Fighting Games Weekly | Sept 30 - Oct 6 | Hard Knockdown Life

The side bets at Canada cup yesterday were real as fuck

Won 150 riding the xiao hai train.

Won 75 on champ resetting the grand finals bracket and another 75 when he won the whole thing

Got 1:1 odds on Canada vs America in team tournament. After Canada lost the first two, I got 2:1. After the next one lost, I got 3:1. I putt 50 on chi rithy

Won close to 600 on side bets throughout the whole tourny
ain't nothin more important than the mula

boi
 
This is such an interesting tactic by Capcom to promote the online component of the game... I can already see a lot of people trying to grind for those points online.
 
It's pretty funny how bad Eventhubs has gotten. It just feels like their focus is primarily on making money now. Posting fighting game news is just secondary. Every week, they post like 5 or 6 polls that doesn't really accomplish anything aside from getting more hits on their website.
 
It's pretty funny how bad Eventhubs has gotten. It just feels like their focus is primarily on making money now. Posting fighting game news is just secondary. Every week, they post like 5 or 6 polls that doesn't really accomplish anything aside from getting more hits on their website.
Not to forget posting a bunch of tweets that say nothing and trying to squeeze a 3 paragraph article out of them.

Unfortunately, it's still the best, most frequent source for fighting game news, it's just plagued with also being the best, most frequent source for non-news.
 
Not to forget posting a bunch of tweets that say nothing and trying to squeeze a 3 paragraph article out of them.

Unfortunately, it's still the best, most frequent source for fighting game news, it's just plagued with also being the best, most frequent source for non-news.

SRK is still good. The forums just suck.
 
Well, I understand that Eventhubs has to make money to continue doing what they're doing. It's not like you could just take an hour out of your day and have the content that EH has, especially during major tournaments. The problem is that I think this "solution" is going to cause more negatives than positives.
 
Well, I understand that Eventhubs has to make money to continue doing what they're doing. It's not like you could just take an hour out of your day and have the content that EH has, especially during major tournaments. The problem is that I think this "solution" is going to cause more negatives than positives.

What's the alternative though? No one would deactivate their ad block if eventhubs had gone "hey guys, would you be nice and not use adblocks? thanks guys!"

Not like the ads on the site are very intrusive either. So I don't see the big deal. Only places i see the point of ad block is on sites like youtube or twitch. where the ads are super intrusive.
 
Well, I understand that Eventhubs has to make money to continue doing what they're doing. It's not like you could just take an hour out of your day and have the content that EH has, especially during major tournaments. The problem is that I think this "solution" is going to cause more negatives than positives.
I think them framing this move as a necessity to keep the site alive is the strangest part of it all. Even if it is true and both "solutions," either downsizing to the point of extinction or implementing terrible ads that leave a bad taste in everyone's mouth, solve the problem, it's not really helping Eventhubs' case amongst all the other quibbles people have about the site that have been accumulating for a while. Had they had taken the 8WR route, I don't think you would have seen this reaction. Come to think of it, I'm not sure why anyone would try this route over the 8WR route, especially if they ever end up being sourced on Kotaku or something again and have a bunch of people coming to their site only to see these fugly overlays and make infrequent readers go "fuck this site" and never visit again.

Real rap, you need one dude that browses NeoGAF all day long and you can make a news site out of it, no other place has as many people constantly hunting for new information and breaking news. If it works for so many general gaming news sites that leech off of GAF, I'm sure it'd work for a genre-specific site. Eventhubs already does that for some news that breaks on GAF and doesn't source it all of the time.
Half serious here
 
What's the alternative though? No one would deactivate their ad block if eventhubs had gone "hey guys, would you be nice and not use adblocks? thanks guys!"

Not like the ads on the site are very intrusive either. So I don't see the big deal. Only places i see the point of ad block is on sites like youtube or twitch. where the ads are super intrusive.
Are you sure? That's the exact argument that has me whitelisting NeoGAF.
 
Not to forget posting a bunch of tweets that say nothing and trying to squeeze a 3 paragraph article out of them.

