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Here's something positive for VITA

The latest NPD figures revealed Dragon's Crown VITA at <29k and PS3 at 60k. Compare this to Japan where it sold 108k+ on VITA and 149k+ on PS3. The attach ratio on VITA for some of these titles is crazy. From what i heard, the store ratings for VITA version are also higher than PS3 version. I think this bodes well for potential future Vanillaware titles since they have somehow a pretty good audience on VITA :)

I hope Final Fantasy X|X-2 HD also shows similar numbers so that i can finally relieve my dream of playing FF XII qHD on VITA and owning a portable that has every worthy FF title on it :D

2+2=5 said:
I guess that some of you didn't have a psp, the lack of localizations was a great plague even on psp, think of type 0, valkyrie chronicles 3, yakuza black panther 1 & 2 and many many many many more, it's totally not a vita exclusive problem...
Not that this makes me feel better... but at least now there's some hope with that new sony department.
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There were loads of titles that got localized on PSP, even the extremely niche ones. The ones you mentioned like Type-0, Valkyria Chronicles 3 saw no localization because they were released at the end of PSP life cycle, especially in the West. Piracy had been so rampant in the West for PSP that software sales were downright horrible hence these titles went into a limbo of never getting localized.
 
eighty(one) said:
They're about $10-12 at Gamestop (the protector set). They're official Sony brand and they go on super, super easily.
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I bought one at Amazon for $5 and the official Headphones for $10. My bro also surprised me with a 16gb card and the Vita Vault Case along with his promised 3 month ps+ so i dont have to buy those anymore XD.

Now to games, im getting P4G but not now, im knee deep into other Jrpgs and i cant really start another one. Im interested in Soul Sacrifice but Ragnarok Odyssey also looks great. So between those two whats a better game?
 
DarkLordMalik said:
Here's something positive for VITA

The latest NPD figures revealed Dragon's Crown VITA at <29k and PS3 at 60k. Compare this to Japan where it sold 108k+ on VITA and 149k+ on PS3. The attach ratio on VITA for some of these titles is crazy. From what i heard, the store ratings for VITA version are also higher than PS3 version. I think this bodes well for potential future Vanillaware titles since they have somehow a pretty good audience on VITA :)

I hope Final Fantasy X|X-2 HD also shows similar numbers so that i can finally relieve my dream of playing FF XII qHD on VITA and owning a portable that has every worthy FF title on it :D
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NPD only tracks retail sales right? If so, then I'm sure Vita/Ps3 ratio is even higher since Vita owners lean far more towards digital purchases.
 
PotatoCat said:
I bought one at Amazon for $5 and the official Headphones for $10. My bro also surprised me with a 16gb card and the Vita Vault Case along with his promised 3 month ps+ so i dont have to buy those anymore XD.

Now to games, im getting P4G but not now, im knee deep into other Jrpgs and i cant really start another one. Im interested in Soul Sacrifice but Ragnarok Odyssey also looks great. So between those two whats a better game?
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Soul Sacrifice is aparently better. Don't buy Ragnarok Odyssey right now, an expansion called Ace is coming soon. And there is an expansion of Soul Sacrifice (Delta) that it's going to be released in March in Japan (it will be here 2-3 months later).

There is a Soul Sacrifice demo in PSN. It's pretty long and you can play it as long as you want. Try it and buy the game if you really want it. Although, I think there is a fairly chance that we will see SS in plus.
 
DarkLordMalik said:
Here's something positive for VITA

The latest NPD figures revealed Dragon's Crown VITA at <29k and PS3 at 60k. Compare this to Japan where it sold 108k+ on VITA and 149k+ on PS3. The attach ratio on VITA for some of these titles is crazy. From what i heard, the store ratings for VITA version are also higher than PS3 version. I think this bodes well for potential future Vanillaware titles since they have somehow a pretty good audience on VITA :)

I hope Final Fantasy X|X-2 HD also shows similar numbers so that i can finally relieve my dream of playing FF XII qHD on VITA and owning a portable that has every worthy FF title on it :D


There were loads of titles that got localized on PSP, even the extremely niche ones. The ones you mentioned like Type-0, Valkyria Chronicles 3 saw no localization because they were released at the end of PSP life cycle, especially in the West. Piracy had been so rampant in the West for PSP that software sales were downright horrible hence these titles went into a limbo of never getting localized.
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Haven't you read the "many many many many more" part? There are LOTS of unlocalized psp games, if you think that only late games weren't localized i suggest you to look better.
 
