Didn't they use key parts of the Cell processor R&D towards 360's processor?
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Didn't they use key parts of the Cell processor R&D towards 360's processor?
JrBaconCheeseburger
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read cboat post again.
boredandlazy
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I wonder how long it'll take for the 'Microsoft Dev' from reddit to have his PR statement prepared?
Anticitizen One
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ah ok i thought he was talking about some announced future event
GribbleGrunger
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TheGreyHulk
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CBOAT the GOAT!
Looking back at in general about all those rumors from 2012, especially about one of the two vendors running late and possibly aiming for 2014 release, its crazy that it was MS. I always assumed it was Sony until the rumors came out about the Feb 20 reveal. Sony really stepped up to the plate this gen. Threw their ego out the window, got input from devs all over and put the system in Cerny's hands with trust and they've created such a beastly platform.
Looking back at in general about all those rumors from 2012, especially about one of the two vendors running late and possibly aiming for 2014 release, its crazy that it was MS. I always assumed it was Sony until the rumors came out about the Feb 20 reveal. Sony really stepped up to the plate this gen. Threw their ego out the window, got input from devs all over and put the system in Cerny's hands with trust and they've created such a beastly platform.
Well, everyone could see that Microsoft got pretty much blindsided by Sony. Their moves after the february reveal are horrible and just reactionary. It's also clear that they were surprised by the 8GB of GDDR5, most of us didn't think one of the platform holders would go that way.
If they thought they were launching 1 year before Sony, they could have been confident that their DRM would have flyed by the consumer and could have speculated Sony may adapt to it. People are hungry for the next gen.
Sony has been very aggressive with their strategy and as a consumer I like it.
Sega killed themselves with many of their fuck-ups since the SNES/Genesis era.
The hype of the PS2 was the final nail in the coffin.
JrBaconCheeseburger
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Being impatient has me getting it "Day one" reading this and not wanting to see my console go through the RROD bs again has me thinking.
GribbleGrunger
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This has to be about the 20th post stating that. Why are you overlooking the other issue he mentions?
SolidSnakeUS
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So upscales, but not actually native 1080p.
Devilinthiscity
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His past record is what makes everything he leaks legit. If he was only right half of the time then everyone would take it with a grain of salt. Which there is plenty of in this thread. Him having an agenda toward MS is reaching a bit.
FaintColt388301
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These xboners just hate things that say their precious xbox is going to get beat by a ps4. They won't believe anything unless it says otherwise. CBOAT is an insider he's not just some dude trying to make MS look bad.
I can't wait for both systems to be out. With their release dates so close, every gaming website is going to be doing comparisons. Poor xbone. Had MS used their time wisely and got the system out a year ago or even earlier this year, they could have had a nice head start and nothing to be compared to besides 7 year old consoles
I can't wait for both systems to be out. With their release dates so close, every gaming website is going to be doing comparisons. Poor xbone. Had MS used their time wisely and got the system out a year ago or even earlier this year, they could have had a nice head start and nothing to be compared to besides 7 year old consoles
Tesseract
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i gob alongside ye, matey. those fucking fucks.
ComputerMKII
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PS4 and Steam Machine it is, then.
quickdevilred
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im commenting on the original post
after ryse it is obvious that 900p upscaled would be best for best performsnce on xbone and that it will continue to happen
I also see no proof that the upclock is causing problems
didn't cboat leak that they were going to downclock the xbone and instead they upclocked it???
maybe that was somebody else
true yea, i was trying to explain it in more of a why sega fans blame sony kind of way.
Nightengale
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This is true not for just engineers, but practically any kind of teams, be it marketing, etc.
When given a range of dates, teams would always go for the last figures. Not everything would be ready by then either, so a later date is always better than earlier.
More times than not, an earlier release date is a top-management mandate. Either due to a competitor response, or needing to coincide the launch with a sponsored event ( NFL, FIFA, etc ).
And the latter rarely happens, because if the event had to be coincided with a major event, the 'last date' would had been the event date in the first place.
The fact that not a single Xbox One version of a 3rd party game were shown at E3 & that Microsoft included an hardware upscaler inside Xbox One should be pretty telling to everyone.
GribbleGrunger
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Yes. When you look at what CBOAT has posted and then look at this tweet, it does appear to have correlation. He mentions two games and then talks about up-scaling. Perhaps this tweet gave us more insight than we originally thought?
