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Just think of it this way: If you never broke it off with her, you'd only be holding her back from finding someone happy with her. Plus, you'd be staying miserable.

I hope she does very soon because she is amazing. i just can't fight feelings and i can't fake them. As bad as this was i would like to think that it would have only been worse had i waited longer.
 
No no. I was talking about staying close friends with someone you developed feelings for in general. She and my ex are two different people. I was referring to someone who I got close to, developed feelings after that and since then it has been a rollercoaster.

I think we both got confused lol.

Oh, okay. Now I get it. In that case your situation was the same as mine. How long were you friends before you developed feelings for her?
 
I hope she does very soon because she is amazing. i just can't fight feelings and i can't fake them. As bad as this was i would like to think that it would have only been worse had i waited longer.

know that feel. so sense in beating yourself up about it. you did the right thing :)
 
Being caught in limbo with a girl is really hard. She says she was going to think about meeting up so we can discuss things but trying to be patient and giving her the time and patience to figure things out is difficult and painful. I'm trying to keep busy with school and playing call of duty and battlefield and my friends and i went out for drinks last night. But even when I'm doing things, I'm thinking of her and what I would say if we do get to talk things out. Despite promising myself to give her a few days of space to think things through, I am continuously tempted to pick up my phone and send her a text or call her. Dating especially in tumultuous times is a test of one's self control and ability to weather emotional challenges.
 
Being caught in limbo with a girl is really hard. She says she was going to think about meeting up so we can discuss things but trying to be patient and giving her the time and patience to figure things out is difficult and painful. I'm trying to keep busy with school and playing call of duty and battlefield and my friends and i went out for drinks last night. But even when I'm doing things, I'm thinking of her and what I would say if we do get to talk things out. Despite promising myself to give her a few days of space to think things through, I am continuously tempted to pick up my phone and send her a text or call her. Dating especially in tumultuous times is a test of one's self control and ability to weather emotional challenges.

Have to fight that urge, absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that...

I'm msging girls on OKC to see if I can get some dates while I give space to the other girl. Just messaged a cute Asian and she says she wants to get coffee this afternoon.

edit: and, it's a date!
 
I'm msging girls on OKC to see if I can get some dates while I give space to the other girl. Just messaged a cute Asian and she says she wants to get coffee this afternoon.

I might try that though I am really picky with online dating I also don't want to be trying to meet other girls when the only thing I want to do is salvage things with this current girl, it wouldn't be fair to the others. If things fall apart with her completely then I would put myself back in the dating pool.
 
Have to fight that urge, absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that...

I'm msging girls on OKC to see if I can get some dates while I give space to the other girl. Just messaged a cute Asian and she says she wants to get coffee this afternoon.

edit: and, it's a date!

Best of Luck Man!
 
Hey, GAF

I'm seeing this girl again on Saturday (went out with her last Saturday for food/cinema) and she said yes to going out again but I really don't have any ideas for what to do.
For the record, we're both 18, not big drinkers (but legal in the UK) and the weather is going to be pretty shitty, and it just doesn't seem like there is a lot to do around here.

any ideas are appreciated! i'm hella nervous
 
Being caught in limbo with a girl is really hard. She says she was going to think about meeting up so we can discuss things but trying to be patient and giving her the time and patience to figure things out is difficult and painful. I'm trying to keep busy with school and playing call of duty and battlefield and my friends and i went out for drinks last night. But even when I'm doing things, I'm thinking of her and what I would say if we do get to talk things out. Despite promising myself to give her a few days of space to think things through, I am continuously tempted to pick up my phone and send her a text or call her. Dating especially in tumultuous times is a test of one's self control and ability to weather emotional challenges.

DON'T. Put the phone down! :D

This is why I want nothing to do with other people other than friends. It's stupid as hell :P
 
Hey, GAF

I'm seeing this girl again on Saturday (went out with her last Saturday for food/cinema) and she said yes to going out again but I really don't have any ideas for what to do.
For the record, we're both 18, not big drinkers (but legal in the UK) and the weather is going to be pretty shitty, and it just doesn't seem like there is a lot to do around here.

any ideas are appreciated! i'm hella nervous
What are the two of you into? If you're both into boardgames maybe bring some to a cafe and chill.

DON'T. Put the phone down! :D

This is why I want nothing to do with other people other than friends. It's stupid as hell :P
It doesn't have to be stupid, thankfully.
 
So I'm texting that same girl.
I saw her last night and I've been really sick for the past 3 weeks. We got some work done and it was peachy, but eventually I just went home.

This morning my phone goes off and I wake up and she has sent "Are you feeling better?"

We go back and forth for a while. We have a test tonight so I say

"Want to get on Skype and study together?"
She replies "Well I'm in the library so I'm not sure how people would feel about me talking a lot."
So I just say "K ttyl"
There is a 15 minute pause and she says "Oh. Ok then."

Um. That doesn't sound good to me. It sounds like she wanted me to say something else but I'm not sure what?
What should I do?
This is a dating-age emergency, this just happening.


Did I just blow it?

edit: I texted back "oh, did you want to meet up? I'm still at home."
and she sent back "No, it's fine. Whatever you want to do."

=/

Last night she said we should meet up today but she said in the afternoon.

Maybe i'm just not up with the current lingo but what does K ttyl even mean? Personally i avoid texting things like that and it stops people from misinterpreting what i'm saying. There are times where something simple would suffice but that situation isn't it imo.
 
