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[Chie Satonaka]

I think the Bard advantage is that they are the only DPS whose output isn't hindered by movement. This game is incredibly punishing toward melee DPSers, even beyond all the usual danger circles that appear around the boss. Melee rely on position bonuses to maximize their output, but most bosses randomly spin to cast various spells. Also, melee usually have the advantage of mobile DPS, so if a mob was constantly on the move they can keep up their rotation. However, it doesn't work most of the time, it'll start to do the animation and then stop abruptly.

Yeah. I've been noticing this a lot recently. Due to the way that mobs and pathing work, as well as sggro, having so many positional requirements for melee DPS to get their full damage is kind of a pain.

That eft and that dragon in Brayflox both completely turn around to lob stuff at party members. Not to mention the attack animations ending like you said. It's especially noticible for me in a fate where I'll get the tag but someone else gets the threat. I'll have to chase it down and hope it stops moving before I can hit the mob.

I wonder if any of this will be adjusted in the future. Not gonna quit being a punchykitty, but it's definately frustrating.

 

[lupin23rd]

Are they pretty good about keeping the servers down through the whole maintenance block, or have they brought them up early / late on the past?

 

[Kyoufu]

Are they pretty good about keeping the servers down through the whole maintenance block, or have they brought them up early / late on the past?

an hour early at the most I think. I'm going to bed.

 

[Shouta]

Swiftcast is lvl 26, save yourself 2 levels.

Stoneskin is sort of useful, sort of not. Handy on classes made of glass. Not so useful on tank. Good for mitigating a bit of damage from high-damage attacks from bosses.

Stoneskin stacks with SCH bubbles, doesn't it? Then it should be quite powerful especially for PLD tanks and still decent for WAR tanks, I think.

 

[hamchan]

I should probably use a security token but I feel so lazy to enter that code everytime i want to log in.

 

[Aeana]

I should probably use a security token but I feel so lazy to enter that code everytime i want to log in.

It was a huge hassle back when logging in would fail all the time, but it shouldn't be too bad now.

 

[QisTopTier]

I should probably use a security token but I feel so lazy to enter that code everytime i want to log in.

I highly recommend doing it. It adds about 10 seconds at most to your log in.

 

[Aesthet1c]

Just went to log in and noticed maintenance.

Wtf.. are they going to do maintenance during prime time every time? I understand they have to accommodate every timezone, but at least do the NA servers during slow periods.

 

[chrono01]

I should probably use a security token but I feel so lazy to enter that code everytime i want to log in.

The extra 1-2 seconds it takes to enter the numbers is worth the added security, in my opinion.

 

[QisTopTier]

Just went to log in and noticed maintenance.

Wtf.. are they going to do maintenance during prime time every time? I understand they have to accommodate every timezone, but at least do the NA servers during slow periods.

Think of it this way, all the hardcore players can get a normal amount of sleep now and no t die xD

 

[Alucrid]

Just went to log in and noticed maintenance.

Wtf.. are they going to do maintenance during prime time every time? I understand they have to accommodate every timezone, but at least do the NA servers during slow periods.

They're upgrading the server infrastructure. It started at 8 est because it's 9 am in Japan.

 

[aceface]

I highly recommend doing it. It adds about 10 seconds at most to your log in.

Yeah, it's a 6 digit number. Not a pain at all.

 

[chickdigger802]

what mmo does range not have an advantage over melee.

I think it was the worst in TOR.

 

[Cidd]

You wouldn't believe what happened earlier, I was doing the Coppermine dungeon on my 21 Blk mage. got the message about server going down as we made it to the final boss. so we were in a hurry then my router just decided to crash lol.

Lost connection for around 3 minutes, then tried to get back into the game but I got the "You're already logged in please wait" message so kept trying frantically to get back in. Finally made it back in and saw all hell had broken loose with mobs everywhere and the Boss with less than a 1/4 health left. there was a Archer kiting her ass off lol. As soon as I logged in the tank was like "CID LB NOW!!"

