Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS Thread 2: Where Pilotwings is apparently Minecraft

Wasn't necessarily posting it for Smash's sake. It was mostly a response to saying most of Sonic's music is "trashy".

In between the Adventures and Sonic 06 was probably the weakest phase for the franchise musically. But even in that time period you can find gems.

Tons of gems if you ask me. There's hardly a song in Sonic Adventure 1, 2, or Heroes that I didn't like to some degree. And Live and Learn is just ridiculous good. :)
 
Due to unforeseen moe in Zelda: A Link Between Worlds, another Neoriceisgood avatar has been abandoned and is now up for grabs to whoever wants it:

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Sure, why not. Gotta keep that avatar going.
 
I must be the only one who hates the shit out of live and learn? It was probably at that very point I was playing the last boss and realized that the Sonic I grew up with had gone to shit.
 
IntelliHeath: Laughing Dog, Isaac, Dark Pit or Takamaru
ffdgh: Peach
KMD: Little Mac
Crab: Marth
Alistair Roo: Luigi
Azure J: Mike Jones
Shadow Hog: Sonic, or Tails (Because, Fuck Sonic.)
GiantEnemyGoomba: Shulk or X
PBAlfredo: Ness
Gleethor: Samus
Showmeyamoves: Captain Falcon
Red Arremer: Ridley's head
ScraftyDevil: Hades, Agent J, or Scrafty
dryuriev7777: Palutena
Kouichi: Waluigi
Ezalc: Matthew, or Ray 01 Legend/Mk II
BlakImpaler: Chrom, or Lucina
Kurtofan: Wario (classic)
PorygonVandal: Luigi [Second]
Codeblue: Ike
Javier: Lucario
JStein022: Tom Nook
Icelandic_Jazz: Mr. Game & Watch
Drago: Lucas, Balloon Villager or Wario (WarioWare)

Professor Beef: Kirby
Senator Soufflé: Chibi-Robo, or Dillon, if both didn't get in then King Dedede
SuperAngelo64: King Dedede [Second]
JBtheHunter: Pac-Man
NexusCell: Rosalina
MisterLuffy: Mario or Zero Suit Samus
Anth0ny: Sheik
AnkiRendan: Pokemon Trainer
Nocturnowl: Donkey Kong
BroBuzz: Ice Climbers
Diddy Kong: Diddy Kong, who else :P
Starphoenix: Waddle Dee
Poltergust: Yoshi
FUNKNOWN iXi: Master/Crazy Hand
NotLiquid: Wonderful 101/Wonder Red
Gonzo The Great: Tingle
Astrosanity: King K Rool or Toon Link
Dr.Thunder: Ganondorf
Cuban Legend: Red Bowser
Red Rudolph: Monster Hunter
BGBW: Geno, Goku or Haruka
JulianImp: Waluigi-Colored Luigi
Hasardeur: Tetra, Krystal, or Dixie Kong
Vermillion: Miyamoto's new IP
qq more: Squirtle

Troubled Bat: Medusa, Sami, Kumatora or Bowser Jr.
foxuzamaki: Fox
Regiruler: Arlon the Serene
Jagsrock: Mewtwo
Masked Man: Masked Man (Of course. :D), or Lucas [Second]
SuperSah: Metaknight
PK Gaming: Pit
Qurupeke: Rush
Zen_Arcade: Little Mac [Second]

Anybody I need to add?
 
I'm glad Sonic's back. He's a natural fit for Smash Bros, both for the character's history and because Sonic games sell like crazy on Nintendo platforms. Sonic vs Megaman is also a cool dynamic to have in the game, so I'm happy they're not trading in one must-have third party character for another.

Hopefully Sonic will have more diversity with his B moves and more knock-out moves. Those problems really held him back in Brawl. I like his speed and his ability to attack out of his Up-B, but the fact that none of his moves could finish the job except his forward smash (and OP final smash) was a big drag.
 
I must be the only one who hates the shit out of live and learn? It was probably at that very point I was playing the last boss and realized that the Sonic I grew up with had gone to shit.

I wouldn't know anything about that since live and learn is a hype thing to listen too.
 
Sonic announcement was great but him keeping the same boring moveset from Brawl killed it. First no new moves for Toon Link, Now Sonic... I believed you when you said there would be tons of new moves for old characters, Sakurai... :(
 
Yeah, gotta say that I'm firmly in the camp who thinks Sonic music is pretty great. Too bad that most of it probably wouldn't fit into the new stage very well. One of the reasons I was really pulling for non-series specific music for stages when Brawl's music stuff was announced so long ago.