BS. Friends are going to want to play where there friends are. That's why early adopters are so important in this upcoming gen. Those early adopters are going to set the stage on where their friends will play and what console they will buy. It's why PS4 is looking so great coming out of the gate due to people making up their minds and persuading others. Once the launch dies down, those advice giving people (aka the kinds of people who post on here) will make the largest difference.
Probably not... The very first design choice regarding PS4 back in 2007 (according to Mark Cerny) was that the PS4 would use an x86 CPU. That means Intel or AMD are pretty much the only two options.
i dont see anything that we didnt really know before, right? Did people think that somehow xb1 would overcome those deficits in bandwith and gpu?
and Xbox is not going anywhere... if everything continues going horribly wrong for them, they will end up being 2nd biggest console on the market by reasonable % and still probably be profitable. Sony might end up selling 20%-30% more but thats about it.
and Xbox is not going anywhere... if everything continues going horribly wrong for them, they will end up being 2nd biggest console on the market by reasonable % and still probably be profitable. Sony might end up selling 20%-30% more but thats about it.
boredandlazy
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I'm pretty sure the PS4 will have an upscaler chip in it too, it's sort of a necessity even if it's just for DVD playback etc.
3rdamention
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I believe his prediction was October 28th, so the very end of October. Those winning the Taco Bell promotion are getting the system at least a week early, so the system will obviously be ready to ship the end of October/ first week of November...
That shows me it could have been launched the end of October. Plans could have changed after Cboat got his info, or he got bad info. Sure, he ended up being wrong, but it's not like he predicted it to release the first week of October and missed it by a month and a half.
Also you are conveniently leaving out everything he has gotten right, going all the way back to all his correct leaks BEFORE even the 360 launched.
If you feel he isn't right or simply blows incorrect smoke, then don't worry, you don't believe him so these rumors shouldn't impact the Xbox One at all. After all, he did miss those two predictions you carefully selected.
GribbleGrunger
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But not everthing he leaks was legit, so not necessarily this new informations are (despite 1080p not a rule is pretty obvious, we don't need him for knowing that.)
boredandlazy
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Out of the frypan into the fire?
eddfromtheriver
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Ahem... the possible RROD part deux thingie is new?
TL;DR version.
Sony, Toshiba and IBM entered a partnership to develop what became the Cell. Due to an oversight / fuckup / whatever, the contract allowed IBM to use the R&D of the Cell to produce its own variation of the Cell. When they did when MS came asking for a new CPU for their new Xbox. The Xenon CPU is kind of a Cell Jr.
The team at IBM who were working on the Xenon were doing it in secret, while working along side the team that was working on the Cell.
As you can imagine, when Sony found out about this, they weren't too pleased!
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/132297/processing_the_truth_an_interview_.php
walltowall
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They tried to sell a single chip design --with modifications -- to Apple, Sony, and MS. Apple left with a quickness right after.
quickdevilred
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the problem is this isn't a rumor its just logic that anyone following the consoles should already know
weaker hardware leads to cuts, resolution cuts quite frankly don't really affect the games so they are the most obvious cut zones
Tesseract
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Your point is inane...the fact that you are doubting a leak from a source that has a success rate of 90%, that has been leaking correct information since 05, and has been verified by every mod on this site speaks to willful ignorance or stubborn opposition to facts proven time again due to your own personal agenda of spreading fud.
Tesseract
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SRTtoZ
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Yea, ever since Kinect came out my 360 pretty much died.
3rdamention
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By this thinking, "beta tested in the future" would be one of the most accurate gaming slogans ever, considering beta testing won't start till November.
I feel confident Microsoft knew what they were doing with the upclock, they had to learn from their previous mistakes. At least in reference to hardware issues. The impact on gaming we will have to see.
there were rumors about that before, i wouldnt really worry about that. MS does not want to lose money on warranties.
Sony built one hell of a foundation with their first party studios this gen. They are just starting to reap the benefits of that going into next gen
MrCunningham
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Why do people with sonic avatars not like Sony? =/
Maybe it's a Sega thing? Sony generally gets the blame for pushing Sega out of the console industry
Though in reality it was always Sega's own incompetence on the business side that caused their own demise in the console marketNo, it was Mark Cerny who kept pushing Sony to go x86 until they finally just gave in and started listing to him. It's the smartest move they made all generation.
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