Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS Thread 3: Ridley's Believe It or Not!

Also saw this gif on the smashboards
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No idea what it actually means besides being used for being happy
 
You guys are getting ridiculous with the alt model dreaming. It should still be the same character. Having Peach look like Rosalina or Mega Man look like Proto Man doesn't make sense since they'd still be calling the characters by their name. The roster would get convoluted.

Complete character swaps work for characters like WFT, Villager, and Pokemon trainer because those are titles and occupations where the character still performs the same action.

Luigi with a Mr.L model alt = makes sense
Luigi with a Waluigi model alt = stupid.
THIS cannot be said enough. Keep your hype in check guys :P

Nobody knows.
Well I hope at least Sakurai does lol
 
YES! YES! Sakurai, just keep doing what you are best at by surprising us and ruining those picky players' lives.

Lol what. Why on earth do people not like/want this? This basically replaces 'clones' in a way that upsets no-one. They stop being clones and start being skins.
 
I'm sorry but I found that hilarious that people actually want that to happens. What about those virgins' eyes!?!?



YES! YES! Sakurai, just keep doing what you are best at by surprising us and ruining those picky players' lives.

Really hilarious that alt. costumes of all things break the suspension of disbelief for him :D

Lol what. Why on earth do people not like/want this? This basically replaces 'clones' in a way that upsets no-one. They stop being clones and start being skins.
It certainly upsets fans of Falco and Wolf XD
Really, go ahead and tell them you like the idea of turning them into Fox's alts. It was a pretty entertaining afternoon when I did this a few weeks ago :D
 
So I went to try and find that ridley mod to see it in an actual clear shot, I ended up down some rabbit hole of smash mods.


There's some crazy shit in here, seriously:
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Was shaking my head in disgust for the most part, especially at that last one which is basically just a "le ebic memes are so funny right guys xD" character.

There are actually some pretty cool ones on there, but why does the smash mod community produce so much shit?
 
Was shaking my head in disgust for the most part, especially at that last one which is basically just a "le ebic memes are so funny right guys xD" character.

There are actually some pretty cool ones on there, but why does the smash mod community produce so much shit?

That's basically every User Generated Content site out there. Sturgeon's Law is in greater effect the larger the community is and how low the bar of entry is.
 
What rules? They exist because that's how they are shown in the game. It's not like WFT and Villager genders have defined roles. They pretty much are the same thing except you could change their gender at the start. No one is making arbitrary rules, it's just how it is presented in the games.

"Alternate costumes can't reference different characters unless the original game had a gender choice option" pretty much is an arbitrary rule. If we look at the current alternate colors, there's no such rule, like Link's Dark Link and Zelda OoT colors show. So, saying that alternate costumes can't go beyond a certain point, when we apparently just got an alternate costume revealed that seems to go past previous rules (like changing voice and general body shape) seems like drawing an arbitrary line.

Of course, there's no proof yet they might cross the "character name" line, but they seem like they're crossing some of the lines we apparently had before, so it's not out of question.
 
Well I hope at least Sakurai does lol

I don't even think he even knows at this point lol. I believe one of his comments about alts led some like me to believe he felt they took something away from a characters uniqueness but in this case it makes sense because wft is a more generic name and both characters are interchangeable in the game.

So in the end, no bahday knows imo. All I know is that this is a perfect opportunity to have masked marth as an alt now. :p
 
Final test of the week, so now I can ease up and catch up.....*see's new pic of the day*

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HOLY SHIT! All the God Damned possibilities! Makes me think my theory for the character customization feel like its going to actually happen. Great update. :D

And congrats to all the female fans that wanted him to be playable.
And Bara/yaoi guys too. Calm down. :P

Also, Tails or Knuckles alt before Shadow please. >_>
 
Final test of the week, so now I can ease up and catch up.....*see's new pic of the day*

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HOLY SHIT! All the God Damned possibilities! Makes me think my theory for the character customization feel like its going to actually happen. Great update. :D

And congrats to all the female fans that wanted him to be playable.
And Bara/yaoi guys too. Calm down. :P

Also, Tails or Knuckles alt before Shadow please. >_>

Tails and Knuckles cant even do what sonic does. And shadow fights completely different, so I guess you are safe.
 
