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You can't hide from detective GAF.

 

[Deus Ex Machina]

A question to the OP...wahad987 is your xbox user name. When I did a search I found this thread..someone using that name was I guess selling region exploit cd keys?


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=31428409&postcount=278

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Here's a link of him asking why his pirated copy of Gothic IV can't be verified in ABGX360:

http://www.xboxrepublika.com/pitanja-oko-rezanja-diskova/5165-verifikacija-igre-u-abgx.html

That's straight-up piracy, no two ways about it.

 

[x-Lundz-x]

Here's a link of him asking why his pirated copy of Gothic IV can't be verified in ABGX360:

http://www.xboxrepublika.com/pitanja-oko-rezanja-diskova/5165-verifikacija-igre-u-abgx.html

That's straight-up piracy, no two ways about it.

This thread continues to give and give.

 

[Maxim726X]

Hahaahahha I must say, hands down lol

But not relevant, unfortunately

How is what has been posted not relevant?

 

[Enectic]

So if OP really has been dabbling in piracy and knowingly lying about "being innocent" just to stir up something are there any repercussions he faces here?

 

[TrueGrime]

And people wonder why companies like MS want to implement DRM. For dumbass shit like this.

 

[Impeccable]

I wonder how the original poster feels to get caught for piracy and lose his NeoGAF account.

His whole world is crumbling.

 

[Tyrant Rave]

Okay so are Wahad and the OP the same person?

His gamertag and email both had Wahad, it seems pretty clear.

He was being pretty dodgy with some of the questions asked and even said he bought "almost" every game he owned.

 

[pretty done]

I wonder how the original poster feels to get caught for piracy and lose his NeoGAF account.

His whole world is crumbling.

Hahaahahha I must say, hands down lol

But not relevant, unfortunately

 

[Exokell]

why is OP bitching when hes pirating?

 

[slicedmass]

LOL at op, gimme a break. Coming here for sympathy when you were pirating on your console.

 

[Maxim726X]

And people wonder why companies like MS want to implement DRM. For dumbass shit like this.

And that's totally fair.

Still, think it is a worthwhile argument: Should he lose access to what he has legitimately purchased, assuming he legitimately purchased anything?

 

[Dukey]

Holy fucking shit... We're not talking about a service.

We're talking about a GAME which you purchased to OWN. This isn't some contractual lease which runs out after 3 years. You purchased a game, and now you no longer have access to it.

Frankly I don't understand how this doesn't sink in either.

Yes, we're talking about a service. He bought the games from a digital service. He has that game on his HD, and it's playable. If he wants the right to access the service to re-download those purchases, he needs to adhere to the TOS and not steal from or exploit their service. Saying he should have the right to access the service he was banned from is laughable.

 

[Zumblakladla]

I'm not innocent, i told that i took advantage of Oman, and i showed that my 2 accounts are banned, from 3.

It's not relevant because its not same console.

Its weird and paranoid, I should know it would lead to this

 

[BronsonLee]

You can't hide from detective GAF.

If I had to pick between a blind old lady vs Detective-GAF, I would choose to hide from Detective-GAF

 

[Osiris]

Hahaahahha I must say, hands down lol

But not relevant, unfortunately

You don't see how piracy and "Marketplace Theft" are linked / relevant?

Not very bright are you?

 

[HDgaming42]

No. It's more like if he was a regular customer at Best Buy and one day sees that some games are marked free for Reward Zone members, and uses someone else's reward zone card to get them. And then Best Buy says he broke their rules (but not any laws). Now they can take away the games he used the loophole for, ban him from the store, or whatever. But they can not come to his house and take away everything he bought from BB in the past.

A better analogy would be that he was already a Reward Zone member, but that promotion was only available in Oman, so he then fraudulently filled out a membership claiming he lived in Oman to get games he had no right to download.

Oh--and when he became a Best Buy Reward Zone Member he signed documents saying he would never do just that--and that if he did Best Buy had the right to do basically whatever they wanted to him.

See the difference?

 

[Bucket-o-roadkill]

Hahaahahha I must say, hands down lol

But not relevant, unfortunately

Piracy and a perma ban seem pretty relevant to me!!

 

[statham]

DetectiveGaf, nice job.

 

[HellsimusPrime]

Op lost all my sympathy.

