Fighting Games Weekly | Sept 30 - Oct 6 | Hard Knockdown Life

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Week of September 30th to October 6th, 2013.

Fighting Games Weekly is the weekly discussion thread for all things fighting games. News, events, streams, videos, players, drama, everything fighting game related.

Don't know what to watch right now? Check the FGCPros Twitch Group or Jaxel's Stream Viewer. If you want to watch multiple streams at once, you can use Jaxel's customizable multiviewer as well.

New to FGC-GAF is the FGC-GAF Index which lists the fighting games GAFers plays as a neat reference with some rough statistics to boot. To add yourself to the index, quote this post and use the survey link below. Please remember to save/bookmark the "Edit your response" link so you can edit your responses if/when you buy a game already on the list or a new game that releases in the future.


Last week's thread.​


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There are currently no special events scheduled for this week. Check back here later in the week in case new events appear.
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Ultimate Fight Night [ 9PM EDT | 6PM PDT ]
  • Bi-weekly featuring around 5 exhibition matches in AE, with a main event usually featuring top players.
Marvel Mondays [ 10PM EDT | 7PM PDT ]
  • Out of the ashes of The BOX Arena, comes the San Diego FGC's newest organized weekly for UMvC3.
UltraChenTV: First Attack & Lv3 Focus [ 11PM EDT | 8PM PDT ]
  • Weekly FGC show dedicated to match analysis, teaching, commentary, news, debates, and more! Hosted by UltraDavid and James Chen.


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Kachitagari TV (JP) [ 9PM JST | 8AM EDT | 5AM PDT ]
  • Bon-chan, Kazunoko and Fuudo's new show, focusing primarily on SSFIV AE ranked matches but is branching off into other games as well.
NYC VF [ 8PM EDT | 5PM PDT ]
  • NYC VF crew presents VF5:FS tournaments casuals out of The Next Level arcade in Brooklyn.
The Break Weekly [ 8PM EDT | 5PM PDT ]
  • New Jersey's largest weekly featuring UMvC3 and Injustice.
WakeUp SRK Live [ 9:30PM EDT | 6:30 PDT ]
  • Keits and skisonic host the weekly official podcast of Shoryuken.com. [ON HIATUS]
The On Blast Show [ 10PM EDT | 7PM PDT ]
  • JamessMK & DarKNaTaS host a raw and uncut weekly talk show discussing events in the FGC with various FGC personalities.
UltraChenTV: The Tuesday Show [ 11PM EDT | 8PM PDT ]
  • Weekly FGC show dedicated to match analysis, teaching, commentary, news, debates, and more! Hosted by UltraDavid and James Chen.
When's Marvel Weekly [ 11PM EDT | 8PM PDT ]
  • FChamp and the FGTV Live crew host weekly Marvel sessions and hijinks. [ON HIATUS]
Cross Counter LIVE [ 12AM EDT (following day) | 9PM PDT ]
  • Cross Counter LIVE returns with the help of VxG. Cross Counter LIVE is a weekly talk show hosted by Gootecks and Mike Ross, who discuss hot button topics in the fighting game community.
The Show That Sucks [ 1AM EDT (following day) | 10PM PDT ]
  • iPlaywinner hosts a weekly talk show featuring alpha stream monsters Harrison and Honzo Gonzo.


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Game Spot Versus KoF Casuals (JP) [ 7PM JST | 6AM EDT | 3AM PDT ]
  • KoF 1998UM, KoF 2002UM and KoF XIII C action from Japan.
TOPANGA TV (JP) [ 9PM JST | 8AM EDT | 5AM PDT ]
  • Description needed.
Next Level Battle Circuit [ 8PM EDT | 4PM PDT ]
  • NYC's biggest weekly at The Next Level Arcade in Brooklyn featuring SSFIV AE, UMvC3 and TTT2. If the Teamsp00ky link is not working, it is likely on the backup stream on Arturo's channel.
Melee It On Me [ 9PM EDT | 6PM PDT ]
  • A bi-weekly Smash podcast discussing recent events, news and issues in the Smash community, hosted by Scar, Prog, Cactuar and Sheridan.
Wednesday Night Fights [ 12AM EDT (following day) | 9PM PDT ]


