Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS Thread 2: Where Pilotwings is apparently Minecraft

Hey Toad is the star of a game. Sure someone else's name is in the title but it's more than some characters who got into Smash have.
 
Peach looks great. I really like her HD model.
Can't believe how detailed the 3DS game looks. Talk about pushing hardware.
 
Soooo the character reveals follow an alphabetical order? First Olimar, then Peach... next is with Q wich I would discard. Next Character reveal should be Roy or Ridley

jk
 
And technically Yoshi is just one of many. All the Pokémon are just one of many. Doesn't stop them being in this game.
Yes, but isn't it fair to say that Smash's Yoshi is Yoshi? As in, Mario's...pet Yoshi (which we can tell is specific)? This is the case with other characters as well, like Kirby -- the alts are even (probably intentionally) not the exact versions of actually different characters/versions of the species (the feet are different, I think), as if to denote that this is a specific character rather than just multiple appearances of a species.

I like to think Pikachu as Red's Pikachu too, and the fact that it often wears his hat helps. Though I guess that like with all Pokémon, it's possible that it does reference more than one characters. It does have Melee Pichu's goggles, and Jigglypuff has both the classic anime Jigglypuff's marker and Leaf's Hat (and Jigglypuff is often associated with Leaf across media). I guess the only one we can truly tell about is Mewtwo, since there's only a single Mewtwo.
 
Then you should know why people consider Toad the fourth pillar of the group, Super Mario 3D World even brings this idea into the present day with a Blue Toad just like the original Super Mario Bros 2 (though that was due to palette reasons and t3DWorld is likely because Mario is already the Red One)

Personally, these recent Mario games that include Toad as a playable character, like NSMB Wii/U and 3d World just reinforce the generic look of the games, rather than help Toad stand out as an unique character. NSMB, especially, really doesn't help things with the Toad pallet swaps with no differences between them.
 
Peach looks good but too many Mario reveals come on. Not a good sign.
We basically have every Mario character from Brawl already (except Yoshi and Wario which still are considered from a different franchise).
This makes me hope a newcomer like Bowser Jr. and Paper Mario will show up.
Anyway she looks good, glad that Toad is still a move, but I hope her up special stays the umbrella.

Not good sign? It's possible that we might get a mario newcomer.

i have nothing to say

Yeah, sure.

I meant about characters (and maybe stages) only.
To be fair, this month as been quite good for now.

I think we will see one more stage for 3DS.
 
Well how about that...Peach! I wonder what compelled Sakurai to announce her like this without coinciding with a game release.

Also fun fact: This is exactly two months after he announced Olimar. Go figure!
 
Just updated my OP with Peach. We already have 15 characters that are confirmed so far.

Edited: I'm going to update my prediction thread after we hear something about TGS Direct.
 
Well how about that...Peach! I wonder what compelled Sakurai to announce her like this without coinciding with a game release.

Also fun fact: This is exactly two months after he announced Olimar. Go figure!

Smb was released in japan in 1985 on September 13th if that counts for anything.
 
Yay! Peach is finally that saturated pink we've been accustomed to in other games.

I'm so happy. I was kinda hoping they'd simplify the design a bit too, so it wasn't as frilly/layered and more like her actual design, but I still like it, and it fits within the game world's aesthetics. She still looks fabulous, and I can't wait to slay with her. I played Melee again the other day and she was so amazing back then.

Also I do think blue Toad is a real possibility to round of the platforming foursome, especially with his recent appearances. As much as people lament over the amount of characters linked with the Mario franchise, it is what Nintendo are known for, and I think it was about time they got a new rep, especially a "new school" character. Sakurai's cryptic comment about how her moveset may change also makes me question if Toad will be a newcomer if her (amazing) counter was removed.
 
Smb was released in japan in 1985 on September 13th if that counts for anything.

Hmm good point. Anything is possible at this point!

Man, I'm really loving the art style for this Smash Bros. finally there's enough detail where you can see where her dress parts on the sides :P

I also noticed that on each character page when you scroll over, there's only 3 gray squares left...hmm...
 
