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[RiccochetJ]

The more I'm seeing of this game, the more I'm thinking I might buy more than just Dead Rising 3 at launch.

 

[Netprints]

This game wasn't on my list at all after seeing the game at E3, but now it has grabbed my attention. I am amazed by how awesome this game looks.

 

[Muppet of a Man]

Not something I'm going to argue about but pretty much every refrence I've heard comparing platforms has been XboxOne/PS4 vs last gen and vs PC.

As of now we haven't seen any major differences on 3rd parties yet either.



So instead of waiting to see you're just going to continue to complain about how you don't think it's true?

You haven't seen it yet (key word), but you're not going to trust a bunch of 3rd party multiplatform devs' word on it?

They claimed the same about the 360 last gen and were right about that. Almost every DF comparison article validates that.

It really doesn't matter at the end of the day unless you are someone like me that wants the absolute best console for 3rd party multiplats.

If X1 winds up having tons of exclusive 3rd party content, they may wind up circumventing this weakness regardless.


-Anyway, done talking about PS4 vs X1. Back to Ryse. This could definitely make for a great series. By the second iteration, if they focus more on finessing the gameplay/combat model, this could be a real competitor for GoW and the DMC series.

 

[abadguy]

Gotta love all the posters refusing to believe how good this game looks and doubting Crytek.

It's almost as if they spent so much time discussing that 50% hardware gap that they're now hardwired to think XB1 games were going to look like trash.

Pretty much. The narrative for the past few months was that you have this "weak" or "underpowered" console" that will never have any impressive looking games. (In relaity it's not "underpowered" at all, just not at powerful as the PS4.) This narrative has been pushed so hard that even a dev as technically proficient as Crytek is being called into question. Can't wait to see the reactions when games like Quantum Break are finally shown proper.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

So many people grasping at straws trying to continue to hate/troll. This is why I hate when new gens launch, this crap always pops up.

Game looks amazing, and if this is a launch game I can't wait to see what comes in 2 years.

 

[FordGTGuy]

You haven't seen it yet (key word), but you're not going to trust a bunch of 3rd party multiplatform devs' word on it?

They claimed the same about the 360 last gen and were right about that. Almost every DF comparison article validates that.

It really doesn't matter at the end of the day unless you are someone like me that wants the absolute best console for 3rd party multiplats.

If X1 winds up having tons of exclusive 3rd party content, they may wind up circumventing this weakness regardless.

I love you're extending this argument into nothingness, all I said is that we haven't seen it yet and that pure power on paper means nothing if it doesn't translate into a game.

Xbox One won't need exclusive 3rd party content as they are pushing console features that will make people want to play the games on their platform. Not to mention things like dedicated servers...

 

[ironcreed]

I don't know. The gameplay still seems pretty close to the in-game cut scenes to me.

The game is gorgeous... period.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

Game looks amazing, and if this is a launch game I can't wait to see what comes in 2 years.

Indeed, look at the difference between Perfect Dark Zero and Halo Reach. Launch games are generally quite poor looking after the first year.

 

[ck2875]

I wasn't that interested in Ryse around the time of e3, but that was mainly due to its heavy QTE reliance. However, the more I see of it the more I like it. This video looked really impressive, but I still think I'll wait for some reviews to hit before I pick it up.

 

[bj00rn_]

you know message boards aren't all rainbows and unicorns right? people aren't going to 100% gush and have orgasms about visuals in every post..some people will have a dissenting opinion.. don't act like this concept is new to you.

Having an dissenting opinion is one thing, bringing it with a pissy sulfururic atmosphere around it is another.

 

[Muppet of a Man]

I love you're extending this argument into nothingness, all I said is that we haven't seen it yet and that pure power on paper means nothing if it doesn't translate into a game.

And all I'm saying is that you should take an objective 3rd party's word for it if you care about having superior console multiplats....This is neither here nor there, though, at this point.

It does not detract from X1's ability to have amazing looking games, as Ryse illustrates nicely.

 

[KOHIPEET]

I don't know. The gameplay still seems pretty close to the in-game cut scenes to me.

The game is gorgeous... period.

Is this gif slowed down, or the actual game got slowed down? If it is the latter then that solves one of my biggest problems about it, the animations.

