MORTALIS
Member
I lol'd too. I give it 3 pages max until its reduced to the same drivel. Great news indeed and I concur, thread worthy.
Gamesindustry: Xbox Live Compute (Cloud Servers) offered free to devs
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I lol'd too. I give it 3 pages max until its reduced to the same drivel. Great news indeed and I concur, thread worthy.
Tripp Daily
Member
This one is from the Microsoft employee being interviewed and reiterates what was said before. Please read the whole article.
The problem is finding those dedicated servers. I can't see MS allowing their servers to be used with PS4 games.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I just finished it. You're right. It's the interviewer that mentions it.
It's a good article for them. I wouldn't expect any less.
Twin Tails
Member
Goodbye host advantages
Can someone tweet him to ask if it the free dedi's part is true?
Cloud hosting is extremely cheap these days, no multi-platform developer will opt for dedicated servers on one platform vs. p2p on the other. This article also isn't clear on whether cloud hosting is free or not: It could be interpreted as MS only offering the tools for free.
Again, I did read the whole article. The MS representative Never uses the words dedicated servers. Only in the one paragraph where the article writer explains what the MS person really means which seems fishy to me.
Sorry, but I don't trust MS on this after their constant PR double-speak. They themselves have not said dedicated servers for everyone, only this author.
Live Compute and other things are offered within the cloud, but dedicated servers for multiplayer matches takes quite a bit more server resources to dedicate, especially for free.
SwiftDeath
Member
Right and we knew cloud compute was going to be offered to devs for free
How is cloud compute = dedicated servers?
Because the Titanfall devs said they were paying for it. It is a smaller fee but still a fee. This is not about free dedicated servers for multiplayer this is for expanding the use of online compute services. World persistence, stat tracking, ai distribution. People are inflating this to mean more.
Alx
Member
Well, if they get paid for it, they may. After all it's an important part of their business, one they want to develop, and probably the main reason they're pushing "the cloud" so much.
The Crimson Kid
what are you waiting for
If true, this would be yet another Microsoft policy reversal. Previously these servers had a charge associated with them. It would be wise to wait for further confirmation of such a sizable reversal.
If this is true, it is great news. If I'm paying $60 a year to play MP on your console, then you should be providing dedicated servers for every game. Hopefully this would get Sony to match on PSN.
As for the other benefits of "cloud computing," I'll believe them when I see them. That stuff has been so overhyped that it's meaningless to me until we see some results.
If this is true, it is great news. If I'm paying $60 a year to play MP on your console, then you should be providing dedicated servers for every game. Hopefully this would get Sony to match on PSN.
As for the other benefits of "cloud computing," I'll believe them when I see them. That stuff has been so overhyped that it's meaningless to me until we see some results.
They don't mention dedicated servers being free anywhere, they are just talking about "easier to build". The tools could be free, but not the hosting itself.
That's from the write of the article not Microsoft.
The Microsoft quote is:
"We are giving this resource away to them for free" when speaking about "compute"
As in they are giving away free compute.
There is no mention on giving away unlimited compute or just a small amount, no mention of how many VM's, no mention of which VM's.
Don't get me wrong this is good, but don't get too carried away, wait for confirmation.
Salvor.Hardin
Banned
You guys are acting like you've read the article when you clearly haven't. That's pretty fucked up
Tripp Daily
Member
Another indicator pointing towards free servers.
That quote is from the MS employee in the article.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I believe he's talking about the Xbox Live Compute portion though. Nothing about dedicated servers. I do believe MSFT will have a lot of this stuff in order but it's best not to read too much into it. All we can do is take it at face value but we are left asking questions since it's not exactly clear seeing how the discussion is going.
Salvor.Hardin
Banned
lol. Okay dude.
Redshirt
Banned
The Wired article way back when confirmed free as well, including dedicated servers. GAF refused to believe it then and probably will now too, but there's never been any indication otherwise (that I know of).
Great news if true, but it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. Is COD different on the XB1 and PS4? Does the XB1 version lose out because the developers don't want to create and maintain separate net code?
Great news if true, but it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. Is COD different on the XB1 and PS4? Does the XB1 version lose out because the developers don't want to create and maintain separate net code?
Gemüsepizza
Member
Uh why? Sorry but I don't really understand your logic. Because this does not mean that the PS4 versions of those games won't offer dedicated servers. Sure it is nice for devs to have free access to this, but it doesn't tell us anything about how they will choose to use it and about other platforms.
They say it right there. The resource is free.
Stop trying to make it into a negative when one doesn't exist.
http://venturebeat.com/2013/10/15/h...m-will-extend-the-life-of-xbox-one-interview/
Says free there too.
Cloud compute = dedicated servers.
Cloud compute IS the dedicated servers
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I want to believe it and applaud the addition but it's never clarified beyond the MSFT rep saying XBL Compute will be offered such as the thread title states.
I wouldn't assume that unless they say so. That's a good piece too.
Anthony Soprano
Member
I'm sure there's a limitation somewhere, even if only in the lifespan of the product's servers. If not, this would be wonderful - one of the worst things is having a game's master server shut down and broken forever.
Crimson_Gold
Member
You guys are acting like you've read the article when you clearly haven't. That's pretty fucked up
That entire comment was compute related. I believe the compute functions will be free. I'm talking about the multiplayer server issue. That needs clarification
Don't know I'd like some real confirmation. Killzone: Shadow fall doesn't really have dedi's either reading what the devs wrote, however all the news outlets are saying it has dedi's.
I am not assuming.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
The wording is not as clear cut as I would imagine. It seems to me you're right. Can we just have a clear answer so we can be happy about this without asking questions? Sounds like good news to me no matter what.
Neither am I. As I said, this sounds good to me as a future owner.
You guys are acting like you've read the article when you clearly haven't. That's pretty fucked up
Ok but even what you quoted just says how it's EASIER to create dedicated servers on their cloud. But they still haven't come out to say dedicated servers for every game. Nothing from a Microsoft representative's mouth that specifically says dedicated servers for every game.
Seriously, if it is true, why won't they say so?
Salvor.Hardin
Banned
Again, you clearly haven't read the article. The MS rep refers to dedicated servers as a service available through Live Compute. He also says that Live Compute is free.
I'll take slightly worse graphics over gimped multiplayer any time.
Plus, multiplayer games are definitely going to be better looking due to dedicated servers.
Well that's not true. Not all games are using the Xbox Cloud so...there has to be done kind of catch.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
If they're using Azure, then it's just a configuration and they can spin up a virtual server specifically for that game/application on demand.
At least that's the impression I got from the Titanfall devs when they were talking with Giant Bomb during E3.
Right, Netflix is a service available through Live Gold. But having Live Gold doesn't automatically give me Netflix.
"Service available through..." is still just cryptic enough to get people excited without really telling us what we want to hear.
3rdamention
Member
Free for ALL developers? 1st party? 3rd party? Indies too?
You guys are acting like you've read the article when you clearly haven't. That's pretty fucked up
Dude it says it is easier to build dedicated server support it really does not have the microsoft rep saying free dedicated servers. Please find that in his quotes for me.
Wii U says hi.
Of course he did. They'll take whatever good news they can. True or false. Phil himself has been the source of false/misinformed statements.
If you took a second to stop spinning and actually read what's written, you'll see he's right.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
No, I read it. It's still not clear so just as much as some of us want some clarity, I would expect the other side of the fence to be as vigilant. Nothing wrong with wanting a direct answer.
Salvor.Hardin
Banned
Dude, if you have trust issues, that's fine. But could you please stop spreading FUD in every single X1 thread? It's kind of tiresome. They've made it pretty clear what they mean in the article.