Pokemon X and Y Leaks, Releases Early

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Speaking of Lucario and Zoroark. Seems we didn't really get an equivalent to them this gen.

Good. I hated when they made a 'normal' Pokémon special. Here's a Rioulu egg that will become Lucario. He's super badass because of marketing reasons. Look how cool he is. He's like Goku!

Here's Zoroark. He's like what would happen if we tried to make Lucario again but cooler looking. Here is a movie on why he's so awesome.
 
I can't wait to see this gen's Mew. Ose normally come towards the end, so there's still hope!

By the way, I defy anyone to find any legendaries worse than Azelf/Mesprit/Uxie.
 
BTW, does anyone have the regional dex pastebins?

I need to see if ralts is catchable in the wild or if I have to go through some bullshit trading thing like in B/W2.
This is actually invaluable info. Hopefully we'll still get some attention focused on the regional dexes now that all of the new Kalos pokemon have leaked so we know which prior gen pokemon failed to make the cut and will need to be sought out elsewhere.
 
Is it just me or was black 1>black 2. I mean there were some great parts in black 2 (especially team plasma) but at the end i felt kind of meh. Maybe it's because i sped through the game.

After X, SoulSillver is going to be my sole pokemon fix. Lost my cartridge but that version was goat, definitely going to rebuy or trade in my black 2. Red's pikachu ripped my team couldn't beat him
 
I'll be happy if there isn't an obscene number of legendaries this time. Make a smaller amount and make them look good and unique.

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Legendary designs really went to shit in Gen V aside from the box mascots and maybe Genesect
 
I can't wait to see this gen's Mew. Ose normally come towards the end, so there's still hope!

By the way, I defy anyone to find any legendaries worse than Azelf/Mesprit/Uxie.

Given how we don't have the "benefit" of hacked games this gen, it'll be some time before we start to see the event only pokemon. Probably stuff from the movie after the Xernas/Yveltal one. Heck, who knows, maybe they need to actually patch in event only pokeon now so we couldn't even hack it?
 
Amusingly enough, he's the only one I like out of the three/four.



Prior to HG/SS, Johto was:

1. The smallest region. From edge to edge, it was smaller than RBY Kanto.
2. The least diverse region. There were remarkably few new Pokemon in Johto itself, so you ended up running into the same cavefuls of Geodude and Zubat while you did your best to evade swarms of Nidoran and Pidgeys in the grass.
3. The easiest region. The highest level Pokemon on Lance's team was level 50. And once you did hit the postgame Kanto, everything was easier still.
4. The most compromised region. Because they made a point of including Kanto, they cut back on Johto's size (and then cut out most of Kanto's interesting locales just because there wasn't enough map space and development time).

The tradeoff for including a whole region in the postgame soured the entire experience.

to me it increased the expirienced...again as I stated above maybe its ust my nostalgia acting up but it was great to just explore Kanto; and to see the aftermath of the events that occurred in R/B/Y. And it was before I was internet savy so it completely caught my off guard(was only 9 at the time)

also I guess I will always have a bias towards Gen II as it holds my favorite pokemon; Espeon :)
 
Gen 3 had the best legendaries. The weather trio were all cool. The regis were fun to find. They need to make more legendary catching things like finding the Regis.
 
Is it just me or was black 1>black 2. I mean there were some great parts in black 2 (especially team plasma) but at the end i felt kind of meh. Maybe it's because i sped through the game.

I definitely enjoyed White over White 2. I think some it's because they incorporated the defeat of the evil team with the end of the game, which I really liked. In White 2, Team Plasma's end and N's return was so abrupt and anticlimatic.

Gen 3 had the best legendaries. The weather trio were all cool. The regis were fun to find. They need to make more legendary catching things like finding the Regis.

Yaass, I agree. Back then, I didn't look up Pokemon details online and how to get all the legendaries and stuff and I accidentally stumbled upon Regice like 2 years after I beat Ruby and was blown away that I hadn't discovered it before.
 
I'll be happy if there isn't an obscene number of legendaries this time. Make a smaller amount and make them look good and unique.

Legendary designs really went to shit in Gen V aside from the box mascots and maybe Genesect

The box trio may be the worst of all of them, don't know if they are fucking mechas or pokemon. But well, Gen V focus was industrialization and a "modern" world so...

Miss the organic look of legendaries, but pokemon X seems to be in the right path with Xerneas and Yveltal :)
 
Gen 3 had the best legendaries. The weather trio were all cool. The regis were fun to find. They need to make more legendary catching things like finding the Regis.