 

[MysticGoujon]

you don't have to be an engineer to have common sense, you use the strengths of whatever console you're working with to bring out the best, if there's a 40 % difference..that's a lot of strength to work with no matter what secret engineer only sauce you feel exists because you can't understand the numbers..you think inside the box (in this case the Xbox) way to much to be fun to have a disagreement with, i'm done with you, sorry I replied to your oversensitive post, I actually meant well.

You're missing the point, you're comparing statistics, it's not that simple. The proof is in the pudding, if it's 40% more powerful, why aren't we seeing 40% better looking games on the PS4? Anyway, can we keep this out of the Ryse thread, it's off topic. Sorry that I missed that you were meaning well, have a nice day.

 

[Salvor.Hardin]

-Anyway, done talking about PS4 vs X1. Back to Ryse. This could definitely make for a great series. By the second iteration, if they focus more on finessing the gameplay/combat model, this could be a real competitor for GoW and the DMC series.

A sequel set in the Edo period of Japan would be so boss. Samurai slasher. Who could resist?

 

[FordGTGuy]

Indeed, look at the difference between Perfect Dark Zero and Halo Reach. Launch games are generally quite poor looking after the first year.

How did PDZ was amazing looking... if you only looked at the brick walls.

Honestly how did those brick walls look so good in this game?

And all I'm saying is that you should take an objective 3rd party's word for it if you care about having superior console multiplats....This is neither here nor there, though, at this point.

It does not detract from X1's ability to have amazing looking games, as Ryse illustrates nicely.

Unless the "superior" ports aren't superior enough to even really notice unless side by side. Also graphics aren't the only thing that makes something superior, if I remember correctly a Watch Dogs director claimed the XOne version would have better AI.

 

[Barzul]

1080p version of RYSE Trailer

http://news.xbox.com/media/?path=xbox-one-games&mediaTypes=videos

direct download link:
http://news.xbox.com/~/media/Images...VIDOC_1_FINAL_1080p2997_ST_H264_15000kbps.mp4

Warning: Looks Incredible

My god that looks phenomenal.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Hey, the Xbox One isn't backwards compatible, so obviously the Xbox 360 isn't forwards compatible

Hehe.

Watching the footage again, it looks like the chubby smiler's cheeks are red during that crazy laugh and there's a moment earlier when he's giving a speech where it looks like light is going through the tip of his nose.

Incredible.

 

[ironcreed]

Is this gif slowed down, or the actual game got slowed down? If it is the latter then that solves one of my biggest problems about it, the animations.

It appears exactly the same as what is in the trailer, and it's badass.

 

[Eoin]

Very tempted to pick this up day one, but I'm going to stick to my guns and wait for somewhere to sell it sub £40.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

There is gameplay and cutscenes. A pure gameplay video is coming soon according to Mike Read.

Got a link to where that was said? I can't wait.

Is this gif slowed down, or the actual game got slowed down? If it is the latter then that solves one of my biggest problems about it, the animations.

The person playing could simply be playing with proper pace, taking their time, as opposed to the game's combat attack speed being slowed down.

 

[Muppet of a Man]

By the way, Crytek was right when they said that nothing would outclass their engine when the new consoles launched.

 

[SniperHunter]

Indeed, look at the difference between Perfect Dark Zero and Halo Reach. Launch games are generally quite poor looking after the first year.

I disagree. Crysis came out in 2007 and it still looks good.

 

[def sim]

How did PDZ was amazing looking... if you only looked at the brick walls.

Honestly how did those brick walls look so good in this game?

Parallax mapping. PDZ was not a pretty game, but it was certainly a gaudy mess of impressive effects.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

This 50% GPU thing is going to go on and on isn't it? For years. I'd rather just to talk about the game in question. I'm also getting a bit bored of this "(whatever game) says hello" style responses to those who think one title looks fantastic. What are you , fucking twelve? Attitudes absolutely stink. There is no way I would have anyone dictate to me what I should be thinking or try and tell me what I should like or shouldn't.

 

[Muppet of a Man]

Unless the "superior" ports aren't superior enough to even really notice unless side by side. Also graphics aren't the only thing that makes something superior, if I remember correctly a Watch Dogs director claimed the XOne version would have better AI.

Did you not consider X360 multiplats to be superior to PS3 multiplats the majority of the time? There is a consensus that they are indeed better, albeit not super noticeable to the casual gamer.