I don't even think he even knows at this point lol. I believe one of his comments about alts led some like me to believe he felt they took something away from a characters uniqueness but in this case it makes sense because wft is a more generic name and both characters are interchangeable in the game.

So in the end, no bahday knows imo. All I know is that this is a perfect opportunity to have masked marth as an alt now. :p

That comment about costumes hurting uniqueness was a reply to a question about customizable costumes, not about alternate outfits. Giving the player the ability to add a straw hat and leather jacket to Mario is very different from allowing them to choose a preset "Doctor Mario" model for him.

Tails and Knuckles cant even do what sonic does.

Huh... have you never played the 2d games? There's no ability of Smash Sonic that would be impossible for them. They would be missing some of their own characteristic abilities though.

I don't think that Sonic example is very likely though, even if we get alternate costumes that change a character's name. Just look at how limited his colors were in Brawl compared to the actual Nintendo characters. Sega likely limits what can be done with his alternate looks. (I guess the same goes to the Pokemon, thinking about it...)
 
It certainly upsets fans of Falco and Wolf XD
Really, go ahead and tell them you like the idea of turning them into Fox's alts. It was a pretty entertaining afternoon when I did this a few weeks ago :D

I meant more along the lines of Dr. Mario. I wouldnt want to get rid of wolf or falco.
 
There's your new character.

Are you HAPPY now?

Very, actually. I hope the lady killager is available too. I do hope there are a couple more alts overall, maybe not one for every character but to give the ones with more facets different ways of being represented without chewing up a character slot. (I'm still unamused that they kept a clone of Link in, but maybe they differentiated him.)
 
Tails and Knuckles cant even do what sonic does. And shadow fights completely different, so I guess you are safe.

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There's no ability of Smash Sonic that would be impossible for them. They would be missing some of their own characteristic abilities though.

What he said. Only thing I can think of that they cant do that Smash Sonic can is the homing attack and obviously the Final Smash (if they decide to keep it the same)
 
With Brawl mod character you are better off using palette swaps as you know they'll work fine.

Newer models, especially imports can work alright but if you go for some of the early stuff expect weird collisions and throws that instantly throw you across the screen.
 
What he said. Only thing I can think of that they cant do that Smash Sonic can is the homing attack and obviously the Final Smash (if they decide to keep it the same)

Knuckles and Tails have had super forms before, so that's hardly out of the question. Neither would be perfectly represented, but it's not that big a stretch.
 
This most likely means we'll get a female pokemon trainer and animal crossing villager. But, you know, I won't hold my breath. This could be something specific to Wii Fit Trainer.
 
I'm sorry but I found that hilarious that people actually want that to happens. What about those virgins' eyes!?!?

He's going to be a pretty popular character among gay and female players. A good selling point for those markets.
I wonder if Male WFT is going to have Female WFT's...graceful movements, like Sebastian in TTT2.

I haven't seen any movements so far that would look too feminine for him so I'm sure he'll have the same moveset.
 
Huh... never played the 2d games? There's no ability of Smash Sonic that would be impossible for them. They would be missing some of their own characteristic abilities though.


I have, I also play the newer games as well. Sega has kind of devorced a lot of characters from their pasts. So while admidly tails could do and amy rose. As of 3d and beyond, tails flies and knuckles punches. I do not think sega would be ok with it, aside from what lost world was suppousd to be, they have shown they are content with how the charactes are.
Also homing attack, they can't do that, also Knuckles like shadow and Blaze have the added bonus of having move set potential far greater than sonic. I like Knux Shadow and Blaze but yo, I would be pissed if I one of them somehow got in, but it was as an alt. That is like if their was a super man alt for batman in some game. Why even do that, it would just be dissapointing just make em an assit if you can't make them a character or leave em

Despite what one may think, sega gives a very large peice of poo about how sonic is represented. Even if it does not look like it.
 
Huh. When I said last night that the most horrifying thing Sakurai could do for Halloween is show off an actual tasteful picture of WFT, I wasn't expecting this.

I don't really care about the male trainer, but the implications of alt costumes in this picture are crazy awesome.
 
This most likely means we'll get a female pokemon trainer and animal crossing villager. But, you know, I won't hold my breath. This could be something specific to Wii Fit Trainer.