I like the idea of event pokeon being puzzles to find, like the regis were. The regis themselves look kind of terrible, but finding them was cool. The Weather Trio are god tier main legendaries, especialy Kyogre.
 
That bold part is interesting. In what way? This gen is a massive homage to the first generation above all else, something that several leakers have commented on. Lots of stuff there meant to tickle nostalgia.

I'm okay with the small number of new pokemon since a slew of my favorites are present in-game for me to enjoy.

XI has been a huge mish-mash as far as things are concerned, but every gen has some thematic similarities with the mainline release two generations prior to it. For the original four generations, the even and odd games actually ran in concurrent times to one another. Roughly speaking, the mainline game timeline is:

Original "Discontinued" Timeline:
RBY > Three Years > GSC

Current Timeline:
FRLG / RSE > Three Years > HGSS / DPPt > Several Years > BW > Two Years > BW2

RSE had a ton of shout-outs to the original games, such as reverting to a red / blue legendary color scheme, a completely new region, etc. Gen III also contained the RBY remakes.

DPPt likewise was influenced heavily by GSC, with some sparse references throughout - ultimately culminating in the remakes, HGSS.

BW (Gen V) had a ton of shout-outs to RSE (Gen III) and by extension Gen I. Some examples include as the return of Dive, an incredibly high new Pokemon count that mostly consists of original species, and Volbeat / Illumise and Huntail / Gorebyss are version exclusives.

XY's exact timeline is unknown, but it seems likely that it'll run concurrent with BW to start a new "distant future" generational couple. Regardless, some of XY's similarities to DPPt (Gen IV) include the French-looking outfits of the protagonists (more evident in Platinum) and by extension the climate, DPPt's battle music sounding particularly French in instrumentation, Fantina getting a spiritual successor in the form of this new Psychic Elite Four girl, etc.

XY also complicates things even further because of how high the generation count is getting: while BW serves as a shout-out to RSE and is similar to RBY in form and function, XY is likewise a shout-out to DPPt and similar to GSC; while year, BW2 existed, they served as more of a personal story for the region or an epilogue of sorts for Black and White. XY looks to be a more formal "sequel" to BW due to the more minute Pokemon count, adding a variety of new tricks for old pokes, and so on.

EDIT: unrelated, but at the disappoint around Sylveon being a one-off: I think the point they're trying to make here is that Fairy isn't designed as a supplementary type the way Dark and Steel originally started out - it's fully forced itself into the metagame, and the boatload of new Fairy-types and its impressive relations to other types show. It's meant to complete the trinity of Jolteon / Flareon / Vaporeon and turn it into a full-fledged, even number.
 
I wouldn't mind only-70 if they actually cracked down and made it the best 70 they could. But when they put out crap like Binacle and more Gen5 inanimate-object Pokemon I don't know what they're thinking.
Yeah Kyogre, Groudon and Rayquaza are the best legendary trios

So good

R/S also came with Deoxys, my favorite legendary. 3rd gen best gen.
 
Keldeo is so forgettable, I thought he was a normal pokemon that got an event only form. Meloetta is just blah. Yeah, aside from Genesect, Gen V was terrible for event pokemon.

I actually like Meloetta a lot. She's based on a neat concept and being able to change forme in battle with her was really cool, if kinda dangerous.

Keldeo's boring as fuck though. Resolute forme almost made him acceptable, almost.
 
I'll be happy if there isn't an obscene number of legendaries this time. Make a smaller amount and make them look good and unique.



Legendary designs really went to shit in Gen V aside from the box mascots and maybe Genesect

Wow, I just noticed that Uxie, Azelf, and Mesprit match each of the Creation trio. It makes sense given their role.
 
Well, Zoroark failed to replicate Lucario's popularity so I guess they decided to just go with Mega Lucario.

Maybe because they wouldn't even let us have one until BW2. What a weird experiment that was.

How? When people think Im nuts for thinking the regis look like shitty middle school doodles?

The JUSTICE trio look ok as Pokemon, but look underwhelming as legendaries. Not to mention their whole theme is a little strange. Why would Pokemon care about justice? The kami trio look like guys you'd fight in Final Fantasy, not to mention they are just straight up Japanese gods in terms of design. Their beast forms were only marginally better. The Regi trio is great. They all share an aesthetic theme yet are still really different from each other. Not to mention their back story ties in well with the other legendaries (the whole theme about the creation of the earth).
 
I wouldn't mind only-70 if they actually cracked down and made it the best 70 they could. But when they put out crap like Binacle and more Gen5 inanimate-object Pokemon I don't know what they're thinking.


R/S also came with Deoxys, my favorite legendary. 3rd gen best gen.
Sorry, that's something that started long before Gen 5.
 