The hardcore will definitely harp on these differences, however, "small" as they might be. That is all I'm saying.

 

[shinobi602]

I disagree. Crysis came out in 2007 and it still looks good.

But it was a PC release. PCs don't really have generations.

 

[FordGTGuy]

Honestly if this is what you can do with 900p upscaled to 1080p on Xbox One... I see it becoming the norm.

Did you not consider X360 multiplats to be superior to PS3 multiplats the majority of the time? There is a consensus that they are indeed better, albeit not super noticeable to the casual gamer.

The hardcore will definitely harp on these differences, however.

I would never base my decision on buying a X360 or PS3 version on graphics.

Oh c'mon now, are we now defining hardcore as people that can tell subtle differences between X360 and PS3 games?

 

[jackb2424]

Can someone clear this up for me. Im not as tech savy as some of you other guys but in The Order trailer they said that was actual in-game footage. Recently in GI they showed how they detached the camera and so on to prove it. Now for Ryse are they using thIs same method where they can detach the camera in cutscenes or are these cutscenes something like Uncharted?

 

[pr0cs]

By the way, Crytek was right when they said that nothing would outclass their engine when the new consoles launched.

I'm okay with this. I found this gen that almost everything that used the Unreal engine had a 'samey' feel to the characters and models.
I'm all for a new overlord (engine) taking over.

 

[Doffen]

Got a link to where that was said? I can't wait.

Here you go: https://twitter.com/mread/status/391171308710400001

 

[Goku]

But it was a PC release. PCs don't really have generations.

Crysis 360 is one of the prettiest console games, especially given the scale.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

Honestly if this is what you can do with 900p upscaled to 1080p on Xbox One... I see it becoming the norm.

Yup.

I could not give a shit about a 'poor' resolution if they can look this good.

 

[Dennis]

 

[Scrabble]

PDZ still has some really impressive gun models though. In fact I think only Killzone 2 has it beat in terms of just gun models.

 

[SniperHunter]

But it was a PC release. PCs don't really have generations.

I was just saying certain games from here on out will look beautiful for a long time. They will lack certain features like soft body physics etc but they will still look beautiful in their own way.

 

[FordGTGuy]

Yup.

I could not give a shit about a 'poor' resolution if they can look this good.

The hardware scaler must be pretty amazing and I also heard something about it helping with AA. Honestly why even run at 1080p when you can do more things on screen, better effects and still look ultra clear?

 

[dragonelite]

Here you go: https://twitter.com/mread/status/391171308710400001

Ooh nice next week gameplay footage

The hardware scaler must be pretty amazing and I also heard something about it helping with AA. Honestly why even run at 1080p when you can do more things on screen, better effects and still look ultra clear?

They use their own custom upscale shader if im not mistaken.
This give them the option to use previous frames to get samples from as an example.

 

[Wishmaster92]

Second most impressive shot:

 

[nelsonroyale]

Can someone clear this up for me. Im not as tech savy as some of you other guys but in The Order trailer they said that was actual in-game footage. Recently in GI they showed how they detached the camera and so on to prove it. Now for Ryse are they using thIs same method where they can detach the camera in cutscenes or are these cutscenes something like Uncharted?

They said they are real-time, but they could just be using real time assets which is generally the norm. Personally, I think the cinematics look much cleaner in terms of IQ than the gameplay, but it could be they are using different captures or builds. My guess is real time + higher quality effects, like what they seem to be doing in most other next gen games (ie, infamous)

 

[Oublieux]

I'm grabbing the PS4 first since I'm in Asia, but 900P? Who the hell cares? This game looks absolutely astounding.

 

[nib95]

Yup.

I could not give a shit about a 'poor' resolution if they can look this good.

Depends on the scaling tech. But at lower resolutions there's less point going balls out on texture resolution, minute polygon detail etc. Because that stuff will have a touch of blur to it anyway, rendering that extreme texture detail rather pointless. But we'll have to wait and see.

 

[shinobi602]

I was just saying certain games from here on out will look beautiful for a long time. They will lack certain features like soft body physics etc but they will still look beautiful in their own way.

I definitely agree with that. Personally, the original Crysis maxed out still looks like a next gen game to me at this point.

