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[Sigmaah]

I'm with ya, I also think it looks really shitty

I just don't see how ppl can "praise" Hawlucha but hate Delphox or Chesnaught... They're way better designs than Hawlucha imo, but opinion is opinion.

These starters are probably my favorite out of all starters. (Probably tied with Gen 4) They're refreshing and unique. We got a water/dark frog ninja, a fire/psychic Mage fox, and we got a grass/fighting knight. HOW IS THAT NOT DOPE? I don't mind the minor complaints on them, not everything's perfect but some ppl are downright destroying these starters for how they turned out. Compare last Gen starters to this Gen starters.....Yeah.

 

[-Horizon-]

Post game you go to Hoenn

Spoiler

believe!

 

[Toxi]

A horde of Wobbufett is a special kind of hell.

 

[Lord_Byron28]

It's a really nice change not to just see "normal normal normal bug normal normal electric flying", etc.

Yeah I mean even pokes like Axew and Bagon are available fairly early on in the game.

I don't get the "no-postgame" rumor. Does that mean that once the E4 and the Evil Team are beaten, there's nothing left? Even the least robust entries in the series have had some things to do afterwards.

With all of the things GameFreak is putting into these titles, it's hard to believe that they would just stop at the postgame.

The person who said this also said he didn't look to deeply into it and its possibke he missed it.

Fire types always got shafted in terms of availability until Gen 5.

Gen 1 had a good selection with Charmander, Growlithe, Ponyta, Flareon, Vulpix, Magmar and Moltres.

 

[spindashing]

Post game you go to Hoenn

Spoiler

believe!

That would be fun, actually. Hoenn with this style would look beautiful.

 

[Gonzo The Great]

Any word on whether or not Granbull has undergone a type change? Not only is it in the Fairy egg group, but it is classified as the "Fairy Pokemon." Game Freak can't be that stupid... can they?

 

[ffdgh]

Post game you go to Hoenn

Spoiler

believe!

And you get there by surfing.

 

[Mik317]

They are.

And Zubat returns... IN HORDE!

There is no God.

They will spam confuse Ray and watch you slowly hit yourself to death.

Fuck life

 

[Espada]

The VS. Seeker is one of the reasons Platinum beats out HG/SS for me.

Yup, Platinum had oodles of features that I sorely miss (and hope are brought back). So much more enjoyable to play than HGSS.

Man, the idea of new moves with effects similar to Flying Press and Amaura's ice attack is wild. It really changes the game.

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

Hmm, so...

Serperior < Meganium < Venusaur < Chesnaught < Sceptile < Torterra
Delphox < Typhlosion < Charizard < Infernape < Blaziken < Emboar
Samurott < Feraligatr < Blastoise < Empoleon < Swamper < Greninja (for this the Water Starters are all around equal, they're the best set imo)

Any word on whether or not Granbull has undergone a type change? Not only is it in the Fairy egg group, but it is classified as the "Fairy Pokemon." Game Freak can't be that stupid... can they?

Someone said Clefairy is still Normal iirc, so...

 

[-Horizon-]

And you get there by surfing.

You think that would make me scared?! Those Wingull and Tentacool hordes ain't got nothing on me!

 

[Dr. Buni]

I just don't see how ppl can "praise" Hawlucha but hate Delphox or Chesnaught... They're way better designs than Hawlucha imo, but opinion is opinion..

I actually think the three of them have great designs (Hawlucha and the two mentioned starters)

Post game you go to Hoenn

Spoiler

believe!

I'd rather go to Sinnoh tbh and visit Gen III properly in remakes.

 

[Mik317]

Someone said Clefairy is still Normal iirc, so...

Wat....

That is pretty dumb if true.

 

[todd360]

16 badge surprise for this game would be so good. I believe in post game! Believe!

 

[michaeltraps]

I actually think the three of them have great designs (Hawlucha and the two mentioned starters)

I'd rather go to Sinnoh tbh and visit Gen III properly in remakes.

Didn't one of the leakers say that Sinnoh is mentioned a bunch in the beginning of the game? Ideal situation: Sinnoh (or small parts of it) post-game, Hoenn remakes next.

 

[-Horizon-]

Didn't one of the leakers say that Sinnoh is mentioned a bunch in the beginning of the game? Ideal situation: Sinnoh (or small parts of it) post-game, Hoenn remakes next.