 

[The_Monk]

I'm not innocent, i told that i took advantage of Oman, and i showed that my 2 accounts are banned, from 3.

It's not relevant because its not same console.

Its weird and paranoid, I should know it would lead to this

So, fellow GAFfer, you do admit you have pirated copies of games in one of your Xbox 360? Or I'm I reading your post wrong?

 

[Valnen]

It's not relevant because its not same console.

Sure it's not. Totally believable. Not.

I've NEVER seen a case where MS has mistakenly perma banned a console. Something ALWAYS comes out in the end proving it was legit.

 

[Maxim726X]

Yes, we're talking about a service. He bought the games from a digital service. He has that game on his HD, and it's playable. If he wants the right to access the service to re-download those purchases, he needs to adhere to the TOS and not steal from or exploit their service. Saying he should have the right to access the service he was banned from is laughable.

It absolutely is not, if the only way I can access the content I purchased is through that service.

Obviously, the user should not be able to purchase anything else or use the service to play online with others. But that person should still be able to download what was previously purchased.

 

[EightBitNate]

U dun goofed, OP

 

[DedValve]

There really should be a detective GAF vs Sherlock Holmes book.

this thread delivers.

 

[TrueGrime]

And that's totally fair.

Still, think it is a worthwhile argument: Should he lose access to what he has legitimately purchased, assuming he legitimately purchased anything?

This is true and the argument can easily go both ways. I would say it is up to the provider and the manner of the offense. Apparently, they take pirating very seriously.

 

[Dukey]

I'm not innocent, i told that i took advantage of Oman, and i showed that my 2 accounts are banned, from 3.

It's not relevant because its not same console.

Its weird and paranoid, I should know it would lead to this

I'm sorry, but you're an admitted thief/pirate. You do not get the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Storm360]

I'm not innocent, i told that i took advantage of Oman, and i showed that my 2 accounts are banned, from 3.

It's not relevant because its not same console.

Its weird and paranoid, I should know it would lead to this

So you played pirated games on another console?

With the same online account?

 

[LuuKyK]

This is some backfire if I ever saw one.

 

[Yukiari]

I'm going to have to try this when I get home, but I am pretty sure you're still able to access your digital games without being connected to XBL or the internet. It'll just warn you that you can't connect, etc, and will then allow you to log into your gametag and access things on your console HDD.

You can still access them, the problem comes from being denied access to live thus you cannot re-download them under any circumstances. So if his HD fails he's outta luck.

 

[cRIPticon]

Agreed, and it's bullshit. If I paid for something, I should continue to have access to it no matter what.

It's going to be a major issue in the future when media is largely digital content. 'Ownership' is going to have to be redefined.

You may be right. Currently, with downloadable content, you don't actually "own" the item, you are granted a license to use that content. If you violate the terms of that license, you can lose access to it as well.

 

[Zumblakladla]

Ah okay, whatever. My mistake i used exploit, maybe its mistake to even make thread here.

Sorry to all.

 

[SteveWinwood]

I think my favorite part is he used the word hoarding for 60 games.

Let me show you my closet op...

 

[FStop7]

I'm not innocent, i told that i took advantage of Oman, and i showed that my 2 accounts are banned, from 3.

It's not relevant because its not same console.

Its weird and paranoid, I should know it would lead to this

So you're pirating games on one console but legitimately buying them on another?

I'm guessing somewhere along the line you slipped up.

 

[C-Sword]

Do we even own the games we download from XBL? Doesn't it work like Itunes?

 

[HDgaming42]

Holy fucking shit... We're not talking about a service.

We're talking about a GAME which you purchased to OWN. This isn't some contractual lease which runs out after 3 years. You purchased a game, and now you no longer have access to it.

Frankly I don't understand how this doesn't sink in either.

Yes, we're talking about a service. He bought the games from a digital service. He has that game on his HD, and it's playable. If he wants the right to access the service to re-download those purchases, he needs to adhere to the TOS and not steal from or exploit their service. Saying he should have the right to access the service he was banned from is laughable.

this. let it sink in.

 

[StalkerUKCG]

I'm not innocent, i told that i took advantage of Oman, and i showed that my 2 accounts are banned, from 3.

It's not relevant because its not same console.