2+2=5 said:
Look at the lineups ;)
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I think the only game that I *ever* considered buying a PSP for was UGnG... and even then, I was just hoping they'd do a PSP emulator for PS3 to allow me to buy the digital version and play it at home.

Vita has a ton of games that interest me... could the library be better? Always.
Fuck, SCEA needs to stop screwing around and get the rest of the PSP/PSOne games available to us Vita owners... but the platform is growing and that's a good thing.
 
2+2=5 said:
Look at the lineups ;)
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I have. Here's a list of what SCEA published at retail on PSP in 2006, PS3 in 2008, and Vita in 2013:

PSP
Ape Escape: Academy
MLB 06: The Show
Pursuit Force
Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror
Daxter
Neopets Pet Pet Adventures: The Wand of Wishing
Lemmings
World Tour Soccer 06
LocoRoco
NBA 07
Gangs of London
ATV Off Road Fury Pro
SOCOM U.S. Navy Seals: Fireteam Bravo 2

PS3
MLB 08: The Show
Hot Shots Golf: Out of Bounds
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue
Singstar
Buzz! Quiz TV
NBA 09: The Inside
SOCOM U.S. Navy Seals Confrontation
LittleBigPlanet
MotorStorm: Pacific Rift
Singstar Vol. 2
Resistance 2
Singstar ABBA

PSVita
Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time
MLB 13: The Show
Soul Sacrifice
Jak & Daxter Collection
Killzone Mercenary
Tearaway
The Walking Dead: Season One
God of War Collection

Tell me Vita's lineup is better than PSP's.
 
Takao said:
Tell me Vita's lineup is better than PSP's.
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Ok. Vita's Lineup is better than PSPs. Soul Sacrifice alone kills it. Add in Killzone Mercenary and there are two games I've bought day one and would have considered buying the console for whereas there are ZERO games I've even considered playing in the PSP list you posted.

It's all personal preference though.
 
2+2=5 said:
Again 8 years psp vs 1.5 years vita, can you honestly say that after 1.5 years the psp was better than vita? Imo not at all.
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Yes. of course and definitely PSP was way better. in a year and a half PSP got GTA Liberty City Stories, Midnight Club 3, Outrun, Tekken: Dark Resurrection, Metal Gear Acid, Coded Arms, CM 2006, Naruto,Viewtiful Joe 2 (and MH?) also major exclusive first party games like Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror, Daxter, SOCOM, Twisted Metal: Head-On..and NBA, FIFA, PES5, SSX and other sport games with shit other of other big named games.

first party wise PSP was better in the first year and half, same as third party (both western and Japanese) in that time period, PSP got killed soon after that tho.
 
Iacobellis said:
I love my Vita, but have to agree with Takao.
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Also agree with Takao. SCEA should do much better. Sure, they are putting a lot of effort on their indie initiative, which is not a bad thing imo., but they should put just as much (if not more) effort in their third party relations to localize exclusive japanese games at worst or bring new content to Vita in the west at best.

2+2=5 said:
Look at the lineups ;)
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Crisis Core came out in 2008, 4 years after the PSP release. We are already getting FFX/X-2 and if they do well, perhaps even FFXII by that time, so I'm still hopeful :)
 
Takao said:
I have. Here's a list of what SCEA published at retail on PSP in 2006, PS3 in 2008, and Vita in 2013:

PSP
Ape Escape: Academy
MLB 06: The Show
Pursuit Force
Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror
Daxter
Neopets Pet Pet Adventures: The Wand of Wishing
Lemmings
World Tour Soccer 06
LocoRoco
NBA 07
Gangs of London
ATV Off Road Fury Pro
SOCOM U.S. Navy Seals: Fireteam Bravo 2

PSVita
Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time
MLB 13: The Show
Soul Sacrifice
Jak & Daxter Collection
Killzone Mercenary
Tearaway
The Walking Dead: Season One
God of War Collection

Tell me Vita's lineup is better than PSP's.
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The only games I would even consider playing in your PSP release list is Daxter and maybe Loco Roco & Ape Escape. Syphon Filter was probably alright.