Unfortunately, it's still the best, most frequent source for fighting game news, it's just plagued with also being the best, most frequent source for non-news.

Most frequent? As in most frequently updated?
 
Real rap, you need one dude that browses NeoGAF all day long and you can make a news site out of it, no other place has as many people constantly hunting for new information and breaking news. If it works for so many general gaming news sites that leech off of GAF, I'm sure it'd work for a genre-specific site. Eventhubs already does that for some news that breaks on GAF and doesn't source it all of the time.
Half serious here

Wario64?
 
Most frequent? As in most frequently updated?
Yeah. At least compared to whatever mental image I have of when I used to browse SRK for more than making these OPs. Every day there are art posts (and art re-posts..), combo videos, tech, news, etc. by the boatload. They pump out a lot per day.

Generally, I'm the type that will take that even with all the filler they throw in there because ill flip through it quick in my RSS feed and consume all the information, picking what's relevant to me to read. But that doesn't necessarily mean they couldn't be a bit leaner and make my feed reading experience a bit more efficient. That's just me though, and obviously they have to get enough hits to stay alive.

If I had the time/patience I'd consider experimenting with the SRK feed again to make a more direct comparison now that their site runs much better.

[QUOTE="God's Beard!";84165529]Wario64?[/QUOTE]
GameTrailers did good to snatch him up.

Also just small other things like you have some private investigators on GAF that really do go hunt this shit down, get other GAFers to translate and validate from multiple sources etc. And that's not even including those GAF ninjas that may as well be private investigators.
 
Lobo looks so stupid. I'd rather have Shin Cyber Scorpion in the game, who is just unpatched Scorpion.

Rob zombie looking doofus
 
Yeah. At least compared to whatever mental image I have of when I used to browse SRK for more than making these OPs. Every day there are art posts (and art re-posts..), combo videos, tech, news, etc. by the boatload. They pump out a lot per day.

Generally, I'm the type that will take that even with all the filler they throw in there because ill flip through it quick in my RSS feed and consume all the information, picking what's relevant to me to read. But that doesn't necessarily mean they couldn't be a bit leaner and make my feed reading experience a bit more efficient. That's just me though, and obviously they have to get enough hits to stay alive.

If I had the time/patience I'd consider experimenting with the SRK feed again to make a more direct comparison now that their site runs much better.

Gotcha, just curious what you meant there. Your mental image is a little skewed, but I understand that you haven't visited SRK for awhile.
 
No one would deactivate their ad block if eventhubs had gone "hey guys, would you be nice and not use adblocks? thanks guys!"

That's exactly what they did do, but the big half-screen auto-play video ads meant a lot of people turned around and re-enabled it.

Not like the ads on the site are very intrusive either.

Does that mean they got rid of the aforementioned half-screen auto-play videos?
 
Just wanted put out an update on Art of Fighting from E-Dawg himself :)

THE ART OF FIGHTING has ended. Some things I want to touch on:

-NUMBERS: The total donations so far (we may see a little more added to this when it's all sorted out) total $3612.82!!! This includes the sale of art (including a HUGE $1200 purchase of the amazing "Red Cyclone" painting by Gamers Anonymous's very own Mr. Jon Sakura), the tournament entries (which, Piyavath Kongphouthakhoun tells me, were more than any other tournament in New Mexico thus far), the raffle (shout-outs to Kelly Atsye for rigging the raffle), pizza sales (big thanks to Golden Crown Panaderia, who kept everyone fed), donations from stream viewers (we had over 100 viewers, a first for an NM-ISM stream), general donations at the event, and a $100 bonus for our Virtua Fighter exhibition donated by Clayton Knight of PhreakMods!!!