I'm the opposite. I'm tired of flying/bird legendaries. They've been done to death.

Xerneas looks really cool.

How can you hate a majestic deer?

Also probably the most unique legendary for a long time now.

I think a land animal based legendary is a neat concept, but Xerneas is such a bland execution of that idea. Also, being from Michigan I see deer as more of a menace than something cool.

Talk of the Weather trio, I honestly don't think GF will top those legendaries for me. Kyogre is my Pikachu. He's my boy. He's been with me through every pokemon game since Sapphire. He's one of the few pokeon of mind I have really kept track of and recognize. Dude is just awesome.
 
Worst legendaries are the pixies, tied with Keldeo, Victini and Meloetta.
 
XI has been a huge mish-mash as far as things are concerned, but every gen has some thematic similarities with the mainline release two generations prior to it. For the original four generations, the even and odd games actually ran in concurrent times to one another. Roughly speaking, the mainline game timeline is:

Original "Discontinued" Timeline:
RBY > Three Years > GSC

Current Timeline:
FRLG / RSE > Three Years > HGSS / DPPt > Several Years > BW > Two Years > BW2

RSE had a ton of shout-outs to the original games, such as reverting to a red / blue legendary color scheme, a completely new region, etc. Gen III also contained the RBY remakes.

DPPt likewise was influenced heavily by GSC, with some sparse references throughout - ultimately culminating in the remakes, HGSS.

BW (Gen V) had a ton of shout-outs to RSE (Gen III) and by extension Gen I. Some examples include as the return of Dive, an incredibly high new Pokemon count that mostly consists of original species, and Volbeat / Illumise and Huntail / Gorebyss are version exclusives.

XY's exact timeline is unknown, but it seems likely that it'll run concurrent with BW to start a new "distant future" generational couple. Regardless, some of XY's similarities to DPPt (Gen IV) include the French-looking outfits of the protagonists (more evident in Platinum) and by extension the climate, DPPt's battle music sounding particularly French in instrumentation, Fantina getting a spiritual successor in the form of this new Psychic Elite Four girl, etc.

XY also complicates things even further because of how high the generation count is getting: while BW serves as a shout-out to RSE and is similar to RBY in form and function, XY is likewise a shout-out to DPPt and similar to GSC; while year, BW2 existed, they served as more of a personal story for the region or an epilogue of sorts for Black and White. XY looks to be a more formal "sequel" to BW due to the more minute Pokemon count, adding a variety of new tricks for old pokes, and so on.

EDIT: unrelated, but at the disappoint around Sylveon being a one-off: I think the point they're trying to make here is that Fairy isn't designed as a supplementary type the way Dark and Steel originally started out - it's fully forced itself into the metagame, and the boatload of new Fairy-types and its impressive relations to other types show. It's meant to complete the trinity of Jolteon / Flareon / Vaporeon and turn it into a full-fledged, even number.

Those are some interesting thoughts, and with Gen 6's low pokemon count it does give credence to the idea of an intentional pattern to pokemon roster updates (and mechanics improvements). I'm not too sure about the timeline stuff and where X&Y sit, since that's largely determined by statements we hear from NPCs that help us place it.

That said, I do agree with you that BW and X&Y will be linked like the other pairs were.
 
I liked most the trios, but I really disliked almost all the legendaries from Gen V. Keldeo was the only one I liked. Glad we likely don't have many legends at all this time
 
I'm very confused. So has all the new pokemon been leaked? Did the guy with the early copy finish the game?

We don't know. There's still some gaps in the regional Pokedex and we know nothing about what comes after the mascot legendaries in the Pokedex. It's not like with Diamond and Pearl where we could look inside the rom and have it all revealed to us at once.
 
I honestly didn't realise that people cared about the trios this much, the last three have been poor.

Legendaries in general add flavor and content to the world, and as it's been said before, they also add non-uber legendaries to the competitive scene. They provide single player content and multiplayer content, so it's understandable why they'd be missed.

Maybe this is a new framework for GF? Release a game with just the boxart trio by default, and trickle out the trio as event legendaries.
 
I'm very confused. So has all the new pokemon been leaked? Did the guy with the early copy finish the game?
All of the new pokemon with the exception of the Z Legendary have been leaked.

We do NOT have all of the typing of the new pokemon that have been revealed.

We are still awaiting word on what remaining pokemon from Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh and Unova made the cut and which have been left out.
268 are going to need to be sought out in other games and bank transferred.

And we're still awaiting confirmation on some additional Mega Evolutions beyond the 18 that have been officially confirmed.
 
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