Sakurai's cryptic comment about how her moveset may change also makes me question if Toad will be a newcomer if her (amazing) counter was removed.

Toad has a new model there though, but not one good enough for a playable character. I don't think they'd have made a new model for the attack if they were planning to drop it.
 
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WE GOT A CHARACTER ON THURSDAY
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Drago has gone nuts.

And Peach ain't no Palutena. lol
 
I don't know if I'm looking too much into this, but what is this island in the background? I assume this is the Pilotwings stage, but I don't recognize this area from either Wuhu Island or any of 64 islands...

Edit: Looking further into it, I found this map from one of the new islands of Wuhu, which matches the geometry, but I can't find an actual screenshot of the area...
 
Couldn't the same be said the the Toad? I mean Super Mario RPG which showed the world was full of Toads still had a character who was known as the Toad.
That's what I believe as well. It's the obvious assumption. After all, if it was a random Toad, they'd implement something to make it obvious, like randomly picking a different colour Toad each time or giving it a red vest (like in 3D Land for non-Toad Toads). That isn't the case, so, I think this is the Toad character.
 
Soooo the character reveals follow an alphabetical order? First Olimar, then Peach... next is with Q wich I would discard. Next Character reveal should be Roy or Ridley

jk

I know you are kidding but you forget all about Luigi. so Olimar > Luigi > Peach > Metaknight or King Dedede
 
I don't know if I'm looking too much into this, but what is this island in the background? I assume this is the Pilotwings stage, but I don't recognize this area from either Wuhu Island or any of 64 islands...

Edit: Looking further into it, I found this map from one of the new islands of Wuhu, which matches the geometry, but I can't find an actual screenshot of the area...

That's Wedge Island, just off Wuhu's shores. It houses the golf courses.
 
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Everytime I see a picture of Bowser now the more I think his new design is sick. I hated his guts in melee, and didn't really play brawl too much.
(I tripped and broke it) kappa
Def gonna check him out now.
 
Peach looks great. It's super weird that they would get through all the current Mario characters so fast, though... it very much makes me think that Mario has at least one newcomer.

And that it's probably not Toad, considering Peach's Neutral Special is confirmed and seemingly chosen for the screenshot set specifically to say "sorry, guys, don't get your hopes up for Toad". I mean, very few Specials have been shown for characters, so it seems that they chose this one for a reason.

On a more separate note, the ribbony effect they added to her up-smash looks a little odd. Maybe it looks better in motion?
 
Peach looks great. It's super weird that they would get through all the current Mario characters so fast, though... it very much makes me think that Mario has at least one newcomer.

And that it's probably not Toad, considering Peach's Neutral Special is confirmed and seemingly chosen for the screenshot set specifically to say "sorry, guys, don't get your hopes up for Toad". I mean, very few Specials have been shown for characters, so it seems that they chose this one for a reason.

On a more separate note, the ribbony effect they added to her up-smash looks a little odd. Maybe it looks better in motion?

Ugh, it's possible that we are getting Waluigi.
 
So Peach's design for this is basically her Brawl design, but in HD and without the de-saturated colors. That's fine by me.
 
Just updated my OP with Peach. We already have 15 characters that are confirmed so far.

Edited: I'm going to update my prediction thread after we hear something about TGS Direct.


only 15? wow it seeemed like more to me. if we get a character about every month up to December of next year that would be only 30 in total so there could be room for more reveals in certain time spands. cool.
 
That's what I believe as well. It's the obvious assumption. After all, if it was a random Toad, they'd implement something to make it obvious, like randomly picking a different colour Toad each time or giving it a red vest (like in 3D Land for non-Toad Toads). That isn't the case, so, I think this is the Toad character.
Yeah, using the different colours as introduced in Super Mario Sunshine would make them general toads. All I was trying to point out is that Toad the character is a little more than just a general grunt like Village was trying to say.
 
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