Used it, killed everything and got out of the dungeon just 10 secs before server went down.

 

[Shouta]

what mmo does range not have an advantage over melee.

I think it was the worst in TOR.

Post-nerf, FFXI, lol.

 

[Lain]

The first boss in AV *47 side dungeon* will teach you how good that bubble heal is. Cause well You are going to have no fairy and a full party to heal.

Spoiler

Learning how to heal that fight as a SCH made me 10x better as a healer.

Shielding heals rock.
If Stoneskin used less mana and absorbed more damage, I'd use nothing else but Stoneskin and Regen to heal as WHM.
I feel like I should start to level up Arcanist to 30 to get Scholar and try it out. I'm really curious.

 

[SoraanTribal]

With all the Scholar talk I might as well ask.

I plan on leveling it as my second class but I don't want to go through gimped.

How imperative is it that I level Conjurer up to 32 and Thaumaturge up to 28 to get Stoneskin and Swiftcast respectively?

I assume Swiftcast is a must have but how effective is Stoneskin when used on a Scholar?

Yes, definitely get those two abilities. Swiftcast is amazing, and it's almost required for end-game related stuff when combined with Raise mid-battle. As far as Stoneskin... It's mostly used for pre-battle prep than anything else. Or if you are doing a speed run, it lets the tank live a little bit longer. It's not that great for Scholar because it doesn't get the enhanced stoneskin trait like Conjurer does. I'd still get it because people will honestly expect you to have it. It's useful for setting up pulls giving your tank a little breathing room to get threat before cure bombs start.

 

[Jubern]

You wouldn't believe what happened earlier, I was doing the Coppermine dungeon on my 21 Blk mage. got the message about server going down as we made it to the final boss. so we were in a hurry then my router just decided to crash lol.

Lost connection for around 3 minutes, then tried to get back into the game but I got the "You're already logged in please wait" message so kept trying frantically to get back in. Finally made it back in and saw all hell had broken loose with mobs everywhere and the Boss with less than a 1/4 health left. there was a Archer kiting her ass off lol. As soon as I logged in the tank was like "CID LB NOW!!"

Used it, killed everything and got out of the dungeon just 10 secs before server went down.

Great story ahah
I'm love these kinds of crazy situations in online games

 

[Gromph]

Just went to log in and noticed maintenance.

Wtf.. are they going to do maintenance during prime time every time? I understand they have to accommodate every timezone, but at least do the NA servers during slow periods.

Is prime time in Japan where the company is based. Here is from 9am to 9pm.

 

[SUPARSTARX]

I like stoneskin. It's a decent mitigation for sensitive pulls at the start.

 

[Sorral]

Yup. Was talking about this last night. It's bad enough range has the usual advantages but on top of that meele have to jump through all sorts of hoops (that are often unreliable because of server lag and other unpredictable elements) just to have a shot at dealing the same damage as BRD and BLM? That's a really ridiculous oversight.


I haven't really played FFXI for years. I recall the RNG nerf which was pretty justified. At the end of it it seemed like RNG could still be top tier damage dealers they would just have to work harder. The other nerf was NIN... and yeah that was stupid. Basically just angry about people using the class in a way they had not intended.

I was talking about Tanaka coming back after Abyssea and the way he was handling things in the last couple of years until he was forced to retire. Voidwatch, empyrean weapons, magian trials especially last ones, etc come to mind quickly.
As for what you said though, RNG still worked after the nerf yeah. You just had to stand at the right range. NIN's situation is different as SE intended for NIN to be a frontline enfeebler/DD'er, but people tanked with it instead. (Oh and PLD also used to be able to wield Great Axes if I remember right...).

Sorry, I don't mean to off-topic with this. It is just that I'm enjoying FFXIV so much now and I don't want another Tanaka-like to take any part of it.

 

[Manu]

No Pugilist/Monk Players on GAF?

Pugilist here.

