Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS Thread 2: Where Pilotwings is apparently Minecraft

So what music do people want to be in Smash 4, then? I was just thinking of what Mega Man songs could be included, and there's a lot to choose from. Assuming we're limited to Classic, then aside from the more-or-less-already-confirmed "Skull Castle 1/2" from Mega Man 2, I think Bomb Man's theme from Mega Man [1], Skull Castle 3/4 from Mega Man 3, Dr. Cossack Stage 1/2 from Mega Man 4 Dark Man's Castle from Mega Man 5, the intro stage or Wily Stage 1 from Mega Man 7, any one of Tengu Man's themes from Mega Man 8 or Mega Man & Bass, the intro stage or Wily Stage 1 from Mega Man 8, the intro museum stage or King's stage theme from Mega Man & Bass, "We're the Robots" from Mega Man 9 and "Endless Struggle" should make it in. Admittedly, most of these are castle themes, but hell, it's a Wily stage anyway.

If we're not limited to that, there's tons more to choose from. Obvious choices for me would be the ruined highway or Sigma Stage 1 from X, the Flutter vs. Gesellschaft theme from Legends (used as Volnutt's theme in Tatsunoko vs. Capcom), Mega Man Battle Network's theme (remixed with a stage theme here for an Onimusha fighting game), "Departure" from Zero 2, "Green Grass Gradation" or "Black Burn" from ZX, et cetera.

Also, Snake has to make it in. The only thing I know for real is that the rules of nature state it has to be this way. "Mercenary" might also be nice to have. I'd be great if we could properly have the Metal Gear Solid theme; shame about the legal issues.

With regards to Sonic, I hope they focus less on the vocal themes and more on stage themes. Having almost nothing but vocal themes in Brawl was highly disappointing; we can do so much better than that, in all honesty, without resorting to using them. And that's just the more recent titles; we can look further back. Hell, it's a Lost World stage, use Lost World's theme! (That probably wasn't what you were expecting! These two probably are, and are shoe-ins.)

Other than that, I really hope there's a Xenoblade stage (even if there's not a character). The music's too good to pass up on. "Gaur Plains", "Colony 9", some of the battle themes, "Engage the Enemy", "Unfinished Battle"...

Looking more at this series proper - Smash Bros. itself - either of the Break the Targets themes that weren't Brawl's would be appreciated, or something that's similarly catchy, sporty and energetic (sorry, Brawl's circus music didn't do it for me). Also, while I expect both of the Final Destination themes from Melee and Brawl to return, the N64 rendition would be nice to see return, just for how different it is. Maybe the N64 Battlefield theme, too... or for something that doesn't have a corresponding Melee/Brawl stage, Meta Crystal should be used for every Metal <Character> theme in Classic Mode, or perhaps Meta Crystal should be made a stage proper (as kinda unremarkable as it is).

So yeah, if you actually listened to all that, I applaud you. If you didn't, click a few random links, you might be pleasantly surprised. But regardless, that's what kind of music I want to see; what kind of music do you want?
 
Yep, Snake is the only character I see being cut at this point. Not for development time reasons, but because of Snake's irrelevancy on Nintendo platforms and Nintendo possibly seeing it as an advertisement for a competing console's game.

If there's any reason Snake's getting cut, it's not that.

Metal Gear Solid 5 has made the series too Hollywood for Smash Brothers.

d that's just the more recent titles; we can look further back. Hell, it's a Lost World stage, use Lost World's theme! (That probably wasn't what you were expecting! These two probably are, and are shoe-ins.)

I'm still shocked that we're getting a Lost World stage. I could have sworn since Smash likes to pull from previous generations that we'd get a Colors or Generations stage.

Wonder if that means we'll get a 3D World stage alongside the Galaxy one.
 

Kiefer Sutherland will not do Smash Brothers. David Hayter is fired and Konami won't allow him to voice Snake or Big Boss. Metal Gear is changing for better or worse.

Why did they make those things sound like cows, anyway? lmao


Because there are drones that actually sound like cows.

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Damn that's a lot of links there Shadow Hog, I just nabbed me some Terminal Velocity on a random click.
Sonic's music selection in Brawl was pretty pants, due to the timing of his insertion I figure they didn't have any time to remix anything for the series but they still could have done a lot better than the glut of vocal tracks.

Listing the music i'd consider for a new smash game is a pretty gargantuan task, I'd prefer to tackle it on a series by series basis, perhaps at some point closer to the games release I'd try this with a few choices for a franchise each day. One thing worth considering is remix potential, some themes could really use a nice brushing up from their origins so a few more GBA game remixes could be interesting. And of course being me this means I totally want some DKC3 GBA stuff.
 
