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SleazyC said:
I went full MND. I have Darklight chest/belt/neck/earings/1 ring, garuda weapon + GC shield (ugh) and the rest AK gear. I have 4.2k mana.

My cures hit for about 800 non-crit and my regen ticks for about 280ish. I think thats what I saw when I was testing my heals with garuda weapon last night. I can try again when I get home from work this afternoon and post you the accurate numbers if you'd like.
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It would be appreciated!
 
chickdigger802 said:
they both are good. And I haven't read anywhere that going full STR has fucked anyone over yet.


Just go full str. doing more damage should make doing story stuff easier. you can always reset later.
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As a relic WHM I can confirm, go MND all the way.

Gear wise for stats its mainly: MND > PIE > Determination > Crit

The reason PIE comes before Determination is that in endgame WHM often struggles with MP, whereas Scholar has almost unlimited MP.

Thats why at 50 try to get Tourmaline jewelry since it has MND and PIE on it. :)


And NO, Paladin should go VIT not STR. You will get pummeled at endgame if you aren't VIT build. Do not underestimate how much HP you gain, you WILL need this HP. Just try tanking Tonberry King's rancor as a STR build, you'll get one-shot. ;)
 
we.are.the.armada said:
As a PLD you want this priority order:

VIT > STR > DEX > Parry > Determination > Skill Speed

Put all 30 of your character points into VIT.
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earvcunanan said:
Go all STR to enhance your mitigation. It's what I've come across upon researching PLD.
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chickdigger802 said:
they both are good. And I haven't read anywhere that going full STR has fucked anyone over yet.


Just go full str. doing more damage should make doing story stuff easier. you can always reset later.
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vehn said:
How does GAF feel about the fact that you have to run AK 74 times for full darklight and relic? Come Tuesday its going to be hard to decide on the 60th hour of AK or playing GTA5. Hopefully anyone going in castrum doesn't need cut scenes
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I think it's an overstated issue. It's not like you can run the dungeon 74 times in a week. A run a day, or splitting your runs between both dungeons will get you all the tomes you need. I don't think that's too much to ask for the rewards you get in the process.

SquallLeonE said:
That is latency. I play with my brother who sits next to me, and even though he's very quick to move out of AoE attacks, it takes a second or two on my screen to show him actually move out of the way. Also, my view of him ingame isn't accurate for determing whether he made it or not, since there's a 200ms delay or so for the server to send his actual position to me.
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Of all the things I love about this game, this will be the one that ends up killing it for me. There is really no excuse for that kind of latency in an MMO these days, especially one where they have mechanics that latency sensitive.
 
SUPARSTARX said:
Any WHM here? I want to know if anybody went for full MND stat.

I am sitting on most of my class armor, darklight belt/choker/bracelet and Ifrit cane with 4.5k mana. I am wondering if anybody went full MND with similar stats, I wanna know how much the Cures and Regens heal for. Thinking of splitting my stats up halfway now to get a little more raw healing.
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I also go full MND build only because adding to your base PIE doesn't really add all the much in terms of additional MP. You are better off boosting MND for bigger base heals when you consider the casting cost of Cure I and Regen at 50. Pick up the additional PIE through gear to help increase your overall MP.
 
SquallLeonE said:
That is latency. I play with my brother who sits next to me, and even though he's very quick to move out of AoE attacks, it takes a second or two on my screen to show him actually move out of the way. Also, my view of him ingame isn't accurate for determing whether he made it or not, since there's a 200ms delay or so for the server to send his actual position to me.
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That shit happened to me in Garuda. I friggin know how to avoid that 1hitko attack, but even if in my screen I was correctly placed behind the rocks with enough time, sometimes I would get hit anyways, and the party members said that I didnt cover in time.

Maybe its because im in EU, and no matter what server I chose Im gonna have more latency than NA or JP players.
 