I said it a long time ago but I think re-releasing the games as a Crysis Trilogy Collection on next-gen consoles would be a no-brainer. I know I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

 

[Muppet of a Man]

Honestly if this is what you can do with 900p upscaled to 1080p on Xbox One... I see it becoming the norm.



I would never base my decision on buying a X360 or PS3 version on graphics.

Oh c'mon now, are we now defining hardcore as people that can tell subtle differences between X360 and PS3 games?

Yes, the hardcore definitely harp on graphics. You've been on NeoGAF long enough to know this. It is important to people who take all aspects of gaming seriously. Why else would people put together 2,000 or 3,000 dollar gaming rigs if they can afford it?

 

[FordGTGuy]

I'm grabbing the PS4 first since I'm in Asia, but 900P? Who the hell cares? This game looks absolutely astounding.

Not that I protest your purchase but what does being in Asia make a difference when both are region free?

Yes, the hardcore definitely harp on graphics. You've been on NeoGAF long enough to know this. It is important to people who take all aspects of gaming seriously. Why else would people put together 2,000 or 3,000 dollar gaming rigs if they can afford it?

We're not talking about $2-3,000 gaming rigs here though. Honestly if you put the same game running on a X360 and PS3 next to each other and blind tested people(even hardcore) they would just guess.

Depends on the scaling tech. But at lower resolutions there's less point going balls out on texture resolution, minute polygon detail etc. Because that stuff will have a touch of blur to it anyway, rendering that extreme texture detail rather pointless. But we'll have to wait and see.

You should watch the 1080p trailer, there are some pretty extreme texture details going on.

 

[SniperHunter]

I definitely agree with that. Personally, the original Crysis maxed out still looks like a next gen game to me at this point.

I said it a long time ago but I think re-releasing the games as a Crysis Trilogy Collection on next-gen consoles would be a no-brainer. I know I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

yea true. Crysis I and Crysis Warhead need to be ported to the newer Cry Engine. Crysis 1 is a very unoptimized game...

 

[Sathsquatch]

Is this gif slowed down, or the actual game got slowed down? If it is the latter then that solves one of my biggest problems about it, the animations.

The actual gameplay is slowed down, as shown by the video that gamespot accidentally published and then took down a few weeks ago. It makes most of the animations look better.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

Just playing a little devils advocate but watching 1080p encoded footage on your 24" Cinema Display is very different than watching it on your 47"-55" plasma/LCD. It's going to look great but that's not how you can properly judge IQ

Not that I protest your purchase but what does being in Asia make a difference when both are region free?



We're not talking about $2-3,000 gaming rigs here though. Honestly if you put the same game running on a X360 and PS3 next to each other and blind tested people(even hardcore) they would just guess.



You should watch the 1080p trailer, there are some pretty extreme texture details going on.

Man I don't know about that. Remember Oblivion. That looked pretty nasty on the PS3

 

[viveks86]

You should watch the 1080p trailer, there are some pretty extreme texture details going on.

This. Especially the faces! I really have zero complaints on the visuals at this point. Reserving judgment on story (lots of potential) and gameplay (still a bit skeptical).

 

[UNCMark]

I thought the youtube version looked good. Just watched the downloadable version. Yeah, it's far and away the best looking console game I've ever seen. Hopefully there's a great single player campaign and combat to go along with the visual. Just absolutely stunning. Nothing comes close to that.

 

[Muppet of a Man]

Not that I protest your purchase but what does being in Asia make a difference with when both are region free?



We're not talking about $2-3,000 gaming rigs here though. Honestly if you put the same game running on a X360 and PS3 next to each other and blind tested people(even hardcore) they would just guess.

I can definitely tell. Trust me, I own a PS3 and whenever I play the same game on a friend's 360, I am a bit jealous that it looks less muddy and has a more stable framerate.

Many people here (me included) want the best visual experience for the money. I can't afford a 2 to 3 thousand dollar pc gaming rig. This limits my choices to X1 and PS4. I can only afford to invest in one of them. So, I decided to base my choice off of which can run 3rd party multiplats better, as those are the games I play most of the time.

I think there are plenty of other merits to X1 for those that place more weight on them than graphics (example: online services, great 3rd party exclusive content, etc.).

The thing that most excites me about Ryse is not the game itself. It's the engine it uses graphical capabilities.

Cryengine will hold great promise in terms of graphics for both platforms. This game confirms it.