If this is how Matsuda gets Cynthia involved somehow...

 

[Watch Da Birdie]

Didn't one of the leakers say that Sinnoh is mentioned a bunch in the beginning of the game? Ideal situation: Sinnoh (or small parts of it) post-game, Hoenn remakes next.

But so is Unova, you even see statues of Zekrom and Reshiram outside the Palace of Versailles area.

 

[Espada]

Didn't one of the leakers say that Sinnoh is mentioned a bunch in the beginning of the game? Ideal situation: Sinnoh (or small parts of it) post-game, Hoenn remakes next.

Sinnoh is mentioned at least 10-12 times in B2W2. Hell, some NPCs say that Unova and Kalos had contact in the past, and there are Reshiram and Zekrom statutes. I wouldn't jump to conclusions based off of something like that.

 

[DMG-01]

Super safe prediction: You won't visit any other regions in post-game.

I'm honestly fine with a sparse post-game as long as I get my Battle Subway equivalent. I generally never do hardly any of the post-game legendary hunts anyway.

 

[Mr-Joker]

Post game you go to Hoenn

Spoiler

believe!

God no, Game Freak shown that they can't create a game with two region without butchering both regions.

Jotho would have been much better had Kanto not been shoehorned in.

Didn't one of the leakers say that Sinnoh is mentioned a bunch in the beginning of the game? Ideal situation: Sinnoh (or small parts of it) post-game, Hoenn remakes next.

They do that in almost every Pokémon game, barring gen 1 for obvious reason.

 

[Malvingt2]

any news about a new evo of Eevee?

 

[theprodigy]

If this is how Matsuda gets Cynthia involved somehow...

lol

Spoiler

what's wrong with that

 

[Dr. Buni]

I don't believe we will get two regions in XY, but I admit I would really like that. Yeah, Johto was poorly developed thanks to GSC having two regions, but that doesn't mean the same would happen again. That would actually explain why Nintendo is going that far in order to stop the leakers.

Also, if anyone is still doubting Greninja, a video of Frogadier evolving: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsPRg8eVoFE

 

[PK Gaming]

Hmm, so...

Serperior < Meganium < Venusaur < Chesnaught < Sceptile < Torterra
Delphox < Typhlosion < Charizard < Infernape < Blaziken < Emboar
Samurott < Feraligatr < Blastoise < Empoleon < Swamper < Greninja (for this the Water Starters are all around equal, they're the best set imo)



Someone said Clefairy is still Normal iirc, so...

LOL

Clefairy got robbed

 

[Lord_Byron28]

I don't believe we will get two regions in XY, but I admit I would really like that. Yeah, Johto was poorly developed thanks to GSC having two regions, but that doesn't mean the same would happen again. That would actually explain why Nintendo is going that far in order to stop the leakers.

Also, if anyone is still doubting Greninja, a video of Frogadier evolving: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsPRg8eVoFE

GF said in an interview leading up to B/W2 that they weren't going to be doing the second region post gane again and that instead they will focus on the region they are currently in. Hence why Kalos is a massive region and after you defeat the E4 in Gen 5 the other half of the map unlocks.

 

[UberTag]

any news about a new evo of Eevee?

What type of Eevee are you looking to see added?
So far we've got Normal, Grass, Ice, Electric, Water, Fire, Psychic, Dark and Fairy.
That just leaves Fighting, Poison, Ground, Flying, Bug, Rock, Ghost, Dragon and Steel.

I'm guessing everyone wants a Dragon-type, right?

 

[Malvingt2]

What type of Eevee are you looking to see added?
So far we've got Normal, Grass, Ice, Electric, Water, Fire, Psychic, Dark and Fairy.
That just leaves Fighting, Poison, Ground, Flying, Bug, Rock, Ghost, Dragon and Steel.

I'm guessing everyone wants a Dragon-type, right?

I would not mind Ground or Ghost.

 

[HypnoDarkrai]

Does Clefairy being a holo-foil in Xerneas' half-deck make it a Fairy type?
The description says that Xerneas' deck is centered around Fairies.

Spoiler

I know Delta Species had Pokemon with different types

http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Japanese_Xerneas,_Yveltal_Half_Decks_announced_for_January

 

[Wilbur]

D.W.A. FOR LIFE

 

[Lord_Byron28]

Hmm, so...