Pai Pai Master said:
This happens in every game, not just MMOs. As long as you're happy going your own pace it shouldn't matter what other players are doing or how much time they spend with the game. Everyone has their own play times.
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Yes, indeed, but I guess the idea of a free company that had people playing together was kind of ruined because well people don't play together but with high levels to grind high gear and they don't really take much time to help anyone lower hence you don't really become friends at all with these people. That was my point I didn't really make well. It just seems at times like the inner circle is this weirdly hardcore group who have trouble with others that are more casual. I am a little newer to MMOs so it is mostly a new concept of making 'friends' to me. I guess try different ones out until you find a good fit.
 
chickdigger802 said:
whats the reason not to go full str and do a reset later?

haven't really had any situation doing normal dungeons or solo questing where hp was an issue.
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None, ignore them. The difference in survivability is tiny. Once you're at hard mode garuda or titan you should consider resetting, there is nothing anywhere before that you need the vit for.
 
Valru said:
1) Cannot change SEID usernames.
2) You'll need to create a separate user on the PS3, along with a separate PSN as well as its one FFXIV account per PSN.
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Gotcha, about what I figured. Thanks so much :) off to build a PC. Also wondering if there is a site anywhere that shows general populations for the Worlds? Google has failed me and as far as I can tell, such a site doesn't exist yet. Thinking that the servers at the top of the list are newer?
 
AutumnRay said:
Yes, indeed, but I guess the idea of a free company that had people playing together was kind of ruined because well people don't play together but with high levels to grind high gear and they don't really take much time to help anyone lower hence you don't really become friends at all with these people. That was my point I didn't really make well. It just seems at times like the inner circle is this weirdly hardcore group who have trouble with others that are more casual. I am a little newer to MMOs so it is mostly a new concept of making 'friends' to me. I guess try different ones out until you find a good fit.
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If you're in a FC that has 500+ members (like GAF on Ultros), then surely not everyone is doing end-game stuff. There's bound to be people you can party up with at your level - I've had no problems doing so (level 32 right now).

Tarazet said:
Trolling?
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Has to be.
 
So has anyone gone about buying more game time yet? Setting up automatic renewal, etc?

Turns out I can't... My bank visa uses "Verify By Visa" and this doesn't function on the website... when I try to register my Visa to buy game time, I get an error 601. I sent them a support request and they replied last night:

Dear Customer,

Regarding your request for billing support. Please find your answer below.

Unfortunately that service is not available at this time. Suggestions from our customers are always valued. While we cannot guarantee implementation we will surely pass this on to the developers.

Thank you for contacting the SQUARE ENIX Support Center.
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For additional assistance with this issue, you can reply to this email directly. For assistance with a new issue, please visit the SQUARE ENIX Support Center at http://support.na.square-enix.com.
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So in the end, I'm not even sure if I can keep playing the game... I purchased the PS3 version the other day which added 30 days of game time, but people may want to look into setting up their automatic renewals now so that this potentially major problem can become more critical for them and they need to get this fixed if they want people to actually subscribe to the game.

Edit: People who were attempting to upgrade to digital CE ran into this first and there is a thread on the official forums... my problem may simply be firefox. I managed to buy 3000 crysta with paypal so I'm good for 4 months now.
 
SleazyC said:
I thought I read somewhere Determination had some pretty poor returns. Why does all our AF gear have spell speed on it. Would much rather have crit.
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Well yeah, Determination isn't all that insanely good. Could prolly gear for Crit more, I know Scholar's do that so their Adloquium crits more and is thus stronger. :)
 
SleazyC said:
I thought I read somewhere Determination had some pretty poor returns. Why does all our AF gear have spell speed on it. Would much rather have crit.
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Because you're supposed to base your whole healing strategy around Cure I and Regen with Freecast/Cure III Crit/Benediction as alts and Divine Seal to make your MP go farther. (Edit: Depending on how often Freecure comes up, you might end up constantly casting Cure I or drop more MP for Cure II and the cast speed becomes more apparent as you try and best manage your MP and try to keep the party alive. At least Bene is free, but can generate a ton of hate and had a pretty long cooldown as well.) Cure speeds end up feeling slow during boss battles with tons of movement so a slightly reduced cast time is their way to offset this limitation of the Job. At least Regen and Esuna are pretty much insta-cast spells.