Hopefully Sonic gets at least one new B move and maybe a little more kill potential in his other moves.
 
Hm, surprising.

Disappointing stage choice though, was hoping for something from the earlier Sonic games, not just whatever was most recent. Oh well.

I am getting the itch for a proper newcomer though. I am really thinking we may not get another until like E3 2014. Makes me wonder how few there actually are.
 
Sonic announcement was great but him keeping the same boring moveset from Brawl killed it. First no new moves for Toon Link, Now Sonic... I believed you when you said there would be tons of new moves for old characters, Sakurai... :(
I might be in the minority, but I like Sonic's "boring" moves. It's how I remember him from the '90s. I really don't want any recent gimmicks stinking up his move set.
 
I might be in the minority, but I like Sonic's "boring" moves. It's how I remember him from the '90s. I really don't want any recent gimmicks stinking up his move set.

It's not about gimmicks, it's about him doing something more viable and interesting than "spin this' and "spin that". It's all so limited and visually redundant.
 
Anybody I need to add?

Add me, if they do ever add a "Tales of" character, (will most likely be Lloyd Irving). Also Daisy and another odd call.....a rep from Soul Calibur 2, just going with gut feelings here guys calm down.


Now on to the Sonic reveal....I KNEW THEY WERE GONNA REVEAL SOMETHING! Neogaf has taught me to BELIEVE even in the darkest of times! I would of soooo won a avatar bet. xD

So glad Sonic is back. =3
 
Hm, surprising.

Disappointing stage choice though, was hoping for something from the earlier Sonic games, not just whatever was most recent. Oh well.

I am getting the itch for a proper newcomer though. I am really thinking we may not get another until like E3 2014. Makes me wonder how few there actually are.

I wouldn't be surprised if that happened, but I don't think it will. It would be sensible for Nintendo to have a Direct dedicated to Wii U titles for 2014 sometime late this/early next year, where they could show off a newcomer or two.
That said, there's more than enough veterans to bide their time with for now.
 
I wonder if Sonic got a 3DS stage, what would it even be based on?

Lost Worlds 3DS?

I might be in the minority, but I like Sonic's "boring" moves. It's how I remember him from the '90s. I really don't want any recent gimmicks stinking up his move set.

I think some of his old power ups could work as defensive moves. I just don't like tha most of his special set consist on same looking spin-dashes.
 
YES!! I'm so happy Sonic is in this game. I was wondering if Nintendo were going to announce him this month, but they did and much earlier than expected.
 
t's not bullshit if it's an opinion!

But yes, some of the older music was great, back in Genesis territory, but modern Sonic music is ass, full stop for me.
You stated it like it was fact!

But anyway, even among Modern Sonic, there's an awful lot of good tracks available to listen to. Even the trashier games manage to have good music. It's impressive.

(Also, Jesus Christ, Reddit. I had to wait most of today to post this. It's only a Half-Life 3 copyright, calm the hell down.)
 
It's not about gimmicks, it's about him doing something more viable and interesting than "spin this' and "spin that". It's all so limited and visually redundant.

It's boring on the surface level, but when you're playing with others and not being able to visually distinguish what exact move he's pulling out on you it gets at least a little interesting. Mindgames can be fun, though maybe Sonic shouldn't be the character best suited to that.
 
It's not about gimmicks, it's about him doing something more viable and interesting than "spin this' and "spin that". It's all so limited and visually redundant.

It's fine with me.

I just didn't like it because it made him a pretty weak character competitively.

I'm not really at all surprised that Sonic rolls into a ball a lot- he looks a lot normal doing that than punching and kicking.
And break dancing LOL.
 
Why do the all 3DS models look normal, while the Wii U models look warped and disfigured? It's starting to become more prevalent as more pictures are released.
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Here, Toonlink's chest looks weird.
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That Windy Hill zone "stage" doesn't look like a stage at all.

In fact, I'd say that it was part of the Adventure mode, like that Donkey Kong 3DS stage that we were shown in the first trailer.
 
Why do the all 3DS models look normal, while the Wii U models look warped and disfigured? It's starting to become more prevalent as more pictures are released.

They're just frames of animation. Go frame by frame in any CGI film (especially cartoon stylized ones) and you'll see a lot of stretching and skewing there too. It looks odd in stills, but fluid in motion.
 