Serperior < Meganium < Venusaur < Chesnaught < Sceptile < Torterra
Delphox < Typhlosion < Charizard < Infernape < Blaziken < Emboar
Samurott < Feraligatr < Blastoise < Empoleon < Swamper < Greninja (for this the Water Starters are all around equal, they're the best set imo)



Someone said Clefairy is still Normal iirc, so...

I refuse to believe that Jigglypuff, Marril, Mawile, etc. Get fairy retypings but Clefairy doesn't.

What type of Eevee are you looking to see added?
So far we've got Normal, Grass, Ice, Electric, Water, Fire, Psychic, Dark and Fairy.
That just leaves Fighting, Poison, Ground, Flying, Bug, Rock, Ghost, Dragon and Steel.

I'm guessing everyone wants a Dragon-type, right?

Yeah its the last "special" type in the physical/special split of Gen 1-3 to not have an eeveelution and eeveelutions are introduced in pairs with one always weak to the other.

 

[Dr. Buni]

GF said in an interview leading up to B/W2 that they weren't going to be doing the second region post gane again and that instead they will focus on the region they are currently in. Hence why Kalos is a massive region and after you defeat the E4 in Gen 5 the other half of the map unlocks.

Well, as long as Kalos isn't disappointing like Unova was, I don't mind never having a second region again. Although I wouldn't take what GF said that seriously, they can always much change their minds.

 

[-Horizon-]

lol

Spoiler

what's wrong with that

Nothing wrong with it

Spoiler

the Cynthia saga continues as she travels across time and space

 

[Dr. Randy Marsh]

What type of Eevee are you looking to see added?
So far we've got Normal, Grass, Ice, Electric, Water, Fire, Psychic, Dark and Fairy.
That just leaves Fighting, Poison, Ground, Flying, Bug, Rock, Ghost, Dragon and Steel.

I'm guessing everyone wants a Dragon-type, right?

Dragon, Steel (cyborg Eevee), and Flying (a griffin without the beak).

 

[strangedopamine]

Nothing wrong with it

Spoiler

the Cynthia saga continues as she travels across time and space

Spoiler

Dawn/Lucas gave Cynthia their Dialga and Palkia then. That explains a lot.

 

[spindashing]

My post game always consists of me finding a good battle team, really. I won't be upset if there is a small post game.

 

[NeonZ]

God no, Game Freak shown that they can't create a game with two region without butchering both regions.

Jotho would have been much better had Kanto not been shoehorned in.

How do we know that? Aside from the size of the region itself, which likely could be increased if there had been no Kanto, Johto suffers from clear balance problems regarding levels of trainers and wild Pokemon. The later, which is much more important, likely wouldn't be solved if there had been no Kanto, because the people designing the game still would be the same.

 

[Wilbur]

My post game always consists of me finding a good battle team, really. I won't be upset if there is a small post game.

Do people not just battle with their favourite Pokemon? Obviously if your favourite is Magikarp you're fucked :lol, but I'd find it hard to train a team that were theoretically fantastic in battle situations but I just plain didn't like.

Everyone loves Blaziken, I can't stand him. Couldn't use him.

Maybe I should stick to beating my little brother and not online play loool

 

[Lord_Byron28]

How do we know that? Aside from the size of the region itself, which likely could be increased if there had been no Kanto, Johto suffers from clear balance problems regarding levels of trainers and wild Pokemon. The later, which is much more important, likely wouldn't be solved if there had been no Kanto, because the people designing the game still would be the same.

The trainer/wild pokemon levels were so low because Kanto existed. They kept them down so low to make room for Kanto. Hence why every gen before and after gen 2 has a much more normal level curve.

 

[R0ckman]

I know a lot of people like to hate on Blue, but to me he's way better than Cynthia, she's like a celebrity that people try and force you to care about, but you just... Can't. It would be more fun if Blue traveled the world trying to troll other trainers because he couldn't defeat red. Yet we keep getting these reject Champions like Steven Stone and Cynthia, basically born into Championism, shoved down our throats.

Or a sub story of a champion that uses a team of all legendaries only to find out the trainers is an illusion along with most of his mons and is used by a dark or ghost type that feeds on the misery of his defeated trainers; their hopes and dreams crushed.

 

[Malvingt2]

Dragon, Steel (cyborg Eevee), and Flying (a griffin without the beak).