Also the cooldown on the bump to spell speed is way way way too long and I feel like I end up never using it due to this and it's relatively short duration.
 
SleazyC said:
I thought I read somewhere Determination had some pretty poor returns. Why does all our AF gear have spell speed on it. Would much rather have crit.
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I'm guessing that, for WHM, as is found in healing parsing, that crit isn't as good because it usually ends up in an overheal. People are drawn to that big number though for sure and there is always a chance it helps you in a bind. Determination is more consistent than crit as it supposedly decreases the "minimum healed" and increases the "healing ceiling" based on your MND. So with a full MND build, Determination actually increases its returns.
 
Victrix said:
None, ignore them. The difference in survivability is tiny. Once you're at hard mode garuda or titan you should consider resetting, there is nothing anywhere before that you need the vit for.
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I agree with this opinion. Points in STR for PLD offer more than points in VIT while leveling up, especially if you have to do quests here and there. You can reset point allocation when you start hitting the harder dungeons.
 
AutumnRay said:
Yes, indeed, but I guess the idea of a free company that had people playing together was kind of ruined because well people don't play together but with high levels to grind high gear and they don't really take much time to help anyone lower hence you don't really become friends at all with these people.

That was my point I didn't really make well. It just seems at times like the inner circle is this weirdly hardcore group who have trouble with others that are more casual. I am a little newer to MMOs so it is mostly a new concept of making 'friends' to me. I guess try different ones out until you find a good fit.
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This will sound a bit strange, but you need to be 'aggressive' about making friends in large FCs.

I generally prefer smaller, tight knit guilds, but most of my friends aren't playing FFXIV, so I joined the GAF FC Red Dot on Sargatanas (I played veryyyyyyyyyyyyyy briefly with them in 1.0), and they're a great bunch of people.

That FC in particular probably isn't as large as the other GAF FC, but similar issues still apply - lots of them are old friends, lots of them are old friends from 1.0, so they're high level, they know each other, and they want to do high level stuff together.

But with that said, by and large, they're excellent people, they've been helpful, I've had plenty of fun dungeon runs with them, and I've done some of the tougher end game content with them as well (some of them are damn good players too).

But yeah, in any large FC, you need to accept that you're not always going to get people doing exactly what you're doing at that moment in time and free to do it with you - advertise any time you're doing group content, try to pick up at least one FC member of any class before you use DF for dungeons, chat with them, and you'll gradually make steady friends who happen to be around your level and who play around your daily playtime.

You get out what you put in, when you talk and participate and help other FC members, they'll remember and they'll friend you and look for you for future runs. Eventually you'll settle into your own little mini-circle of friends.

The ugly way of looking at it is that they're all exclusive cliques, but that's not really the truth of it - it's just too difficult to maintain an active social network of 100+ people, you need to pare that down to a smaller group within the larger group so you can relate to them on an individual level.

Stick with it, it's fun - last night I did a bunch of my Relic weapon quest, and had Red Dot members helping (and eventually, exclusively RD) along the way. I cleared Chimera, Hydra, HM Ifrit, and got to wipe a bunch on HM Garuda (came within inches of killing her too, she's going down this weekend :D)

And yes, if you really don't like the large FC feel, poke around for a smaller group. Another option is to join linkshells on top of your FC - you can use linkshells to communicate with a smaller subset of friends easily, or just useful server-wide linkshells to avoid using DF. It's better to make friends on your server so you can meet with them later than use DF exclusively. Always always try to bring at least one person from your FC or server with you on DF runs to expand your social network!
 
SleazyC said:
I thought I read somewhere Determination had some pretty poor returns. Why does all our AF gear have spell speed on it. Would much rather have crit.
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I don't know if anyone's actually done proper testing on it. I do know that it has an effect but the question is how much.

I've been planning on doing a bit of testing with it actually. I need to gather the materials for it though.
 
Shouta said:
I don't know if anyone's actually done proper testing on it.