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Valley Stream Monsters Thursday Night Casuals [ 8PM EDT | 5PM PDT ]
  • Kombat Network presents a weekly offering stream monsters a chance to get on the streams themselves.
Stream Monster Online Tournament [ 8:30 EDT | 5:30 PDT ]
  • Weekly 16-player UMvC3 online tournament run by FGTV and sponsored by eightarc.
FNC The Arena [ 10PM EDT | 7PM PDT ]
  • UMvC3 weekly out of Long Island, New York, which sometimes features other games.
Salty Cupcakes [ 10PM EDT | 7PM PDT ]
The Fray [ 10PM EDT | 7PM PDT ]
  • A weekly FGC talk show hosted by iPlaywinner, featuring a varying, ensemble cast of prominent members of the fighting game community.
ATP LIVE! [ 11PM EDT | 8PM PDT ]
  • Aris' new weekly show, discussing whatever he wants to! The format resembles old ATP podcasts.
The Runback Season 4 [ 12AM EDT (following day) | 9PM PDT ]


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KaoTV! (JP) [ 11PM JST | 10AM EDT | 7AM PDT ]
Fraud-Free Fridays [ 9PM EDT | 6PM PDT ]
  • Weekly tournament run at the FGTV house. Don't forget about the second FGTV stream as well which compliments the main one. [ON HIATUS]


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None at the moment.​


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GGPO VanBats [ 4PM EDT | 1PM PDT ]
  • Weekly GGPO Vampire Savior ranbats streamed by GAFer Rotanibor.
Super Smash Sundays [ 4PM EDT | 1PM PDT ]
  • Level|Up and Team OXY partner up to create a new weekly for the SoCal Melee community, featuring doubles and singles.



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On GAF we have various members that stream fighting games from time to time too:
Additionally, if you want to really get involved, you may want to check out the various OTs for specific games:
GAF isn't the only FG community in town though. Here are a whole bunch of other FG communities across the internet that may be of interest:
  • 8WayRun - Soul Calibur franchise community
  • DOACentral - Dead or Alive franchise community
  • Dream Cancel - King of Fighters franchise community and resource, more US-centric
  • Dustloop - Forums/community for Arc System Works-developed games
  • Eventhubs - Frequently updated news blog, resource and forums for all things fighting games
  • FreeStepDodge - Dead or Alive franchise community
  • Homing Cancel - Arcana Heart community
  • iPlaywinner - Large fighting game news site and resource, and the home to Teamsp00ky and iPlaywinner
  • Jet Upper - UK-centric news source and community
  • Mayonaka Midnight - Persona 4 Arena community and resource
  • Melty Bread - Melty Blood community
  • Mizuumi - A resource for various "poverty" games
  • Orochinagi - King of Fighters franchise community and resource, more EU-centric
  • Reddit Fighters - Reddit's own fighting game community subreddit
  • Shoryuken - Mainly 2D, Capcom game centric hub, and probably one of, if not the largest FG community on the internet
  • Skullheart - fan Skullgirls community and resource made official
  • TekkenZaibatsu - Tekken franchise community
  • Test Your Might - Mortal Kombat and Injustice community and resource
  • UKFGC - UK-centric news source and community
  • Smash Boards - The largest Smash Bros. Community™
  • VFDC - Virtua Fighter franchise community site

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If you have any suggestions for the OP, please do not hesitate to post in this thread or PM me to let me know.
 
David_hayter said:
i know youre being sarcastic but i really feel the fgc is dying tbh.
Weeklies(WNF/TRB, NLBC) has been getting lesser viewers...i remember when Big Two had like 8k viewers, now its only 3-4k viewers
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The recent exhibitions have been a lot more interesting than the weeklies and some of the majors as well recently. For me at least.
 
Stream viewership doesn't determine the strength of the FGC. In my opinion, what really matters is the strength of local communities and the numbers at local events.
 
No big rivalries, Arcsys games release dates in the USA are terrible, people are getting bored of the current meta, etc. It still boggles my mind that TRB/WNF still gets 40+ people for AE and Marvel. No idea on NLBC numbers. The local monthly in my city is staying solid with 18 people for AE and 20+ for Marvel. So there's nothing really going on in stream land but in locals, people are still going hard.
 