-THANK YOUS: First of all, big thanks go to Michael Borin, Jody, and Skyler at Metropolis Comic Art Gallery; we could not have asked for more generous hosts and partners, and this thing became what it was because of you. Thank you to all of our artists; you flooded the gallery with your talent and hard work, and I am blown away (don't think I won't be bugging you to do it again next year). Thanks to Jeffrey Kongphouthakhoun for getting the place jumping, the lovely Rozanne for minding the refreshments without even being asked, and everyone who got sent out on numerous runs, including Aaron Koslik, Gabriel Salazar, Shane, Buckley Johnson, and anyone else I'm forgetting. Thank you to Luke Hurtado for his dedication to the stream, both leading up to the event and into the late hours of the tournament. Thanks to Pi for once again showing that he's the best TO in the biz. Thanks to Eric Nelson and Nick for documenting everyting - can't wait to see what you guys got - and the brothers Pat and AJ for helping us with equipment and transport. Thanks to Jon and Buck for their support and being on hand to help us bring it all together. Thank you to our sponsors; Peter "ComboFiend" Rosas at Capcom, Mai at Sega, Paul (Koogy) at Brokentier, Seth "S-Kill" Killian, Ben and Linda at Gallery Nucleus, and iam8bit. Thank you to Prog from the Smash community, Catalyst at EventHubs, Patrick at SRK, Jason at Kotaku, Nicole at KOB, and Brittany and Samantha at KRQE and KASA for helping us get the word out to a larger audience than I ever imagined. Thank you to everyone at the charities; Kristine - possibly my biggest inspiration to do this - Jill, and Anne at Save Babies, and Kim, Ron, Ruth, and Sheridan - another big inspiration, wish you could have made it - at March of Dimes. Finally, thanks to the entire NM-ISM family; this was as much for you as it was for me and for the charities, and I can't imagine where I'd be without all of you.

-FINALLY... This thing meant a lot of things to me and I nearly broke myself doing it. There were times when I didn't think this was going to work, and alternately, times when I was a litte unrealistic about what we could do with it. In both cases, the people by my side proved me wrong and in the end, I think I did what I set out to do - put on a show that people would enjoy, make some kind of difference for charity and awareness, and honor the most important person in my life. There was no great realization for me about the child I lost; perhaps I was too focused, too exhausted to feel that while everything was going on. All I feel is that I have no intention of quitting. THE ART OF FIGHTING will return next year, bottom line, even if it kills me, bigger and louder than this year... because I fight. I think my motivation for continuing to do this isn't much different from that of your favorite fighting game character: the fight is everything.

Thanks to everyone that helped spread the word, donated, or even just watched!
 
I coulda had much more but those bee drops are too real

Put 200 on him against chris g and 100 on him against champ

also, everyone at the venue laughed when rog was like "ill take 100 to 1 odds on neo beating chris g"
 
How good are the WNF numbers on DOA5u? I'll be back in Cali in a few months and I want to see it still there when I come to try my hand at something local.
 
Funniest part about Canada Cup to me was yelling out fgc related jokes/memes and the crowd actually laughing

1. After Champ won that match against Chris G with the Dormammu chip- "nice dormammu dawg"

2. When dakou was going nuts- "put Dee Jay in marvel"

3. Shouting "5 golden letters" after every perfect
 
Funniest part about Canada Cup to me was yelling out fgc related jokes/memes and the crowd actually laughing

1. After Champ won that match against Chris G with the Dormammu chip- "nice dormammu dawg"

2. When dakou was going nuts- "put Dee Jay in marvel"

3. Shouting "5 golden letters" after every perfect

I find that it can be pretty annoying. Awhile ago, I remember a guy saying kappa after a joke.
 
Funniest part about Canada Cup to me was yelling out fgc related jokes/memes and the crowd actually laughing

1. After Champ won that match against Chris G with the Dormammu chip- "nice dormammu dawg"

2. When dakou was going nuts- "put Dee Jay in marvel"

3. Shouting "5 golden letters" after every perfect

that crowd must have been pretty drunk.
 
haha, so eventhubs is doing their up/downvoting thing. To view a downvoted comment you need to click a link which uses javascript. If adblock is on and javascript is enabled, it takes over your full screen to tell you to turn adblock off.

So many ridiculous attempts for money. If they really want it so bad, make EH a subscription only service and see how many people bother. I'm not expecting many.
 
God damn it announce the UMVC3 invites/qualifiers already.

