Some people can't see past retail launch exclusives. Those same people will claim Titanfall as an exclusive in March.
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RUMOUR: Xbox One version of Call of Duty: Ghosts is 720p, PS4 version is 1080p?
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Some people can't see past retail launch exclusives. Those same people will claim Titanfall as an exclusive in March.
Zatoichi's Cane
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will someone please update Albert's list of resolutions for games that he was asking for?
I believe he has 2 more for the 720p column.
I believe he has 2 more for the 720p column.
Hell at this point if the One is really lacking in capability this much in the 11th before launch the fall out from a delay of say 8-12 months would be less detrimental then sending it out the door as half assed as it appears to me.
NoirVisage
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I knew it all along...
Please don't hate me. I love dolan comics
Explains EVERYTHING.
As do i broski
Threads like this are the reason I love this place (just realized it was my 6 year anniversary 2 days ago).
That said, I'm sure MS will eventually get their shit together. They really need to get their messaging straight. Sony has been very upfront with everything and it's been very beneficial. Crazy how the sides have shifted from last gens launch. It's head to head this year as well. I'm really curious how the sales are going to pan out.
That said, I'm sure MS will eventually get their shit together. They really need to get their messaging straight. Sony has been very upfront with everything and it's been very beneficial. Crazy how the sides have shifted from last gens launch. It's head to head this year as well. I'm really curious how the sales are going to pan out.
So you're saying the $500 console that provides visuals that you can't notice are worse than the $400 console means everything is all good? Ok.
TheOctodad
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I don't get why people are arguing about not noticing 720p vs. 1080p. that's hardly the real issue.
The real issue (theoretically) is that a console that is cheaper and a competitor is pulling off superior overall performance. Especially when this is at launch and there have already been many conversations about how the PS4 is more powerful, this just continues to reinforce that narrative.
Arguing a semantic difference of if you can see the resolution differences on your own TV is totally not the point. The point is the power disparity is (again theoretically) already becoming apparent. That's not a good thing.
The real issue (theoretically) is that a console that is cheaper and a competitor is pulling off superior overall performance. Especially when this is at launch and there have already been many conversations about how the PS4 is more powerful, this just continues to reinforce that narrative.
Arguing a semantic difference of if you can see the resolution differences on your own TV is totally not the point. The point is the power disparity is (again theoretically) already becoming apparent. That's not a good thing.
ChiliManiac
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What's hilarious is that Most of Microsoft is probably asleep right now and un ware of the shit storm blowing up in their face.
That bit about dedicated servers makes no sense.
Derpcrawler
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You talking to a guy with 61k GS and 7-8 years sunked into Xbox 360 and Live. I am not blind to facts, if you would ask me which platform I would go before May reveal I would definitely say Xbox. But come on dude, your posts here are filled with fanboy bullshit bordering stupidity.
Please stop quoting from Reddit. It's giving me brain cancer.
Yeah maybe you can,and when I play wipeout HD it looks the most cleanest looking game I have ever played on the 360 or PS3.
but I bet if you attach you PC to your 47 panny
you could not tell the difference between these to picks based on there resolution alone
I say this because when I scroll in on them they still look the same.1080p
720p
I guess ur right and gaming is the only decent way to see the benifits of 1080p
I am sure it will work fine after some kinks are ironed out. They just put the focus less on building the console around gaming than Sony did and it will have less performance in that area as a result. Hell, I love some of the exclusives they are showing, but I'm not paying $500 for a weaker system just to play them. If anything, it needs a nice price drop for what they are offering. It will be a much more attractive prospect then.
Foghorn Leghorn
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still no answer
Called it. Just wait and see. LOL
Ami you were here, you have to admit the PS3 fans never seem to be hurting or dissuaded. I can count on one hand the people still here who sticks their neck out for the 180 but PS3 fans were loud, cocky and numerous coming off of the PS2 success. They never blinked an eye and instead went to "you get what you pay for" and "wait for___insert game__". Discussions went on as usual because, really, who could stop that train? Sure, jokes were made and even actual factual points were called out, all drowned out by sheer numbers and enthusiasm. Yes, Sony tool their lumps back then but the parallels end at the fact that the companies fucked up. Being a PS3 fan in those days were nothing at all like supporting the 180 today. It's hilariously bad for those kids and outside of a board just for Xbox (shudder) I don't really know where they can go to discuss the 180 without constant trolling and prodding. They just don't have the numbers to win.