David_hayter said:
i know youre being sarcastic but i really feel the fgc is dying tbh.
Weeklies(WNF/TRB, NLBC) has been getting lesser viewers...i remember when Big Two had like 8k viewers, now its only 3-4k viewers
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Views aren't as important as attendance and the pass couple of battle circuits had low attendance
 
David_hayter said:
i know youre being sarcastic but i really feel the fgc is dying tbh.
Weeklies(WNF/TRB, NLBC) has been getting lesser viewers...i remember when Big Two had like 8k viewers, now its only 3-4k viewers
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They are probably getting less viewers because they are boring to watch. That is an issue for those weeklies to address if they want, not an indication of the health of the fgc.

EVO was not too long ago and had record numbers.
 
toddhunter said:
They are probably getting less viewers because they are boring to watch. That is an issue for those weeklies to address if they want, not an indication of the health of the fgc.

EVO was not too long ago and had record numbers.
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In the case of NLBC the numbers last week were very bad. Though I agree the presentation of seeing the same people playing weekly is getting a bit stale.
 
Aw man, I didn't know I had to pay 8.95 to watch the archives of Canada Cup.... That what I get for playing with the kids and making dinner.

FGC dead to me (at least Canada Cup). Will Canada Cup at least put it on youtube?
 
MavFan619 said:
I was hype on some DeeJay and hype I can post in the FGC threads. No more lurking :)
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Welcome to GAF! Console Wars are available to your left and enlightening is available to your right.

David_hayter said:
i know youre being sarcastic but i really feel the fgc is dying tbh.
Weeklies(WNF/TRB, NLBC) has been getting lesser viewers...i remember when Big Two had like 8k viewers, now its only 3-4k viewers
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Recent majors have been pulling a lot. Canada Cup just did 20k. Sp00ky always traveling has hurt NLBC, but generally Next Level viewers fluctuate a LOT. Wouldn't be the first time I've seen it as low as 4k.
 
enzo_gt said:
Welcome to GAF! Console Wars are available to your left and enlightening is available to your right.


Recent majors have been pulling a lot. Canada Cup just did 20k. Sp00ky always traveling has hurt NLBC, but generally Next Level viewers fluctuate a LOT. Wouldn't be the first time I've seen it as low as 4k.
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But like as said before attendance has been bad for battle circuit for a couple of weeks
 
MavFan619 said:
In the case of NLBC the numbers last week were very bad. Though I agree the presentation of seeing the same people playing weekly is getting a bit stale.
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Same deal with attendance. It seems everybody was off playing GTA5 so maybe they could have had a GTA5 competition? 5 minutes per player to pull off the funniest or most outrageous stunt on the stream to win a copy of the game?

It may be counter-intuitive to promote fighting game events with non-fighting games, but everybody will be bored with GTA5 in a week and looking to get back into it. Meanwhile adding fun things like that will help attract those who have hit their ceiling and are just getting bodied week after week.
 
toddhunter said:
Same deal with attendance. It seems everybody was off playing GTA5 so maybe they could have had a GTA5 competition? 5 minutes per player to pull off the funniest or most outrageous stunt on the stream to win a copy of the game?

It may be counter-intuitive to promote fighting game events with non-fighting games, but everybody will be bored with GTA5 in a week and looking to get back into it. Meanwhile adding fun things like that will help attract those who have hit their ceiling and are just getting bodied week after week.
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Not really, GTA Online comes out in 2 days.

RIP NLBC.

EDIT: Attendance goes up and down too. About half a year ago you'd see NLBCs where 15 people show up for AE. Keep in mind they're running multiple games now too, 3-4 at least every week.
 
Guys you forgot the most important event coming up related to the FGC...

The release of Killer Instinct. It will reinvigorate the FGC.. taking it into a new era of E SPORTS.
 
MavFan619 said:
In the case of NLBC the numbers last week were very bad. Though I agree the presentation of seeing the same people playing weekly is getting a bit stale.
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That's the real issue. The games are stale right now. Nothing new out right now except for DOA5, which really isn't very spectator friendly.