I've been planning on doing a bit of testing with it actually. I need to gather the materials for it though.
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I'd like to know just how much 1 point of Skillspeed affects the GCD; furthermore, if all coefficients are equal across classes. I wonder if it has a cap, too - can't wait to hear your results :)
 
Shouta said:
I don't know if anyone's actually done proper testing on it. I do know that it has an effect but the question is how much.

I've been planning on doing a bit of testing with it actually. I need to gather the materials for it though.
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Cure formula in this thread if you are interested. :)

http://bluegarter.guildwork.com/forum/threads/51bf8cf9ab0eed42a8a469a3-cnjwhm-theorycrafting?page=2

we.are.the.armada said:
I'd like to know just how much 1 point of Skillspeed affects the GCD; furthermore, if all coefficients are equal across classes. I wonder if it has a cap, too - can't wait to hear your results :)
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Check out the rest of Blue Garter's theorycrafting forum, there is a thread on skill and spell speed reduction.

http://bluegarter.guildwork.com/for...d857e3-public-beta-theorycrafting-partial-nda
 
I just had an idea.

Can we maybe have a separate thread for the slow/new players? This thread is mostly about endgame/high level content and some of us have been taking our time. The game just came up two weeks ago. Right now it's almost impossible to discuss early game content because pretty much everyone posting here has moved to the endgame.
 
gribbles said:
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STR will not increase your mitigation in any meaningful way.
You will get at most 450 HP with 30 VIT, but under mitigation it's closer to 800, geared it's closer to 1000. You have far more skills that befit VIT and health no matter how small on PLD goes a very, very long way.

STR mitigation on blocks is staggered to a degree where 30 STR grants you almost nothing at all. The damage increase is nominal, you won't see anything you can depend on versus the nearly 10% increase in HP that will be buffered through mitigation.
 
we.are.the.armada said:
I'd like to know just how much 1 point of Skillspeed affects the GCD; furthermore, if all coefficients are equal across classes. I wonder if it has a cap, too - can't wait to hear your results :)
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One point is slightly under 1 millisecond; it takes 10 or 11 points to bring 2.50 down to 2.49, 2.49 to 2.48, and so on. Put another way, each point of Speed = 0.04% Haste.
 
My point was I actually want a larger group of people and I don't really want a tight knit group as I find it impossible to honestly friend most of these dudes as I have so many other things going on other than FF14.

Can someone tell me how you get into GAF clans or whatever or what are the right ones to message? Are there many of them or what? I am on Ultros at level 30 atm but not sure if I want to stay yet.
 
Tarazet said:
Looked through the WAR theorycrafting thread. They were recommending holding Wrath V for higher DPS instead of using Inner Beast when needed for the 1000+ self-heal, way to completely miss the point of the class' mechanics.
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Wrath V is good to keep up for only when you need it. When you need Inner Beast, go ahead and use it and restack immediately with Infuriate.

AutumnRay said:
My point was I actually want a larger group of people and I don't really want a tight knit group as I find it impossible to honestly friend most of these dudes as I have so many other things going on other than FF14.

Can someone tell me how you get into GAF clans or whatever or what are the right ones to message? Are there many of them or what? I am on Ultros at level 30 atm but not sure if I want to stay yet.
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All this info's in the OP, GAF Free Company is currently full but there's an overflow linkshell you can get into, and members will be added from there as space in the FC frees up.
 
Mandoric said:
One point is slightly under 1 millisecond; it takes 10 or 11 points to bring 2.50 down to 2.49, 2.49 to 2.48, and so on. Put another way, each point of Speed = 0.04% Haste.
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Yeah I figured as much. Seems that 450ish total Speedskill is where returns diminish enough to go no further. I'm not an endgame caster so I don't know if 450 is pretty average with the endgame gears. Looks like that amount would make your cast/recast at 1.89s (down from standard 2.00s)
 
What is the bloody point of all these crafting/gathering classes if some of the items you need for crafting are only available at vendors? Geez.
 
Quick question about the PS3 version. Since Keyboards are natively supported by the PS3, does FFXIV support keyboard input on the console version? Would be a pretty cool addition.
 
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