Its weird and paranoid, I should know it would lead to this

Son you committed piracy, if any account was used in relation to that piracy it can be flagged Microsoft can then ban the console it's currently on consoles it's been associated with and other accounts on those consoles.

You goof'd live and learn.

 

[Gattsu25]

A better analogy would be that he was already a Reward Zone member, but that promotion was only available in Oman, so he then fraudulently filled out a membership claiming he lived in Oman to get games he had no right to download.

Oh--and when he became a Best Buy Reward Zone Member he signed documents saying he would never do just that--and that if he did Best Buy had the right to do basically whatever they wanted to him.

See the difference?

Well, one key difference is that when you sign up for Reward Zone you have to agree to their contract, no? Contracts are legally enforceable and TOS, while the courts lean toward them, have not been ruled as legally enforceable yet.

Anyway, new evidence is catching this guy in outright piracy...so a better example might be a pirate is rightly banned from a service and then complains while falsely saying that he is not a pirate.

 

[Enectic]

Holy fucking shit... We're not talking about a service.

We're talking about a GAME which you purchased to OWN. This isn't some contractual lease which runs out after 3 years. You purchased a game, and now you no longer have access to it.

Frankly I don't understand how this doesn't sink in either.

He still has access to his games (provided he downloaded them) just not the Xbox Live service. Being able to re download your games is a service Xbox Live provides. If you abuse the service then you lose access to it.

 

[DarkCloud]

And now all of his legally digitally purchased stuff (50 games) is gone. That's not cool IMO. I'm not saying that MS shouldn't take some action here, but yanking 50 games that he bought?

Are you under the assumption that he lost access to all his games? He lost access to Xbox Live and the ability to redownload his games. That's it. Anything on his drive is still there and still playable.

And considering he bought his console in 2010 new and seems to have gone full on digital he likely has a 360 slim with an hdd. The smallest slim hdd you can get is 250gb. I have the same drive and despite having over 8 years worth of dlc (including 20 gigs just in rockband), and over 200 live arcade titles I still have room for 3-4 GoD's at a time. I seriously doubt he deleted a ton of his shit for space reasons so he's likely got access to everything he ever bought still. 360 games tend to average 4-5 gigs.

 

[cRIPticon]

Ah okay, whatever. My mistake i used exploit, maybe its mistake to even make thread here.

Sorry to all.

Thank you for finally admitting that this was your own doing. It sucks to not have access to your other content, but perhaps it is a lesson learned.

 

[Clickbeast]

This reminds me of when people were claiming they were hacked with an authenticator while playing D3. Blues would go around and check all those claims, prove they had no authenticator and were lying scum, and then it would just be silence from the OP.

This thread is like the giving tree of schadenfreude

 

[J-Tier]

Good game. Then it was all deserved in the end.

 

[Dukey]

It absolutely is not, if the only way I can access the content I purchased is through that service.

Obviously, the user should not be able to purchase anything else or use the service to play online with others. But that person should still be able to download what was previously purchased.

Part of the service is the ability to redownload your purchases. That's part of the XBL service. If you're banned from the service, you lose the ability to redownload your purchases.

 

[clay_ghost]

Ah okay, whatever. My mistake i used exploit, maybe its mistake to even make thread here.

Sorry to all.

I am guessing its not the exploit that get you Ban lol.

 

[Hedge]

Well, this thread was certianly a ride.

 

[Kacho]

This reminds me of when people were claiming they were hacked with an authenticator while playing D3. Blues would go around and check all those claims, prove they had no authenticator and were lying scum, and then it would just be silence from the OP.

This thread is like the giving tree of schadenfreude

I had forgotten about that. Good times.

 

[cyberheater]

Ah okay, whatever. My mistake i used exploit, maybe its mistake to even make thread here.

Sorry to all.

Okay. At this point you should be banned from NeoGaf. What a load of bullshit.

 

[Zumblakladla]

Thank you for finally admitting that this was your own doing. It sucks to not have access to your other content, but perhaps it is a lesson learned.

I told in first post that it's my doing and that i know its my fault. On 5-10 page i told that I'm greedy and that i deserved this.

I have never said that its not fault. It is, I just want my things that i paid for from my account, that's what i was trying for whole morning and day with customer support.

 

[bedlamite]

Ooo thread title change!