What digital stuff did you leave off? Too lazy to look.
 
Takao said:
I have. Here's a list of what SCEA published at retail on PSP in 2006, PS3 in 2008, and Vita in 2013:

Tell me Vita's lineup is better than PSP's.
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Honestly I like the Vita linup better. The only games on the PSP list that I care about are Ape Escape: Academy, Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror, Daxter and SOCOM U.S. Navy Seals: Fireteam Bravo 2 (but barely for Socom) And Daxter is the only one that I actually ultimately care all that much about.

For Vita I care about Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time, Soul Sacrifice, Killzone Mercenary, Tearaway, The Walking Dead: Season One and God of War Collection (if it isn't shit). Sure, three of them are ports, but I like Soul Sacrifice and Killzone far more than any game on the PSP list, and the same will likely hold true for Tearaway.
 
DarkLordMalik said:
VITA lineup is league above PSP one. That's for sure. But if you put third party line-up as well then VITA is definitely weak.
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I think first party out put is better in the PSVita than PSP. Killzone and Soul Sacrifice both are games that can be played for a ton of hours. Tearaway is nice too. But, why haven't you listed Invizimals? It's not releasing in US?
 
RalchAC said:
I think first party out put is better in the PSVita than PSP. Killzone and Soul Sacrifice both are games that can be played for a ton of hours. Tearaway is nice too. But, why haven't you listed Invizimals? It's not releasing in US?
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I did say that i prefer VITA's first party output over PSP one but third party output is pretty damn weak on VITA.
 
RalchAC said:
I think first party out put is better in the PSVita than PSP. Killzone and Soul Sacrifice both are games that can be played for a ton of hours. Tearaway is nice too. But, why haven't you listed Invizimals? It's not releasing in US?
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SCEA's given no indication that they'll publish either of the Invizimals games.

NinjamicWZ said:
What digital stuff did you leave off? Too lazy to look.
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Bentley's Hackpack (multiplatform)
Epic Mickey 2 (port)
Open Me! (original)
Jacob Jones (multiplatform)
Pinball Heroes Complete (port)
Toro's Friend Network (original)
Ratchet & Clank: Full Frontal Assault (port)
Table Mini Golf (original)
Ecolibrium (original)

AAA lineup, Vita is beast.

No wonder it's selling 29k in the US in a price drop month. SCEA didn't release a single port on PSP in 2006, or PS3 in 2008. Ports make up a huge margin of their 2013 Vita release lineup.
 
Takao said:
No wonder it's selling 29k in the US in a price drop month. SCEA didn't release a single port on PSP in 2006, or PS3 in 2008. Ports make up a huge margin of their 2013 Vita release lineup.
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DarkLordMalik said:
Any footage and details about it?
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I posted about it a few times so I won't quote the entire post again but you can view it here
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1661802484/hyper-light-drifter

Takao said:
Why support a Kickstarter that doesn't have a confirmed Vita release?

Not if they're as awesome as Vita's Jak port.
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why? the Sony guys are on it and the dev has mentioned the thought of it so to me, it is more or less confirmed

and it's great :D
 
Ah Takao's list wars again - I wonder if you have that bullshit saved to a word document just to trot it out time and again.

Could you add some things to that list for me that might make it, perhaps, a little more meaningful in terms of an argument? You know, small things like:

1. Size of userbase relative to each title
2. Rate of adoption of both platforms
3. Retail presence for both platforms (amount of floor space dedicated per store)
4. Number of retail outlets displaying both platforms
5. Hypothetical I know - but how many of those retail titles would have made the shift to downloadable only since?