 

[Ken]

I wish armoury bonus was increased for every character you have higher than whatever you're leveling.

 

[Cmagus]

Just went to log in and noticed maintenance.

Wtf.. are they going to do maintenance during prime time every time? I understand they have to accommodate every timezone, but at least do the NA servers during slow periods.

Not every maintenance is gonna be 10 hrs. They have to get the servers more stable its gonna take abit as they are still laggy and need tweaking.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Just went to log in and noticed maintenance.

Wtf.. are they going to do maintenance during prime time every time? I understand they have to accommodate every timezone, but at least do the NA servers during slow periods.

This game has a global playerbase. It's prime time somewhere in the world. And it's a 10-hour long maintenance, so the maintenance basically occurs during a portion of somewhere in the world's prime time for everybody.

 

[Mandoric]

This game has a global playerbase. It's prime time somewhere in the world. And it's a 10-hour long maintenance, so the maintenance basically occurs during a portion of somewhere in the world's prime time for everybody.

There's a pretty good downtime around 10AM Pacific/6PM GMT, where they traditionally (for FFXI/I think 1.0) slotted 90 minutes for patches once a month or so.
(For those of you convinced that Japan is fucking you to save themselves: This is dead center of JP primetime, 8 or 9-10 or 11 PM, and they did most maintenances at it for the past 10 years.)

The current timing of 5PM Pacific is pretty obviously just an "all hands on deck" thing for major NOC changes, since it coincides exactly with 9AM in Tokyo when everyone will be at their desk.

 

[Ken]

Can someone make one of those internet countdown timers for when maintenance is over?

I'm not good with timezones.

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

Can someone make one of those internet countdown timers for when maintenance is over?

I'm not good with timezones.

6 Hours and 1 minute from this post, if they are exactly on time.

 

[Manu]

Maintenance ends at 7 AM local time, I'll get to play in the morning.

I'll run Ifrit for the first time today. Hopefully I won't get a shitty party.

 

[C.Dark.DN]

Can someone make one of those internet countdown timers for when maintenance is over?

I'm not good with timezones.

 

[Erekiddo]

I want to be chopping trees.

Maintenance! Damn it.

 

[Lain]

This game has a global playerbase. It's prime time somewhere in the world. And it's a 10-hour long maintenance, so the maintenance basically occurs during a portion of somewhere in the world's prime time for everybody.

They could do a maint for Japan and a maint for NA/EU if they really wanted, though they'd still screw one side with NA and EU being together.

 

[Ken]

6 Hours and 1 minute from this post, if they are exactly on time.

Thanks. Looks like I'll be able to sneak in a few hours tonight.

 

[-tetsuo-]

Fuck my life

 

[Mandoric]

They could do a maint for Japan and a maint for NA/EU if they really wanted, though they'd still screw one side with NA and EU being together.

Eh, that's borderline. Remember, the groupings are a 2.0 thing so there's still a bunch of legacy Japanese in the NA/EU pool and legacy overseas customers in the JP pool.

It's also a recipe for setting off "Japan gets all the good updates first!" conspiracy theories if Japan goes first, and "Japan is using us as a testbed!" if NA/EU does.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

Don't get me started man. Seriously the last few days have been nothing but pure frustration. I am starting to see how people can get frustrated with the quality of alot of players in this game. Now don't get me wrong acting like an ass in chat and pestering players in any missions is a total dick move that I don't condone. However in later end game stuff players who don't pay attention or know how to play their class is becoming very tiresome very fast and imo inconsiderate when so many are just half assing fights hoping the others will carry them through. I play as a BLM I stand back and see it all its amazing how many people really don't give a shit and expect it.

Now I understand people new to any fight have to learn hell I had to as well but some of these runs I have been in is just straight up people not knowing or listening. I don't think many would have a problem if progress was being made but I am on Hydra and my god it's killing me. "Don't go in the middle stay on the outside" the round starts 3 guys in the middle and we die because there is fire in the middle. Next round "Ok guys remember stay out of the middle" round starts 3 guys in the middle. Next round one listened but 2 guys in the middle....