I don't even know what's going on over there. My eyes are bleeding from the comments and the way they are set up, but I can't stop reading them
Project Alice
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I've been reading a lot of that. It's not even that I "disliked" the PS3 controller, as I had a PS3 also, I just felt that the XBOX 360 controller was close to perfect. I rocked and rolled on the NES controller after all, and that was a marvel in design right?
I'm not pre-ordering at this point, which is ludicrous to me as I have always been an early adopter, I'm going to see how things shake out.
I honestly thought new consoles should have came out like 2 years ago, as our boxes were aging, but now considering the fact that 8 years after the XBOX launch, the XBOX One can't manage to crank our more than 720p on COD potentially just seems ridiculous to me.
Can Crusher
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False, both the PSONE and the PS2 were technically more advanced than any other console at time of release up to at least a year. Wii is the only example you have, and considering how much of a fad it was, it seems like it's going to remain as the exception. Unless Dreamcast counts, a system without support from the likes of EA and that got murdered by a hype machine that was built around superior graphics.
And it's fine to play the "people are ignorant" card, but the thing about ignorant people is that not always they surround themselves with equally ignorant people.
He was saying that Xbox One would magically make Native 1080p games without compromises & such. That's all.
What's hilarious is that Xbox fanboys assumed that Microsoft would have the most powerful console due to Microsoft having "more money than Sony," but what they fail to realize is that Microsoft's shareholders/investors are onto the Xbox brand more harshly than before because it's not making them big bucks & that Microsoft just can't spend an infinite amount of money just to cater towards the Xbox brand.
Not only that, but they also assumed that because "Sony's Poor & don't have any money," that Sony won't be able to make a more powerful console at all. Well, they were wrong, & it all blew up in their faces.
Zero-Crescent
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Well, I guess that is the proverbial* that.
*Incorrect usage of the word proverbial.
fabricated backlash
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No personal attack, but man people need to get a bit more inventive with their use of gifs instead of recycling the same 2 ones all the time. So many to choose from...
I expect nothing but the highest quality from GAF in this regard.
NullPointer
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And I thought the narrative and common sense implied that we wouldn't see any big differences at launch, since all of those games are rushed and built from an assumption of 4GB RAM among other things.
For one title to show so much difference at launch seems like a loud, persistent canary in the coal mine.
IAmRandom31
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You cannot hide from the numbers. That is the simple fact of the matter.
The numbers at the start of the 360/PS3 generation had both consoles very close or superior to the PC's at the time. So games like Gears of War were new territory for most people. They looked fantastic.
The stuff that will come for the X1 will not look anything close to a high end PC, and as numbers do not lie, the bandwidth limitation of that pultry .. pathetic ... OMG HOW COULD THEY 67GB/s main memory bandwidth is just too big of a bottleneck to overcome. Especially when you have an 8 core 1.8Ghz processor at the helm of it all.
8 years later and we might have a 3x ( and actually, bandwidth wise it is just 3x )jump from 360 to X1 for 500$. That my friends, is what you can disappointment.
The numbers at the start of the 360/PS3 generation had both consoles very close or superior to the PC's at the time. So games like Gears of War were new territory for most people. They looked fantastic.
The stuff that will come for the X1 will not look anything close to a high end PC, and as numbers do not lie, the bandwidth limitation of that pultry .. pathetic ... OMG HOW COULD THEY 67GB/s main memory bandwidth is just too big of a bottleneck to overcome. Especially when you have an 8 core 1.8Ghz processor at the helm of it all.
8 years later and we might have a 3x ( and actually, bandwidth wise it is just 3x )jump from 360 to X1 for 500$. That my friends, is what you can disappointment.