The main issue with female Trainer would be her Pokemon. How would they be differentiated from the male trainer? More extra colors? Some random costume parts? Actually attempt to skin other random Pokemon onto their skeletons? It's not as simple as the villager and Wii Fit Trainer.

Also homing attack, they can't do that
Its been a while since I played it, but couldn't everyone do that in Sonic Heroes?

That is like if their was a super man alt for batman in some game. Why even do that, it would just be dissapointing just make em an assit if you can't make them a character or leave em out.

No, it'd be like if there were a Nightwing or Robin alt for Batman in some Batman game.
 
Huh. When I said last night that the most horrifying thing Sakurai could do for Halloween is show off an actual tasteful picture of WFT, I wasn't expecting this.

I don't really care about the male trainer, but the implications of alt costumes in this picture are crazy awesome.

Exactly. If WFT gets a male counterpart, I'm sure the Villager is getting a female one as well.

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Hopefully this just means more costumes. If Wario is back I hope he has his two costumes.
Dr.Mario please
 
The main issue with female Trainer would be her Pokemon. How would they be differentiated from the male trainer? More extra colors? Some random costume parts? Actually attempt to skin other random Pokemon onto their skeletons? It's not as simple as the villager and Wii Fit Trainer.

Give those pokemon the girly colors since they don't have problem to give pokemon different colors in Brawl.
 
The main issue with female Trainer would be her Pokemon. How would they be differentiated from the male trainer? More extra colors? Some random costume parts? Actually attempt to skin other random Pokemon onto their skeletons? It's not as simple as the villager and Wii Fit Trainer.
Dunno, giving her female Pokemon might be a start.
 
Its been a while since I played it, but couldn't everyone do that in Sonic Heroes?



No, it'd be like if there were a Nightwing or Robin alt for Batman in some Batman game.

No, only speed characters, knuckles. And tails did not have homing attacks or spindashes in the adevture games either.

Also no it would not be, because nightwing doesn't have powers like batman and was trained by him. Like I said supes, hal, or hawkman.


I mean it works for tails, and that is good enough. But when you venture into shadow or knuckles territory its a downgrade. Like can't I spit hot rhymes while I punch you with my emword power. Moveset potential wasted.
 
That comment about costumes hurting uniqueness was a reply to a question about customizable costumes, not about alternate outfits. Giving the player the ability to add a straw hat and leather jacket to Mario is very different from allowing them to choose a preset "Doctor Mario" model for him.

Really? I remember Wario's alt being mentioned but heh I guess I'm mixing things up. Now ill patiently wait for the mask marth alt.
 
I don't think this confirms alt. costumes for everybody whatsoever. WFT and Villager are going to be special cases just like Wario.

Until I see something like Dr. Mario, there's no reason to get excited and start speculating lol. I mean, it's certainly cool he actually put in a male WFT but still, it only confirms Wario won't be the only character with an alt. costume.
 
I don't think this confirms alt. costumes for everybody whatsoever. WFT and Villager are going to be special cases just like Wario.

More than likely, yeah. I wouldn't rule out a female Pokemon Trainer either. Then again, you don't exactly play as the Trainer. It'd be odd to choose which gender you wanted to be.
 
Some of the reactions on the other thread are hilarious. Worst Smash yet, people wanting to skip the game because of these characters, FWFT was interesting on reveal, but now it's lame. lol

If it's not some cool character like Skull Kid™, Shadow™ or Minecraft Guy™ people freak out.

I'm glad Sakurai's doing things no one would expect. In a world where the internet spoils everyone, it's nice to have a surprise for once.
 
So I went to try and find that ridley mod to see it in an actual clear shot, I ended up down some rabbit hole of smash mods.


There's some crazy shit in here, seriously:

Was shaking my head in disgust for the most part, especially at that last one which is basically just a "le ebic memes are so funny right guys xD" character.

There are actually some pretty cool ones on there, but why does the smash mod community produce so much shit?

The evolution of Salty Bet is here!
 
I HOPE there is an improved stage builder, I have said this but I ffeel like it should be brought up again.

What would you like to seee in a stage builde, I would like to see imported music so I can fight to inappropriately fitting songs..
 
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