After we sort that out then its kill the add as soon as possible as he buffs the Hydra. Add spawns all DD are fighting Hydra and of course he gets the buff and wipes tank yet the tank is the asshole in the fight after we die. Meanwhile round 2 the other BLM next to me doesn't understand DPS and instead sits there waiting to fire off flare which is completely useless and instead of using transpose to regen mp he waits for it to refill half way on its own. I mean this is just one of the many fights where people simply don't listen and it really doesn't surprise me how people can get annoyed.

I don't know its really beginning to tire me out on this game fast. I know someone is gonna use the "Use your FC" but not everyone is always on and we don't have everyone up to that fight yet. It really makes me wonder how some of these people get this far.

I would also say a huge if not "the" problem is putting tomes in the end story missions. The end story missions for new players is tough they aren't particularly easy fight and the should be there for people to learn and understand the concept of using your classes and working on learning how to set up strategies and tackle fights. Yet we have guys who are very high end jumping in these missions plowing new people through it and it is really setting new players up poorly for content after the story.

Not only this they really need to scale back FATES as people are leveling way to fast and not learning anything just hitting 50 in a day and a half and that's that then wonder why they get their asses handed to them after. Hell had a WHM DPSing today during Chimera. They really need to look at some of their choices or its just gonna kill end game content. Sorry I have to vent on this cause its really frustrating me out /end rant.

I too could tell a few horror histories. And I will be the first to admit that I made some big silly mistakes and in Chimera fight without going that far, but following the leveling path made me learn the basics behind tanking or of the game. I think, as you said, is some people is really lacking.

From BRDs not following the silence rotation to other fellow PLD that asked to be on Stun duty only to miss every Ram's Voice because it's "GCD was down". I think Chimera is the first battle in which all ppl have to do their job and they can't fuck up. And that's when the shit happens, more or less you can be dragged to the end of the game with other good people doing most of the work, but when a fight also depends of you, that's when ppl hits a wall. The problem is that, at that point, there's basically no content in which they can learn to play properlly unless the manage to get into a very good and supportive FC...

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

Apologies if old. IGN just gave this game an 8.6

www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/11/final-fantasy-xiv-a-realm-reborn-review

Just saw this. Pretty crazy that they managed to turn the disaster that was FF14 into such a good game. Pretty much his only complaints were the FATE heavy grinding at later levels and ass holes.

This is some of the most ridiculous shit I've ever read:

By the mid-40s, experienced players were expressing annoyance at dungeon rookies who wanted to watch the accompanying cinematics for their class stories, even to the point of asking for a vote-kick feature so they wouldn't have to wait.

I'm only level 29 and have had nothing but great experiences, with people offering me newb advice (because I am a newb and asked) on how to tank and boss strategies. Now I'm fearful of the later dungeon stuff.

 

[FLEABttn]

I'm only level 29 and have had nothing but great experiences, with people offering me newb advice (because I am a newb and asked) on how to tank and boss strategies. Now I'm fearful of the later dungeon stuff.

I played MMOs for some 9 odd years now and while toxicity is always something to be expected (yes, even without cross server tools), the abundance that I've seen posted about for ARR is genuinely perplexing.

 

[chrono01]

I'm only level 29 and have had nothing but great experiences, with people offering me newb advice (because I am a newb and asked) on how to tank and boss strategies. Now I'm fearful of the later dungeon stuff.

Don't worry. Hopefully by the time you're at a higher level to run through dungeons those players will have moved onto something else.

Or join a decent FC/befriend people on your server and run with them. I'm saddened to see the end-game community [not all, but a large enough amount to be an issue] be as they are.

 

[Chie Satonaka]

That feel when there's a set in Brayflox that you want and won't be able to have.

I saw the Infantry shirt last night. God, it's cool looking. I then saw there's an Infantry Skirt as well, and saw the entire loot list from Brayflox.