Please tell me how my posts are fanboy posts, also why are people calling me a fanboy if they're in a thread about the xbox, hating on the xbox. Yet somehow I'm the fanboy, just really amazing stuff. Then everyone wonders oh why is neogaf being called bias. Lets keep believing rumors and hating on xbox, and calling those who defend it fanboys. Just keep it up.
TheRagnCajun
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Agreed. If I cared what some random poster wrote on reddit, I would visit reddit.
Quadraphonic
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This began rumbling before noon today. MS knows and MS knew this would happen. Why else would Activision forcibly prevent PS4 and Xbox One comparisons at their press event today? MS wants to stave it off as long as they can.
ethomaz
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These pics are from videos, no?
Do you have any screenshot from the same game in 1080p and 720p with png format (not the bad jpeg) to share?
I will make the same test in my D8000 51".
if you're saying PS3 fanboys were more determined, all you're saying is Xbox fanboys are not as determined. Maybe that's an indication Microsoft messed up even more than Sony did by comparison? ;P
I mean, my reaction to both was the same - I didn't get a PS3 for many years after the debacle, even though I was a core Ps2 gamer. This time around, I probably won't get an XBO for several years even though I was a core 360 gamer.
But as far as I saw back then, I can't agree with your assessment. yes, it was easier to have a conversation without getting "disheartened", but that's because NeoGAF is way, way bigger than it was before. A single post can be drowned out in twelve negative ones in a second now. That would have happened back then too had NeoGAF been this large during the PS3 debacle, but it wasn't.
Unfortunately for Xbox fans, and I say this with genuine sympathy, they are going to have to take it on the chin for a year or two and just deal with the swamping negativity because Microsoft has earned this and it's going to take a while for them to build back their trust. Just like Sony earned gamers ire after 2006 and it took years for trust to be fully regained (and they almost lost it all again with the hacking scandal).
If you stretch that 720p picture to the same size as the 1080p picture on a 47" TV, guess which one would come out blurrier?
My guess is, since there was also a rumor that MS developing tools weren't as mature as the PS4 tools, plus being weaker, they decided to focus on looking as close as possible to the PS4 games visually by sacrificing resolution, after all, the average gamer won't care about it IMO. I think they will sort it out eventually but and make the gap smaller than it seems to be now.
Hidden One
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All we need is antonio.gif.
Wow, I notice something right away... the 720p one looks way better! The textures are much warmer.
What you talkin' bout, Willis? That is a great gif. It puts all of Gaf's greatness into a single image.
ChiliManiac
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Well everybody knows like Microsoft a lot, I'm just annoyed by the piss poor messaging they're sending out. Granted, I will enjoy my Xbox 1 even if I raise an angry fist lol. Though I will be getting a PS4 a lot sooner than I waited to get a PS3 this gen.
Yes I am, as you can clearly see in that post you quoted.....
(and just so there is no confusion i am being sarcastic)
Calvinpewpewpew
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Don't mean to jump on the "ditto" train but I think this bears repeating. This is exactly how I feel right now, and its been getting more and more difficult for me to support the idea of buying the console that has the overall infrastructure that I prefer.
I don't even give a shit about the supposed "bad will" that Microsoft seems to have engendered in so many. A DRM program that wasn't nearly as insidious as many acted and was fairly similar to the PC side, a higher price point, and a mandatory kinect. Alright-none of the above are things that I love, but they aren't dealbreakers.
But barely being able to push out first-gen ports above 720p shows either an alarming lack of power or an alarming lack of developer acumen.
Can Crusher
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You gotta be trolling. The comparison only works if you pick a native 720p screenshot and upscale it to 1080p and then compare it to the same scene but native 1080p. I can't even begin to understand the logic beyond your comparison. It's sort of mind blowing actually.
Puppet Shadow
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What? It takes 3 popular gifs and combines them into one. After that, it's upload onto the cloud which makes it 300% more awesome!
Gintoki313
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I knew it all along...
Please don't hate me. I love dolan comics
I usually don't do this, but I just had to after seeing this.
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