Kiefer Sutherland will not do Smash Brothers.
Kiefer Sutherland's the new voice of Big Boss. As far as we know, Solid Snake isn't featured in MGSV. And besides, there's no evidence to suggest that Sutherland would turn down Smash Bros. He starred in a TV show ten years ago and has done nothing of note since then. He's not exactly an A-list movie star.

David Hayter is fired and Konami won't allow him to voice Snake or Big Boss.
Source? Why can't Hayter come back for Smash Bros.?
 
Today's Picture makes me excited about how great this game will look on the gamepad. Not so sure about a 60" tv, on the other hand; worried about the jaggies that have been prevalent in the 1920x1080 screenshots.
 
I think the fact that Hayter is so upset about losing his job on Twitter and has stated he won't even play MGS5 is a big indicater he's not coming back to the series...
He was pretty obviously joking in those Tweets. The fans were overreacting and he was just having fun with it. There are always going to be Metal Gear spinoffs and remakes and things like that, and obviously Kiefer isn't going to participate in all of those. There's no reason to assume David Hayter has been inexplicably blacklisted from the series. And, again, Big Boss is in MGSV, not Solid Snake.
 
“So, by no means, am I tired of it,” Aonuma reiterates with a laugh. “Rather, the more we change it, the more I get fired up. Having someone think ‘Huh? Is this Zelda?!’ at first, then ‘Oh, it is Zelda,’ is what we’re going for. Something that wouldn’t make it matter whether Link or Princess Zelda appear in it or not. Something where it wouldn’t even matter if Zelda is actually a princess, or not.”

Saw this quote from an interview by the legend of zelda director concerning the new wii u zelda - I stand by my idea, having zelda/sheik be the main protagonist with the ability to switch between those two personas. Maybe they could coincide her (and her) announcement in smash for the zelda reveal next year?
 
He was pretty obviously joking in those Tweets. The fans were overreacting and he was just having fun with it. There are always going to be Metal Gear spinoffs and remakes and things like that, and obviously Kiefer isn't going to participate in all of those. There's no reason to assume David Hayter has been inexplicably blacklisted from the series. And, again, Big Boss is in MGSV, not Solid Snake.

I sure hope he was joking. If he has, then it's lasted way too long and fans deserve an answer.
 
So what music do people want to be in Smash 4, then? I was just thinking of what Mega Man songs could be included, and there's a lot to choose from.


With regards to Sonic, I hope they focus less on the vocal themes and more on stage themes.

From Mega Man, please include Bubble Man from MM2 and Snake Man from MM3, or maybe just the actual boss theme from MM3. For Sonic, it has to be Can You Feel The Sunshine?, right?
 
I really love the enhanced color brightness and vibrancy of the Wii U title, although I will miss the more detailed models of the Brawl version. Man if they married the two, I'd be in heaven.
 
Okay I remember there is an article that would mention how many percent of development time have been spend on SSE by percent and all that. I would like the source and information.

Was it 70% right?
 
Looking at Sonic's pics on the Smash Bros site, it looks like his Homing Attack will have that same funky elliptical trajectory :-( .........I sure hope this game can be hacked like Brawl cause Project M and their changes have spoiled the shit outta me. Its gonna feel even more weird playing with everyone I used to all over again, on top of whatever tweaks, nerfs and buffs Sakurai plans to make this go round.
 
Looking at Sonic's pics on the Smash Bros site, it looks like his Homing Attack will have that same funky elliptical trajectory :-( .........I sure hope this game can be hacked like Brawl cause Project M and their changes have spoiled the shit outta me. Its gonna feel even more weird playing with everyone I used to all over again, on top of whatever tweaks, nerfs and buffs Sakurai plans to make this go round.

Well you can just keep playing Brawl if you don't want anything changed...
 
Looking at Sonic's pics on the Smash Bros site, it looks like his Homing Attack will have that same funky elliptical trajectory :-( .........I sure hope this game can be hacked like Brawl cause Project M and their changes have spoiled the shit outta me. Its gonna feel even more weird playing with everyone I used to all over again, on top of whatever tweaks, nerfs and buffs Sakurai plans to make this go round.

I agree, so many of the little tweaks and nuances in project m just makes the game feel so much better/smoother. It is going to be a little jarring to go back to the characters if they are unchanged from how they felt in brawl. Hoping the little tweaks sakurai has mentioned with a couple characters applies to all the cast
 
Well you can just keep playing Brawl if you don't want anything changed...

I don't mind change but I'm saying its just gonna feel weird cause i'm so used to the Project M changes. Sonic's Homing Attack on Project M I WILL miss because it was horrible in Brawl and it looks like it may be returning for Smash U, so I guess that's something I've have to deal with lol.
 
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