FChamp, ChrisG, Justin Wong, Flocker, PRRog, Nemo, Ranmasama (he wants that invite bad), KBR.

If they're limiting the field to eight, then the problem becomes who not to invite. It it's purely invite only, then everyone is going to debate the field of players, assuming they are looking for a mix of international and/or online presence.
 
Also wtf eventhubs

LMAO @ Eventhubs.

Also, #loleventhubs

Since start of the war of attrition with adblockers, the writing is on the wall for eventhubs. Not saying it's going under, but you're straight up saying that your old business model doesn't work.

Of course, introducing a new business model which inflames even more people doesn't seem to be the right way to go either.

Thing is that they might make more money using that model than they ever would with ads given the price disparity per conversion (whether it's a membership or a click/impression).

Jesus christ that is ridiculous.

Slightly better than the fox:

BVMCSdtCAAAL7TE.png:large


On the plus side, eventhubs added the ability to upvote and downvote comments, because obviously being more like reddit is what the site really needed

Up/down voting isn't strictly a Reddit feature, it's just the first to do it on such a large scale. The problem with it being implemented here as well as the SRK/IPW implementations (through Disqus) is that they just slapped it on and enabled the feature without leading the community on what the use should be.

As a result, they ended up with people upvoting and downvoting for no particular reason (which is fine, in a way). It's not that people should be forced to vote in a particular way, but if you want it to serve as a metric for something meaningful, you have to take the initiative and prepare your community for it.

The eight minutes that Catalyst used for describing why they need you to disable adblock (or fork over $20) would have been better spent telling the community what they hope to see in the voting, as well as what they would use it for.

Also, (and in the SRK/IPW implementations) they should have made the voting anonymous. Right now, people are really open to retaliation voting (especially on the SRK/IPW implementations).

Personally, I think the Stack Exchange model is the best (disclaimer, I'm a diamond mod on Stack Overflow, so, yeah, I'm biased).

I just hope that they don't try and sell this as a value-add for the $20 subscription. That kind of tech doesn't justify the cost.

I love how even in the justification video, the Eventhubs guy referred to the measures as draconian himself, and then went on to describe why that was okay.

Catalyst. I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he's so involved and passionate about what he's doing that he can't see the forest from the trees. It's difficult to accept that your passion isn't shaping up to be what you envisioned, and can lead to a doubling down on existing, ineffective strategies instead of adapting to the market and trying to find ways to come out ahead (even if it means getting out of the game).
 
Not to forget posting a bunch of tweets that say nothing and trying to squeeze a 3 paragraph article out of them.

Unfortunately, it's still the best, most frequent source for fighting game news, it's just plagued with also being the best, most frequent source for non-news.

We're ready to bring you on to report for One Frame Link when you are.
No, really.
 
That's exactly what they did do, but the big half-screen auto-play video ads meant a lot of people turned around and re-enabled it.



Does that mean they got rid of the aforementioned half-screen auto-play videos?

Hmm I haven't seen any since I removed adblock from their site. But I don't visit it that much, so they might be there, and I just haven't seen them
 
What's the alternative though? No one would deactivate their ad block if eventhubs had gone "hey guys, would you be nice and not use adblocks? thanks guys!"

Not like the ads on the site are very intrusive either. So I don't see the big deal. Only places i see the point of ad block is on sites like youtube or twitch. where the ads are super intrusive.

Instead folks will just go away, which is what is happening. Not to mention eventhubs is probably malware given the intrusiveness of the ads they do have.

The lack of a good general FG site is something that is hurting the FGC.

SRK had it right with their reputation system, as shitty as that was, e-peen makes people pay up in a way ads don'.
 