And here's a kicker for you chap

6. User's buying habits (retail vs digital) and ATTACH RATE of both machines.

Anyone can jump on wikipedia and copy paste - maybe do some work to provide some weight to your argument? Until then people will continue to post "Here we go again" to your tired bullshit. No-one wants to do that.
 
Takao said:
Not if they're as awesome as Vita's Jak port.
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I don't know about 2 and 3. But at least the first J&D is enjoyable. Once you pass the first hour or so the framerate gets good. 30 fps but good. Enough for most people, I'm satisfied with it.

I'm not playing Jak 2 or 3 anytime soon. I need to rest after getting pissed almost everytime I play the game. I'm only going to platinum the first because I have an unhealthy love/hate relationship with the game and I don't want to feel like playing it never again lol.
 
Moobabe said:
Ah Takao's list wars again - I wonder if you have that bullshit saved to a word document just to trot it out time and again.

Could you add some things to that list for me that might make it, perhaps, a little more meaningful in terms of an argument? You know, small things like:

1. Size of userbase relative to each title
2. Rate of adoption of both platforms
3. Retail presence for both platforms (amount of floor space dedicated per store)
4. Number of retail outlets displaying both platforms
5. Hypothetical I know - but how many of those retail titles would have made the shift to downloadable only since?

And here's a kicker for you chap

6. User's buying habits (retail vs digital) and ATTACH RATE of both machines.

Anyone can jump on wikipedia and copy paste - maybe do some work to provide some weight to your argument? Until then people will continue to post "Here we go again" to your tired bullshit. No-one wants to do that.
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SCEA would be hard pressed to answer some of your requests, forget me. Some of the stats like attach rate have been completely broken due to things like PlayStation Plus and downloadable content that PSP never had the benefit to.
 
Takao said:
SCEA would be hard pressed to answer some of your requests, forget me. Some of the stats like attach rate have been completely broken due to things like PlayStation Plus and downloadable content that PSP never had the benefit to.
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I don't mean to come across as aggressive, or singling out you in particular (been a long week) - but these are the kinds of things we need to know to make sound judgments about the Vita.

29k sales this month in the US? Sure - that's pretty weak. But all the home consoles sold poorly, and the Vita only had Killzone to back up the price drop, which, for whatever reason, didn't coincide day and date.

There's been mismanagement, it seems, though Sony readily admitted that the market they wanted for the Vita has changed. But, only from what we're told, the attach rates for the Vita (particularly digital, where profit margins would be higher) are extremely healthy.

I'd like to see more HW sales though.
 
Takao said:
Tell me Vita's lineup is better than PSP's.
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Vita's lineup is better. I own ten times the number of games on my Vita than I did on PSP. Also looking forward to more Vita games in the next year than I was remotely interested in on the PSP's entire lifespan.
 
CecilMcW00t said:
Kinda depressed lately and thinking about impulse buying a Vita game. Was eyeing Need For Speed since I enjoy racing games. Do you guys like the Vita version?
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While the game is the best racing game on the Vita, that doesn't exactly say much; the graphics are BAD (b/c of non-native res and texture filtering), sound quality is absolutely atrocious (don't even think about playing the game with headphones), and the handling of the cars plus the pop-in equals a lot of crashing (extremely boring crashes compared to Burnout Paradise, mind you).

Still, if you really want a racing game, it can't hurt to try it out.
 
Just downloaded Limbo tonight. Another game from PS+ I forgot I had!

Anyway, a couple of weeks in and I am loving the Vita. I am currently going through a huge backlog of PS+ titles, but want to get KZ fairly soon. I particularly looking forward to Dragon Crown and Mura' Rebirth when they finally drop in EU land, going to be an awesome few months!
 
The only thing that is annoying about the lack of 3rd party support is that there are no boatload of JRPG's. The only reason I bought a psp was because it was a JRPG haven.
Sony really needs to understand who bought the Vita.

1. Gamers that want Console like games
2. JRPG fans.

Until Sony realizes that they aren't going to sell the thing.
 
KennyLinder said:
Just downloaded Limbo tonight. Another game from PS+ I forgot I had!

