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All I've heard of his is 808s & Heartbreak, but that's a great album. Very intimate. Dude seems like a douche IRL, though.
Kanye West Is One Of The Greatest Contemporary Artists Of All Time
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I'm not opposed to his music but I have to admit I lost nearly all my respect for him as a person.
He did a "surprise" performance in Belgium last year when he was here.
It was only announced a week beforehand or something and cost 70€ (100$).
I wasn't a big fan and I would certainly not have paid the full sum but my friend wanted a wingman since he was trying to get closer to one my friends who was also going.
So he paid half.
But holy shit, that "concert" wouldn't have been worth 20 euros. I've seen better concerts for free. He just came up an hour late, sang a couple of songs (some he lengthened for 10 more minutes by just mumbled singing) and that was it.
That's just being unrespectful towards your fans. Fans, mind you, who paid a very hefty sum to be there.
I like some songs on Late Registration and Graduation and some of his newer work, but to label him as one the Greatest Contemporary Artists of All Time? That's a bridge or two too far.
He did a "surprise" performance in Belgium last year when he was here.
It was only announced a week beforehand or something and cost 70€ (100$).
I wasn't a big fan and I would certainly not have paid the full sum but my friend wanted a wingman since he was trying to get closer to one my friends who was also going.
So he paid half.
But holy shit, that "concert" wouldn't have been worth 20 euros. I've seen better concerts for free. He just came up an hour late, sang a couple of songs (some he lengthened for 10 more minutes by just mumbled singing) and that was it.
That's just being unrespectful towards your fans. Fans, mind you, who paid a very hefty sum to be there.
I like some songs on Late Registration and Graduation and some of his newer work, but to label him as one the Greatest Contemporary Artists of All Time? That's a bridge or two too far.
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Oh. But in all seriousness I don't think I need a masters in music theory this to voice my opinion about his music.
Roland Deschain
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Wow, I was really leaning towards going there too... good thing I didn't apparently.
Anyway, he doesn't come over as a normal person in public but really, who gives a shit. His music is awesome and often genre defining and that's what matters.
Unhandled Exception
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Terming anything as "greatest contemporary _____ of all time" is nothing short of meaningless.
Also, I'm sure Beethoven is shaking in his grave because Kanye is coming for the title.
"My identity hinges on thinking there can still be important artists" the thread.
It's like 'a little bit pregnant.'
You don't. But when you claim he's the greatest, you need to back that shit up with some hardcore evidence, other than "I like his music." Explain to your audience why he's the greatest, in your opinion.
I like Aqua, but I don't proclaim they're the greatest of all time.
Moral Panic
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I like Kanye's music too, but equivalent to Beethoven? I think you're stanning a little too hard there.
For me, Kanye feels like a real artist who is pushing the boundaries of his genre. Nothing sounds like Yeezus, but I wouldn't say anyone is being influenced by it. It's unique and that's what I like about it. I wouldn't say MBDTF is a "gamechanger" anymore than the average Drake album, despite the fact that MBDTF is a work on a whole different level.
Kanye as a person though? :lol
For me, Kanye feels like a real artist who is pushing the boundaries of his genre. Nothing sounds like Yeezus, but I wouldn't say anyone is being influenced by it. It's unique and that's what I like about it. I wouldn't say MBDTF is a "gamechanger" anymore than the average Drake album, despite the fact that MBDTF is a work on a whole different level.
Kanye as a person though? :lol
I personally don't care about him aside from The College Dropout & Late Registration as a whole. Everything he's released since then has been really hit or miss for me. Even MBDTF. But the tracks that I do fuck with on his later albums I consider really dope. And yeah, I can see him being mentioned in lists of greats, whether people like that or not is something they're gonna have to deal with tbh. Dudes a cultural icon in music lol. Everybody knows of his antics. I don't want to judge an artist off what they do in their actual lives, but Ye's ego is wild hahaha. It's cool though, TCD was my anthem in middle school. That album will always be special to me.