What the fuck? EVERY TIME we do dungeon runs, there is two to three pieces of caster loot. I did get the infantry belt, but in the two times we've run Brayflox so far, it's been five pieces of caster gear, four pieces of tank gear, and my infantry belt.

Are we just unlucky?

 

[Ken]

Just saw this. Pretty crazy that they managed to turn the disaster that was FF14 into such a good game. Pretty much his only complaints were the FATE heavy grinding at later levels and ass holes.

This is some of the most ridiculous shit I've ever read:



I'm only level 29 and have had nothing but great experiences, with people offering me newb advice (because I am a newb and asked) on how to tank and boss strategies. Now I'm fearful of the later dungeon stuff.

castrum is story dungeon
castrum speed run in about 30 mins for 100 philo
castrum no queue time

 

[QisTopTier]

Fuck I wanna play, fuck I wanna get swiftcast, fuck I wanna get my darklight robes, fuck I wanna fight HM titan and get my Relic

FUCK

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

Just saw this. Pretty crazy that they managed to turn the disaster that was FF14 into such a good game. Pretty much his only complaints were the FATE heavy grinding at later levels and ass holes.

This is some of the most ridiculous shit I've ever read:



I'm only level 29 and have had nothing but great experiences, with people offering me newb advice (because I am a newb and asked) on how to tank and boss strategies. Now I'm fearful of the later dungeon stuff.

I had all kind of experiences in DF: very good, good, bad and then terribad but certainly if you are bothered by those kind of experiences it can be frustrating. You're best choice is to find a good FC and run the content with them.

Either way, as I'd say, there's all kind of parties.

 

[hamchan]

I've had people that can't play their roles well in duty finder but never anyone that was ever mean. Every seemed either nice or didn't speak at all.

 

[Teknoman]

Some high level players want a votekick feature for cutscenes? Give me a break! Dont use duty finder if you're going to go for some blitz run through a dungeon or primal battle.

Regardless, glad it got a good review, and hope more flood in.

 

[Lain]

Eh, that's borderline. Remember, the groupings are a 2.0 thing so there's still a bunch of legacy Japanese in the NA/EU pool and legacy overseas customers in the JP pool.

It's also a recipe for setting off "Japan gets all the good updates first!" conspiracy theories if Japan goes first, and "Japan is using us as a testbed!" if NA/EU does.

That's true.

 

[-tetsuo-]

Some high level players want a votekick feature for cutscenes? Give me a break! Dont use duty finder if you're going to go for some blitz run through a dungeon or primal battle.

Fuck out of here with that nonsense.

 

[Teletraan1]

castrum is story dungeon
castrum speed run in about 30 mins for 100 philo
castrum no queue time

castrum angry complaints from new players being told to kill themselves because they watched a cutscene.

 

[Arsenic]

Just saw this. Pretty crazy that they managed to turn the disaster that was FF14 into such a good game. Pretty much his only complaints were the FATE heavy grinding at later levels and ass holes.

This is some of the most ridiculous shit I've ever read:



I'm only level 29 and have had nothing but great experiences, with people offering me newb advice (because I am a newb and asked) on how to tank and boss strategies. Now I'm fearful of the later dungeon stuff.

Don't be afraid. By the time you make it up there most of the "first-to-everything" players will probably have moved on. In my experience, the slower to level players are much friendlier. Hopefully more of those will take up the duty finder space in the near future.

You can also to local server pick-up parties, which I believe will be a far superior experience (I haven't tried it, I'm running this play-through with a core group).

I personally can't wait for the rumored local-duty-finder feature. This game should be about community. Most of these assholes are from servers where they know you will never meet them again, hence the rudeness.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

castrum angry complaints from new players being told to kill themselves because they watched a cutscene.

I watched all Castrum cs, I was never ever close to being killed, like I was being told...maybe if no one skipped cs it wouldn't be a problem in the first place...