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DF/JF: Battlefield 4 PS4 vs XB1 videos/screens (900p PS4, 720p XB1)
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shinobi602
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No Photoshop at work :-/
There's an option to disable anti aliasing on the PS3 version of BF3.
If there's the same on BF4 of PS4 it will solve the blurry, vasaline textures some of you have been complaining about.
Holy shit, what?! I didn't know the PS3 version had that.
Muppet of a Man
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Yes. These are from the correctly calibrated capture cards that DICE themselves handed out to journalists.
Dark10x, who works for DF, mentioned that they used there own capture equipment and that they did not have time to properly calibrate it. So their captures are not exactly representative of the actual output on both consoles.
Can Crusher
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There's literally no reason for the Xbox One version to look better at anything since the hardware isn't better at anything.
The power difference here is mostly being used in performance, as it's running at a higher resolution with higher AA at a higher framerate. Somehow someway Dice is pulling the amazing feat of there even being debate about these versions, but for PS4 owners the biggest takeway is how that power advantage might be properly used in first party games.
The power difference here is mostly being used in performance, as it's running at a higher resolution with higher AA at a higher framerate. Somehow someway Dice is pulling the amazing feat of there even being debate about these versions, but for PS4 owners the biggest takeway is how that power advantage might be properly used in first party games.
Glorified G
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originally posted by canis lupus:
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The joke that is digital foundry. "honest" mistake of course
I think it is slightly above 4k that your eye can't tell the difference in resolution.
alright people .. a couple things:
- OP images taken from DF videocapture (not indicative of image quality)
- screenshots taken from IGN capture for PS4 that had additional sharpen filter (not indicative of image quality)
Nothing so far gives me an accurate reflection of the quality of a "screenshot" .. not I said
"screenshot". Sharpness, Contrast, Color .. all can be adjusted.
What we know for sure ..
900p vs. 720p
frame rate differences between the two .. PS4 running higher on average
- OP images taken from DF videocapture (not indicative of image quality)
- screenshots taken from IGN capture for PS4 that had additional sharpen filter (not indicative of image quality)
Nothing so far gives me an accurate reflection of the quality of a "screenshot" .. not I said
"screenshot". Sharpness, Contrast, Color .. all can be adjusted.
What we know for sure ..
900p vs. 720p
frame rate differences between the two .. PS4 running higher on average
I made one of those screenshots with the simplest sharpening filter (not even unsharp mask). This is exactly what a TV does...
Maninthemirror
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Cross gen title. Wait a year
Always-honest
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The AA on the ps4 version is kinda certain too..
JetBlackPanda
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DF should be fucking embarrassed this morning.
phosphor112
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I can do it. I'm just tired of people thinking it's "contrast" or the ps4 version is just shit. Nothing irks me more than ignorance -__-.
The problem is DF's capture is entirely wrong.... it is completely off base. Compare with captures from IGN and see that you don't even need to up the sharpness on the PS4.... DF's capture was just plain blurry for unknown reasons.
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Well, if you push 56% more pixels, with slightly more effects and a slightly higher frame rate, I think the overall performance delta is more like 60%.
TheZink
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I did but not recently so I missed that update. My bad.
Gemüsepizza
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There's an option to disable anti aliasing on the PS3 version of BF3.
If there's the same on BF4 of PS4 it will solve the blurry, vasaline textures some of you have been complaining about.
Nice find!!!
Joe Molotov
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From the OP:
"The issue here is simple; Tom had a limited amount of time to capture this stuff and was not able to do so in a normal environment. If mistakes were made normally, it would be easy to go back and correct, but with the way this worked, it wasn't really possible.
Why so different? DF uses their own hardware for capturing while DICE were handing out Elgato boxes to everyone else. The DF hardware is actually much more capable but it works differently and, without the experience of working with these new consoles, I can see a situation where settings were dialed in wrong.
JF used what DICE provided and probably didn't even attempt to change any settings which, in this case, turned out to be for the best."
Also, the disparity between DF's footage and others exists not just on PS4, but on the Bone version as well.
http://abload.de/img/bf431qky.gif
People are right to be angry with DF right now, especially in light of them being a megaphone for MS trying to convince people that a better GPU and faster RAM would have hurt teh balance.
P.S. The conspiracy theorist in me wonders if DF just wants to keep things close to keep generating clicks. People tune out once domination sets in. Or, in the case of Seb Vettel they just boo a lot.