I did for $5 but thats because my card was gonna expire tomorrow and tomorrow the price of stuff was going to go up a lot. As far as the tips go, there is some legitimately good stuff in there but without game play footage its just not that impactful. If you don't play Marvel and don't play FChamps characters about half of the whole video is worthless to you. I mean yeah I guess you will get some data about Doom/Dorm weaknesses but the tutorials were mostly geared towards you using those characters versus you fighting them. Honestly I would be way more interested in Dormammu only FChamp mega tutorial like they sort of implied. The whole thing was just at times too broad/not specific for players who already play those games or other times too specific for newcomers. They should just focus on very specific character tutorials or game tutorials because I can't see anyone getting better from watching these. At best they will probably motivate you when you listen to FChamps training regimen and his road to becoming a top player, some surprising stuff as to how he got into the FGC.

The videos do cover some interesting topics like there was a whole section where FChamp explained "footsies" in Marvel and gave tri dashing as an example. He said that the major difference between SF and Marvel is that there is a big vertical plane you have to account for in Marvel and in Marvel better footsies lead to better advantage and set ups instead of getting direct damage off of punish. His example was that if one Magneto players does tri dash j.H and whiffs versus another Magneto who reactz with a properly spaced and times tri dash j.H of his own... the second Magneto player does not get a punish instead he makes the other Magneto player block the tri dash and be at a massive advantage in terms of set up and situation. Thats what footsies are in Marvel.. its movement and spacing leading into better advantage/set ups versus direct damage which is harder to understand for someone new to fighting games trying to apply the footsie definition to Marvel.
Is it worth the money ? I was curious but 5 dollars for a podcast is alot
 
Instead folks will just go away, which is what is happening. Not to mention eventhubs is probably malware given the intrusiveness of the ads they do have.

The lack of a good general FG site is something that is hurting the FGC.

SRK had it right with their reputation system, as shitty as that was, e-peen makes people pay up in a way ads don'.
Time for fgc gaf to branch out and make the good general fg site the people deserve
 
Time for fgc gaf to branch out and make the good general fg site the people deserve

Seriously, this is where I go for my FG stuff because everywhere else is crap, outside of specific game sites like VFDC when I was into VF or Skullheart for SG (which has kinda replaced VF for me these days)
 
Since start of the war of attrition with adblockers, the writing is on the wall for eventhubs. Not saying it's going under, but you're straight up saying that your old business model doesn't work.

Of course, introducing a new business model which inflames even more people doesn't seem to be the right way to go either.

Thing is that they might make more money using that model than they ever would with ads given the price disparity per conversion (whether it's a membership or a click/impression).



Slightly better than the fox:

BVMCSdtCAAAL7TE.png:large




Up/down voting isn't strictly a Reddit feature, it's just the first to do it on such a large scale. The problem with it being implemented here as well as the SRK/IPW implementations (through Disqus) is that they just slapped it on and enabled the feature without leading the community on what the use should be.

As a result, they ended up with people upvoting and downvoting for no particular reason (which is fine, in a way). It's not that people should be forced to vote in a particular way, but if you want it to serve as a metric for something meaningful, you have to take the initiative and prepare your community for it.

The eight minutes that Catalyst used for describing why they need you to disable adblock (or fork over $20) would have been better spent telling the community what they hope to see in the voting, as well as what they would use it for.

Also, (and in the SRK/IPW implementations) they should have made the voting anonymous. Right now, people are really open to retaliation voting (especially on the SRK/IPW implementations).

Personally, I think the Stack Exchange model is the best (disclaimer, I'm a diamond mod on Stack Overflow, so, yeah, I'm biased).

I just hope that they don't try and sell this as a value-add for the $20 subscription. That kind of tech doesn't justify the cost.



Catalyst. I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he's so involved and passionate about what he's doing that he can't see the forest from the trees. It's difficult to accept that your passion isn't shaping up to be what you envisioned, and can lead to a doubling down on existing, ineffective strategies instead of adapting to the market and trying to find ways to come out ahead (even if it means getting out of the game).

StackOverflow is awesome. I believe catalyst even has a neogaf account so it's possible for him to connect with us on this topic if he really wants
 
Hmm I haven't seen any since I removed adblock from their site. But I don't visit it that much, so they might be there, and I just haven't seen them

I've been F5'ing trying to get it to come up... so far nothing. If they did in fact change that, I'll gladly keep adblock disabled ... it was my only gripe.
 
Top Bottom