I like this one a lot

 

[Dr. Buni]

I think Cynthia is far more interesting than Blue. I don't hate him, though, I think he is still better than Lance, the crappy Gen 3 champions and Iris (I love her design, but the character herself is meh at best), but I definitely wouldn't want to see him in every game. I am really hoping the XY champion is as strong and memorable as Cynthia (and I also the champion is a she).

 

[Boss Doggie]

I know a lot of people like to hate on Blue, but to me he's way better than Cynthia, she's like a celebrity that people try and force you to care about, but you just... Can't. It would be more fun if Blue traveled the world trying to troll other trainers because he couldn't defeat red. Yet we keep getting these reject Champions like Steven Stone and Cynthia, basically born into Championism, shoved down our throats.

Or a sub story of a champion that uses a team of all legendaries only to find out the trainers is an illusion along with most of his mons and is used by a dark or ghost type that feeds on the misery of his defeated trainers; their hopes and dreams crushed.

That's what you get for making Blue/Green into a gym leader

Cynthia and Steven have an excuse because they work as archeologists.

 

[DMG-01]

Just finished The Origin. My thoughts:

Spoiler

Other than the weird pacing (which is understandable given the amount of content they had to cover in 4 episodes) and the Charizard worship, it was really quite good. I especially enjoyed all of the retro throwbacks like the game text, the DMG-01 bezel surrounding the credits, and the redone OST.

But man, I really wish I had the full version of Gary's Green's theme. Sogood.gif

 

[theprodigy]

I know a lot of people like to hate on Blue, but to me he's way better than Cynthia, she's like a celebrity that people try and force you to care about, but you just... Can't. It would be more fun if Blue traveled the world trying to troll other trainers because he couldn't defeat red. Yet we keep getting these reject Champions like Steven Stone and Cynthia, basically born into Championism, shoved down our throats.

Or a sub story of a champion that uses a team of all legendaries only to find out the trainers is an illusion along with most of his mons and is used by a dark or ghost type that feeds on the misery of his defeated trainers; their hopes and dreams crushed.

boo this man
(Blue is cool though)

 

[Quest1]

Do people not just battle with their favourite Pokemon? Obviously if your favourite is Magikarp you're fucked :lol, but I'd find it hard to train a team that were theoretically fantastic in battle situations but I just plain didn't like.

Everyone loves Blaziken, I can't stand him. Couldn't use him.

Maybe I should stick to beating my little brother and not online play loool

On Showdown at least, I use a squad made up of pokes I like, one of which is Arcanine, and I do fairly well in OU. That said, I also like Gengar and Salamence, so that helps haha.

Also, Blue as champion > Cynthia. At least he earned it.

 

[Macka]

I seem to be the only one who doesn't like Hawlucha and it's design, pretty shitty imo from the pics I've seen, might be better once I can see it clearly though. It just doesn't look that interesting.

I'm not a fan either tbh. Boring and he doesn't even evolve.

 

[Dr. Randy Marsh]

Cynthia will make her way to Smash Bros. next. Switch between Garchomp, Lucario, and herself with Down B. Milotic/Roserade/Togekiss are her Neutral/Side/Up B and Spiritomb is used for blocking. Mega Garchomp/Mega Lucario/Mega Cynthia for Final Smash.

 

[NeonZ]

The trainer/wild pokemon levels were so low because Kanto existed. They kept them down so low to make room for Kanto. Hence why every gen before and after gen 2 has a much more normal level curve.

But the overall curve itself was broken in the end, even including Kanto. If it had been just a matter of Johto having lower levels than other regions, it wouldn't be an actual problem, since you'd still have Kanto to fill that second half. The problem is that even once you add Kanto, the balance doesn't match the other games.

 

[theprodigy]

Cynthia will make her way to Smash Bros. next. Switch between Garchomp, Lucario, and herself with Down B. Milotic/Roserade/Togekiss are her Neutral/Side/Up B and Spiritomb is used for blocking. Mega Garchomp/Mega Lucario/Mega Cynthia for Final Smash.

lmao 10/10 moveset

 

[Dr. Buni]

Cynthia will make her way to Smash Bros. next. Switch between Garchomp, Lucario, and herself with Down B. Milotic/Roserade/Togekiss are her Neutral/Side/Up B and Spiritomb is used for blocking. Mega Garchomp/Mega Lucario/Mega Cynthia for Final Smash.

Make it happen, Sakurai