particular, if the Vita TV supports the Dual Shock 3/4 then it should support the PS3 blu-ray remote as well. They'll probably even make a new model and re-brand it for PS4 and Vita TV.
Diablohead
Member
There is that yeah.
Sony Reaches Preliminary Programming Deal With Viacom for Online Pay TV Service
So i am guessing if this news has any relevance to vita tv
So i am guessing if this news has any relevance to vita tv
The_Inquisitor
Member
It does.
civilstrife
Member
Is it just me, or does this make Wii Mini completely laughable?
Whoa. Didn't realize this had a USB port. Oh, please yes.
vivftp
Member
I can already see Sony building these things into TVs, bluray players, phones, tablets... everything. Once that happens the ecosystem will kerplode and Sony will be able to push to have their ecosystem compete with iOS, Android, Blackberry and Windows.
Holy frack man, it's like Sony can do no wrong these days. Kudos to them, and I can't wait to see what their end game strategy is with all of this. We know Vita has a 10 year life cycle and it's only been out for 2 years, so we know these devices will have a good 8 more years ahead of them. I do have to wonder if Sony will have all Future Vita-family devices use the same hardware, or if they'll eventually start using more powerful hardware at some point within the 8 years left in Vitas lifespan to enable better multitasking and provide more power for future games. I'm going to guess they probably won't because that'd leave existing Vita owners out in the cold if they can't play games made for more powerful hardware.
Emperor Bohe
Member
there are tons of PSP exclusives that I always wanted to play throughout the years. how does the PSN PSP library look right now? any notable exclusions that are only available physically?
Well, the VitaTV has to output something, and it ain't full 1080p since VitaTV does not support that.
The best outome would probably be if the Vita unit can output PSP/PS1 games at their native resolution, and leave the scaling to the TV.
You can take a look on the web store but SE hasn't supported digital great for PSP. Crisis Core is not available for instance.
Most people won't bother to sell the device they found out was the wrong one and then buy the right one. They'll just chalk it up to a bad experience and dock Sony's rep.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Games developed with the vita tv in mind will held back developers from ultilizing the vita gimmicks like the touch screen and mic though. Its really a double edge sword. Of cause they can have both, but i doubt they will do so to save on the developing resources.
civilstrife
Member
Im guessing local multiplayer is out?
not_so_special
Banned
i love of thre guys of CAG are bashing this on twitter ,its a sony product after all 
Omnistalgic
Member
thanks for the insight...
Must've taken you awhile to come up with that one. It's bulletproof.
Americanmushroom
Banned
play-asia
Your guess is wrong. Vita TV can play ad-hoc games with a Vita.
You can connect two controllers.
lordchompy
Member
I think launching all that hardware all at once is just too much for Sony. If I were to make an educated guess, I'd say we in the States will be getting Vita TV after Europe, so probably sometime in March.
It was already completely laughable long before this was announced.
CaptainTiptop
Member
Eugh, how long before Play-Asia or elsewhere will start listing this thing? I really wanna see how much it will cost me to import.
PJV3
Member
How do they not notice the complete lack of a screen and buttons and the different name?