That Windy Hill zone "stage" doesn't look like a stage at all.

In fact, I'd say that it was part of the Adventure mode, like that Donkey Kong 3DS stage that we were shown in the first trailer.

I felt same thing becasue it seem to be maze for some reason. We'll see when they reveal more pictures of the stage itself.
 
It's weird, because other shots make it look like it's part of the model while some don't.

It's like I could peel his mouth off...

His mouth being part of the texture and looking a bit off was something I was going to mention earlier but didn't because I thought it might sound petty and nit-picky, but I'm not 100% happy with his new character model. In some ways he looks a lot more like Sonic than he did in Brawl, but I don't know, I can't really put my finger on it.
 
Hey guys, it seems pokemon x/y is leaking, so can ya'll please refrain from posting any new pokemon in here you think should get in for us blackout folks?
 
Anyone else happy with just getting new footage of the new stages. Really can't wait to see more of the Pilotwings stage. The new Sonic stage looks great too.
 
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What's Link looking at? Whatever it is, it must be...pretty big.

I guess playable Ridley.

Hey guys, it seems pokemon x/y is leaking, so can ya'll please refrain from posting any new pokemon in here you think should get in for us blackout folks?

Leaks are not allowed here. If I see one then I will report to moderators and I'm pretty sure that they would hammer it down pretty fast.
 
I'm willing to bet that people who criticize Sonic music from modern games are just letting the game quality taint their opinion of the actually good music.
 
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What's Link looking at? Whatever it is, it must be...pretty big.

"Oh, that purple dragon's a stage hazard? Mmkay."

I'm willing to bet that people who criticize Sonic music from modern games are just letting the game quality taint their opinion of the actually good music.

I hated Sonic Heroes, but I kinda liked its soundtrack (aside from the theme song...why was it in the trailer WHHHHHHY). Can't really speak for Sonic 06/Unleashed since I haven't played them.
 
Sure, why not. Gotta keep that avatar going.

You're awesome! Also, welcome! Or at least I haven't seen you around. XP

Add me, if they do ever add a "Tales of" character, (will most likely be Lloyd Irving). Also Daisy and another odd call.....a rep from Soul Calibur 2, just going with gut feelings here guys calm down.

Alrighty, i'll get to it! :3

Can you add me for Lyndis if she gets in?

Of course!

Is it playable characters only? Or assist trophies/pokeballs too? If pokeballs too, throw me in for Sylveon.

Only playable characters. D:
 
Anyone claiming modern Sonic music sucks must not have played Unleashed or Colors. There's no way you can listen to those two and say to yourself, "This is shit." It's only this year that I finally played the post-2000 Sonic games, and the music was often the primary thing motivating me to continue.

I'm willing to bet that people who criticize Sonic music from modern games are just letting the game quality taint their opinion of the actually good music.

Or this.
 
Hey guys, it seems pokemon x/y is leaking, so can ya'll please refrain from posting any new pokemon in here you think should get in for us blackout folks?

....I better avoid the game room at the University until the game releases, thanks for the heads up. -.-

Also im happy they used the Sonic Heroes theme, was unexpected....Live and Learn is still a classic though. Now if Sonic were to bring someone else it would be his buddy Tails or Shadow.

Now the question is if they would still consider Bayonetta or not....highly doubtful now.
 
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There is no alt-text punchline this time.

Man if you don't like Sonic buttrock then you are no friend of mine.
You don't even have to like buttrock; that's mostly Jun Senoue's turf, and most of the latest soundtracks have been Tomoya Ohtani's turf (with help from Hideaki Kobayashi, Fumie Kumatani and Kenichi Tokoi - Tokoi being big on big brass bands, in particular, as you can tell from Terminal Velocity).
 
Alright, important discussion time.

....what Sonic music are they gonna include this time? It would be sweet if that Windy Hill music from Lost World made it in, considering that's what seems to be his stage this time around. City Escape also needs to be in.

There better be some Sonic Colors songs added in.

How about we just put in all the Colors music?

Tropical Resort Medley
Sweet Mountain Medley (With the lion's share being a Smash 4 extension of the Act 2 version)
Starlight Carnival Medley
Planet Wisp Medley (Most important one, every version of Planet Wisp is god tier music)
Asteroid Coaster Medley (eh, not as necessary as the rest)
Aquarium Park Medley (Another big one)
Terminal Velocity Medley (Because seriously.)
Reach For The Stars - Orchestral Version (Final Boss theme was too good)
 
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