Thank you
Have you guys seen this. Someone posted this on reddit. The difference between Digital foundry and JackFrags and how digital foundry. Take it for what it's worth.
Edit: my bad. Didn't notice the updated OP.
The Jack Frags images look much better
Forsaken82
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At 1:08 there is a straight up PS4 dip
Just saying.
There are at least 2 moments where the PS4 dips below the XB1 for whatever reasons. It isn't just this explosion. That being said, the PS4 has a clear advantage
shinobi602
Member
It'd be much appreciated.
Zekra Dezivad
Member
but Xbox has the Cloud
I could have sworn we got official confirmation that it was 1080p/60fps.
MegamanEXE
Neo Member
Xbone: Sharpen filter hurdurr.
1) FXAA does create the vasoline effect but it looks much better in motion. I enjoyed having it on BF3 before my upgrade.
2) Some of you need more perspective. This is a LAUNCH game. A few more months (improved drivers and optimization) and they could probably hit 1080p. Think of what will come next year and beyond...
2) Some of you need more perspective. This is a LAUNCH game. A few more months (improved drivers and optimization) and they could probably hit 1080p. Think of what will come next year and beyond...
I hope we were both being sarcastic right now and you do realize that your POP POP NIGGAZ DEAD comment was bad and racist. You better avoid saying such things.
Metalmurphy
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The gap amount isn't consistent, sure, X1 being behind is.
plagiarize
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the same clouds are in both versions. they don't get lit the same way in the Xbox One version though, for some reason. on PS4 they are lit the same way as on PC.
in this thread I realized how many people had no idea what artificial sharpening is. there's blatant ringing on all the Xbox One shots from ALL sources.
I don't know if DICE are doing that on purpose, or if it's part of Microsoft's scalar, but if it's the latter, I'm espescially glad I'm not getting an Xbox One.
If they force that shit on you... yeah. No thanks.
I'd just consider it stupid, personally.
Well, I chuckled.
BigDaddyFatSack
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I checked out even more pics and vids from other sites.
Yep I knew the visual difference would be minor and NeoGAF was over-exaggerating the differences.
I'm definitely getting the X1 now considering it has better games. Sorry Sony!
Yep I knew the visual difference would be minor and NeoGAF was over-exaggerating the differences.
I'm definitely getting the X1 now considering it has better games. Sorry Sony!
Killroyskbg
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I did this in like 1 minute in PS only using really simple tools available on your tv as well. It´s not hard to see what DF did with their comparison video.
I know it´s not perfect but just wanted to prove the point a lot of people been doing of the techniques used.
I know it´s not perfect but just wanted to prove the point a lot of people been doing of the techniques used.
If you prefer the X1 games, sure go ahead. No one can blame you for getting a console with the games you want. Doesnt change that X1 is massively inferior tech though as it seems now.
heh. Like whole debate sharpen filter = better.
plasmawave
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The denial at misterxmedia is just delightful lol
plagiarize
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be honest, you were getting it anyway weren't you?
Forsaken82
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Massively Inferior is the type of exaggeration he is talking about.
Liamario
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Don't pretend for a second that any screenshots or videos would have made a difference anyways.
PdotMichael
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Outside of DF being DF.
The gap between PS4 and Xbox One is fucking big. The PS4 version is in a different league.
The gap between PS4 and Xbox One is fucking big. The PS4 version is in a different league.
Maninthemirror
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I did this in like 1 minute in PS only using really simple tools available on your tv as well. It´s not hard to see what DF did with their comparison video.
I know it´s not perfect but just wanted to prove the point a lot of people been doing of the techniques used.
Nice
Its not an exaggeration. PS3 Multiplats were often inferior to 360 versions, but 180p more plus better FPS and more effects is way more grave than the difference we had last gen.
Both game versions still look decent, but on a tech level the X1 seems so far behind that its not even funny anymore.
I did this in like 1 minute in PS only using really simple tools available on your tv as well. It´s not hard to see what DF did with their comparison video.
I know it´s not perfect but just wanted to prove the point a lot of people been doing of the techniques used.
Great comparison pics, thanks.
Digital Fuckery just shit the bed on this comparison. Probably one of their most anticipated articles ever and it's just a complete shitstorm. Epic fail on their parts.