Most of his music has been shockingly terrible after Late Registration. I don't know what happened, I just can't get into his shit these days. I think maybe part of it is how he's always rolling out an army of co-producers for every project. The dude is an insanely talented producer, but I think all the collaborators he's always working with tend to water his talent down. Though I will say Yeezus was a step in the right direction after the mess that was MBDTF. But yeah, he's a big deal in the world of music. Can't really deny that.
As for his personality, he seems like an asshole with a huge ego, but I really couldn't care less. I'll never deal with him personally or anything, so his personality is irrelevant to me really.
Just give me another album on the level of College Dropout or Late Registration please.
As for his personality, he seems like an asshole with a huge ego, but I really couldn't care less. I'll never deal with him personally or anything, so his personality is irrelevant to me really.
Just give me another album on the level of College Dropout or Late Registration please.
Steve o 3000
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Yup. I threw up a little in my mouth when I read that.
I've given his music a chance a few times, but it just isn't for me. Nothing notable or exceptional about him or his music imo. Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks.
Vicetrailia
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Kanye can Jekyll and Hyde with the best of them...dat Gemini personality.
theignoramus
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only because standards have lowered. he's clever in the way he puts his name and brand out for public consumption, it's what prompts people to compare him to superior artists and pretend like he's on their level.
CountBlack
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You're Goddamn Right OP.
Screaming Meat
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Can you elaborate on that?
EDIT: Ah, you did.
"Experimenting" (or, as most people would call it, "playing") different styles of music isn't groundbreaking in any way, I'm afraid. I assume you've not heard of The Beatles or David Bowie? They did all that in pop music a while ago.
Unhandled Exception
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He made sure some other poor sap didn't end up with his wife?
Snkfanatic
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So it would be different if he wasn't American?
Screaming Meat
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I wish I understood the joke. Who is his wife?
Grinchy
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He's just some ___ rapper. Big deal.
He is great at convincing his fans he's some amazing talent, but there's a reason that outside of his fans, no one else is praising him.
highrider
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This. I don't care about his personal life. Although as a producer and writer I think he's more than Ok, but as a rapper I find him pretty boring.
Screaming Meat
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How so...? That's a pretty big claim.
AzureSkies
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while I'm not a fan of his music at all, this is nowhere near as bad of a claim as anything coming from PopGAF so I'll accept your opinion.
1. Kanye
2. Michael Jackson
3. Beatles
4. bob Dylan
5. Bruce Springsteen/Radio head/bob Marley/daft punk
victreeb3l
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Kanye is a musical genius. Eager to see what kind of impact he will have on fashion and other creative fields as he ages.
With one of the best hip hop albums of all time (MBDTF) and Yeezus.
Zuhzuhzombie!!
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Tell me what's genius about My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy.
It's certainly not his verbal skills.
It's certainly not his verbal skills.
Screaming Meat
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Okay. So how did that "revolutionise the whole industry"?
captainwhat
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He's one of the few artists in mainstream hip hop who is willing to push the boundaries of the genre.
Professor Chaos
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Though I'll probably regret this, you've tempted me to go over and have a look.
Can at least one of you back up why this is the case?
Zuhzuhzombie!!
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When I was a young buck everyone thought the same thing about Puff Daddy.
because we are fixing the previous generations fuck ups that has left the country in its current state and our things are superior because they have to be superior to survive
old people should learn to know their place in the world
Oppo
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Dude Abides
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He should stick to pop. His attempts to be avant garde and deep suck hairy balls.
- With his persona that is bigger than the industry itself. His character has grown from album to album. Yeezus is the peak of this where he takes a very different approach from his other albums and mixes acid house and industrial sounds, with raw primal vocals.
- The way he promoted Yeezus. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgR-8W5JF10
My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is also one of the highest rated hip hop albums of all time, and arguably the best "comeback" album of all time. That year of introspection he had allowed him to change the entire landscape of hip hop, producing tracks like Power and the flawless Runaway.
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