Anyway, a couple of weeks in and I am loving the Vita. I am currently going through a huge backlog of PS+ titles, but want to get KZ fairly soon. I particularly looking forward to Dragon Crown and Mura' Rebirth when they finally drop in EU land, going to be an awesome few months!
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Limbo for Vita is on PS+ ?
 
PSP 2005 & 2006

EXCLUSIVES/TIMED-EXCLUSIVES:

89 Lumines
88 Wipeout Pure
88 Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories
88 Tekken: Dark Ressurection
88 Ridge Racer
87 Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror
87 Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops
86 Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories
85 Daxter
84 Virtua Tennis: World Tour
83 Loco Roco
82 Mega Man Powered Up
82 SOCOM Fireteam Bravo
81 Race Driver 2006
81 Lumines II
81 Hot Shots Golf: Open Tee
81 SOCOM Fireteam Bravo 2
80 Metal Gear Acid 2
79 Twisted Metal: Head On
79 Mega Man Maverick Hunter X
78 Silent Hill: Origins
78 World Soccer Winning Eleven 9
78 Mercury Meltdown
77 Field Commander
77 Killzone: Liberation
77 Exit
77 Guilty Gear Judgment
76 ATV Offroad Fury Pro
75 Ace Combat X: Skies of Deception
75 Pursuit Force
75 Archer Maclean's Mercury
75 Me & My Katamari
75 Metal Gear Acid
75 NBA Street Showdown
74 Every Extend Extra
74 Dungeon Siege: Throne of Agony
73 Infected
73 Bomberman
72 Tokobot
71 Medal of Honor Heroes
70 GripShift
70 Dragon Ball Z: Shin Budokai
70 Mortal Kombat: Unchained

MULTIPLATFORM:

86 Burnout Legends
83 MLB '06
83 Lego Star Wars II
81 Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
80 Tiger Woods PGA Tour 06
80 FIFA 07 Soccer
80 NBA Live 06
80 MLB (05)
79 SSX On Tour
78 Tiger Woods PGA Tour
78 Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07
78 Madden NFL 07
78 WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2007
77 FIFA Soccer 06
76 NHL 07
76 Snoopy vs. the Red Baron
75 NCAA Football 07
75 Madden NFL 06
73 Need for Speed: Carbon
73 Fight Night Round 3
73 FIFA Soccer
72 FIFA World Cup: Germany 2006
72 NBA 06
72 Kingdom of Paradise
72 Ultimate Ghosts 'n Goblins
72 Need for Speed Most Wanted 5-1-0
72 World Tour Soccer 06
72 Thrillville
70 Worms: Open Warfare
70 World Tour Soccer
70 World Series of Poker: Tournament of Champions
70 Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
70 Cars

PORTS:

84 X-Men Legends II
83 Tony Hawk's Underground II Remix
82 Sega Genesis Collection
82 Outrun 2006
81 WWE SmackDown! vs. Raw 2006
80 Gitaroo Man Lives!
80 Street Fighter Alpha 3 MAX
80 Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth
79 Def Jam Fight for NY: The Takeover
76 Gradius Collection
76 Ultimate Block Party
76 Lemmings
75 Capcom Classics Collection Reloaded
75 Activision Hits Remixed
74 Need For Speed Underground
74 Darkstalkers Chronicle
74 Power Stone Collection
74 Midnight Club 3: DUB Edition
73 Namco Museum Battle Collection
73 NFL Street 2 Unleashed
73 Gun Showdown
73 Pinball Hall of Fame: The Gottlieb Collection
72 Capcom Classics Collection Remixed
72 Justice League Heroes
71 Monster Hunter Freedom
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Vita 2012 & 2013 (so far)

EXCLUSIVES/TIMED-EXCLUSIVES:

88 Little Big Planet Vita
88 Velocity Ultra
86 Mutant Blobs From Outer Space Attack
83 Gravity Rush
83 Lumines: Electronic Symphony
82 Super Stardust Delta
82 Fuel Tiracas
81 DJMAX Technika Tune
80 Uncharted: Golden Abyss
79 Wipeout 2048
79 Surge
79 Switch Galaxy
78 Killzone: Mercenary
77 Soul Sacrifice
77 Tokyo Jungle Mobile
77 PulzAR
76 Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational
75 rymdkapsel
75 Dokuro
75 Frobisher Says
75 Hustle Kings
73 Haunt the House: Terrortown
72 Smart As...
71 Unit 13
71 Open Me!
71 Escape Plan
71 Urban Trial Freestyle
70 New Little King's Story
70 Assassin's Creed: Liberation

MULTIPLATFORM:

92 Rayman Legends
91 Dragon's Crown
88 Guacamelee
86 Zen Pinball 2
84 Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward
84 Sound Shapes
79 Retro City Rampage
79 Need For Speed: Most Wanted
79 Knytt Underground
79 Pinball Arcade
78 MLB '13: The Show
78 Motorstorm RC
77 Sly Cooper 4
76 MLB '12: The Show
75 Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed
75 Playstation All-Stars: Battle Royale
73 When Vikings Attack
70 Divekick

PORTS:

93 Persona 4: Golden
93 The Walking Dead + 400 Days
92 Spelunky
90 Limbo
88 Rayman Origins
88 Machinarium
85 Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath HD
85 Sine Mora
85 Mortal Kombat
85 Hotline Miami
85 Pixel Junk Monsters: Ultimate HD
83 BlazBlue: Continuum Shift Extend
82 Dead Or Alive 5+
81 Metal Gear Solid HD Collection
81 Jak & Daxter HD Collection
80 Ultimate Marvel Vs Capcom 3
80 Fruit Ninja
79 Atelier Totori Plus: The Adventurer of Arland
79 Muramasa: Rebirth
79 Street Fighter X Tekken
79 FIFA Soccer '12
78 SunFlowers
78 Stealth Inc: A Clone In the Dark
78 Thomas Was Alone
78 Disgaea 3
78 Quell Memento
77 Virtua Tennis 4: World Tour Edition
77 Plants Vs Zombies
77 Puddle
76 Rocketbirds: Hardboiled Chicken
76 OMG HD Zombies!
76 Kung Fu Rabbit
75 Jet Set Radio HD
72 Ninja Gaiden Sigma+
71 Big Sky Infinity
71 Guilty Gear XX Accent Core Plus R
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I can see the difference in the types of exclusives and the appeal. Some heavy names and good games in there, but man that's a hell of lot of sports that I could give no kind of shit about... the ports Vita has gotten are world's apart in how legitimately good and essential they are. Ratings wise the Vita seems to be better too. I went by Metacritic for easy sorting but someone can do GR if they want to.
 
RalchAC said:
Soul Sacrifice is aparently better. Don't buy Ragnarok Odyssey right now, an expansion called Ace is coming soon. And there is an expansion of Soul Sacrifice (Delta) that it's going to be released in March in Japan (it will be here 2-3 months later).

There is a Soul Sacrifice demo in PSN. It's pretty long and you can play it as long as you want. Try it and buy the game if you really want it. Although, I think there is a fairly chance that we will see SS in plus.
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lol now im kinda scared to buy both games XD. I'll try the soul sacrifice Demo though.
 
They're rated. If you're one of those "mobile games aren't games" people, that's on you. You can mentally remove the 6 PSM games if you want, and just look at all the others.
 
Takao said:
Sony views PSM as an Android platform first.
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The seemingly 99 to 1 ratio of games to apps on PSM would say it's a platform for Android game development moreso than it is anything utilitarian. Sony released a game for PSM and no apps, so they must consider it a platform and storefront for games.
 
Bought Killzone Merc.. started it up and my Vita froze. Lol, nice way to start.

Game is pretty good so far. It's damn difficult on veteran at points, I'll tell ya that. Graphics are fucking amazing, of course..

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Looking around felt extremely awkward at first but I got used to it for the most part within 20 minutes. While the Vita does have dual analog, FPS games will never feel up to par with console versions, because the Vita's sticks just aren't big enough.. that said, they're just the right size for such a device; I wouldn't want them any bigger, because then the device would be less portable than it currently is.
 
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