Marvel in particular seems stale right now, AE a bit less so, but folks are just waiting for Ultra.

Folks don't like it when they're not able to play the latest version of a game (even if that latest version isn't coming out for months)

Curious- has TTT2 kept its numbers pretty well- that's a game I imagined would keep its viewers for the most part.
 
Dahbomb said:
Guys you forgot the most important event coming up related to the FGC...

The release of Killer Instinct. It will reinvigorate the FGC.. taking it into a new era of E SPORTS.
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FGC basically needs a game to get everyone excited again. I think that game is Xrd, but it might be Killer Instinct if they learn from the mistakes of Netherrealm.Though right now I think there is too much uncertainty surrounding the game for it to really pop off like that, and being on a platform that's marketing thus far has been "approach with caution" doesn't help either.
 
Meanwhile I've been wondering how I'm going to manage playing all of these fighting games. SF4, Chaos Code, BBCP in less than a month, US Aquapazza in November, +R whenever Aksys gets that out... I know people who are interested in learning Melty Blood with me as well.

Edit: Also UNIEL port FB plz ;_;
 
I don't think it's possible for KI to be that game. Not going to get any benefit of the doubt, and I just don't trust Double Helix to make it perfect, which is what it would take.

USF4 will be the next big game, provided they make big changes. Xrd will be pretty big as well, but that's a long way off.

I think Persona will help a bit as well when/if it comes out on console.
 
enzo_gt said:
FGC basically needs a game to get everyone excited again. I think that game is Xrd, but it might be Killer Instinct if they learn from the mistakes of Netherrealm.Though right now I think there is too much uncertainty surrounding the game for it to really pop off like that, and being on a platform that's marketing thus far has been "approach with caution" doesn't help either.
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Xrd's probably the best shot right now in my eyes. Mostly because of being on current and next gen, and that GG appeals to more than just one part of the FGC. Capcom players are going to be hungry for something new too which helps.

ASW just better not screw this up and have late localizations though.
 
This generation of fighting game players and viewers are just too used to new updates/revisions/expansions/DLCs now that if you go two years without any change things start to get "stale". Everyone wants to stay in the phase of discovery, not in the phase of optimization which is in fact boring to watch for most people.

As a fan of UMVC3, the latest tournament with its top 8 had a lot of new stuff to see and some great matches (well except the Bee chokes those were hard to watch)... far from being stale. The problem with that game is not even the game itself.. it's that two players have gotten so ahead of the competition that we have gotten the same grand finals a few times in a row. Until we get like 8 people at that caliber playing the game will just be those few players dominating. In AE though there are just a ton more players who are at that absurdly high level who can take big wins so even if they are using Cammy/Fei/Akuma etc. its still exciting because the result is hard to predict.
 
What is scaring me about USF4 is the lack of info coming from Capcom. I thought we might hear something about it at TGS but seems like we have to wait till Capcom Cup.
 
Dahbomb said:
In AE though there are just a ton more players who are at that absurdly high level who can take big wins so even if they are using Cammy/Fei/Akuma etc. its still exciting because the result is hard to predict.
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But I was told that it's because SF4 is "random". lol
 
alstein said:
I think Persona will help a bit as well when/if it comes out on console.
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I'm still pretty sure the November persona announcement will be the console version.

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I think people just want to feel like they have a chance of winning. Early in a game's life you can kind of delude yourself that you will keep getting better and can compete but that only lasts for so long. Majors and weeklies should mix things up to reflect this (although I don't think we are at that point yet).
 
Remember guys, when new games were coming out every few months in the last couple of years, people were complaining about the market being too saturated and too many games being dead on arrival (not just DOA) because nobody could be bothered to put the time in.

How we get a gap in releases and all of a sudden the world's over
 
Rhapsody said:
But I was told that it's because SF4 is "random". lol
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Not this shit again...

Anyway people are more concerned about "Match Up Fighter" or "Set Up Fighter" than it being random or whatever the fuck. I guess that stuff is changing with Ultra so there's that to look forward to. People are going to tolerate whatever shit happens in AE mostly because "oh well, at least Ultra is coming". Other games don't have that luxury so people are likely to quit playing/watching them.
 
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