Like 3 to 4 months of everyday talking and messaging.

We just "clicked" as friends I guess.

Ah okay. My friend and I had class together and for the first few days she would just sit silently in the back of the class. I had only met her once prior to having that class but I thought I'd be friendly and start talking to her. She's been my best friend for a few years now, which is why I wasn't willing to let the feelings talk destroy the whole friendship. I've started realizing that I never become attracted to a woman based on looks. It's always been their personalities that I gravitate towards. I take this as a good thing since it means I've avoided being superficial.
 
I said "you can come study with me at my place, or we can just meet up after class"

all she said was "Are you studying right now?"



....

oh god she's coming over
what have i done
i'm terrified

Did you survive the encounter? Are you still alive? Where's the update!

Maybe i'm just not up with the current lingo but what does K ttyl even mean? Personally i avoid texting things like that and it stops people from misinterpreting what i'm saying. There are times where something simple would suffice but that situation isn't it imo.

"Ok, talk to you later"
 
DON'T. Put the phone down! :D

This is why I want nothing to do with other people other than friends. It's stupid as hell :P

Im resisting the temptation. I was thinking of messaging her thursday morning and having a talk then and seeing if i can persuade her to meet and have our talk. If I don't get anywhere then, I think I'll tell her if she decides she wants to talk things out she knows how to reach me.



Edit

I know its foolish to try to read into silly things but I logged into my POF account and she hasn't logged into her profile in the last two days and I doesn't look she has for a long time. I know I should not read anything into it but at least so far she hasn't been looking at other guys online. Maybe she really is legitimately confused and doesn't what she wants with me.
 
So recently, I've started developing feelings for a fwb. We've been doing more romantic things than I feel like fwbs do (slow dancing in my room, going out for dinners, etc.), but I also know that she's been seeing someone else beside me.

All fwbs do. It's normal. Speaking of which, you should take advantage of the same unwritten rule ;D

I was going to tell her how I've been feeling on Halloween because we made out the night before (No. I wasn't going to show her Taylor Swift lyrics -only teasing Kopite-

people should stop giving Kopite shit since 9 posters out of 10 who "commented" over his business have a track record way worst then his. I've read your post history and I consider you one of the "good guys" (losing the weight, giving compliments to other posters): don't mix yourself up with the people who trick themselves into thinking they are good with girls by making fun of the guy who grabbed his balls, put himself out there, and had to deal with a rejection.
Until you see other guys as rivals (either better or worst than you consider yourself to be) you will just waste self-esteem, time and opportunities: your chances with a girl are not compromised by the amount of people she has around. You get a girl? it's your merit. You loose a girl? it's your fault. Obsessing over other guys will make you stress over factors you can't control: you'll drive yourself crazy and you will misread the situations you'll find yourself in.

or give her an epic crown of sonnetts, I was just going to say "I'm curious how you feel about me because I want to understand you better" or something similar just because it kind of hurts to know that we do these things and then she does them with the other guy).

Is this the girl who was into poliamory?
Who came up with the fwbs idea, you or her? If she came up with the idea it's ok to ask her "what we are", since she is the one calling the shots. If it was you, it's a huge mistake and you will loose her.

We got drunk at this party, and I suggest going to go see a movie, and she says "I kinda wanna call the other guy", so I ask "are you two a thing?" and she says "I kinda like him." I didn't tell her how I felt, and I went back to our dorm after that.

Anyone could have read through that reaction. She knows his presence affects you. She just doesn't know how much. Yet.

I think what I'm going to do is pull back completely. I still have to see her because she's a member of a club that I happen to be the president of, but I don't have to give her my time and attention. I intend to be cordial, but I don't intend to give her any power or headspace. I want someone who will enjoy spending time with me the same amount I do with them. I'd always have to ask her to hang out and contact her first. She'd show signs of interest, but I'd rather be with someone who wants me more or as much as I want them. What do you think, GAF? Is pulling away and ignoring her a good plan?

Again, depends on who came up with the fwbs idea. Be prepared because she is going to hit you with a lot of baggage coming the next days. She is going to start to talk a lot about him and if you show any reaction she will come up with a master plan to have you two (you and the other guy) meet, just to feel the attention of being contended between two men.

I can tell she can kind of sense my indifference, she noticed that I was gone all weekend and I never told her I was leaving or that I left and she just has this vibe when I'm around her...What's that mean?

Your indifference is only stalling her: it will only work if she thinks you've found someone else you prefer over her. Otherwise, sooner or later she will try to find out why you are indifferent and she won't do that by asking for an explanation. She will force that out with a little bit of manipulation, and if you are building up frustration over this situation you will explode with a reaction that will make her feel she has captured your heart and mind: if she saw you as unattainable and then you are going to show an exaggerated overreaction, she will completely loose interest.
Also, since you considered yourself curious about poliamory, open relationships and fwbs, giving her the cold shoulder impedes you to explore this side of you. It would be better to go for it and understand yourself and your needs to a deeper degree, whatever the outcome. Keep in mind that, much like when you think you wouldn't be jealous and then you turn out to be, the opposite is also true: maybe you think you won't be able to digest the idea of your love interest sharing herself with others, but then when you are facing the actual thing it doesn't phase you that much (and it actually excites you).
What you are doing now is kind of a dick move: you are giving her the guilt and the responsibility for an "arrangement" you were ok with until a couple of days ago. Not cool.
 
"Ok, talk to you later"

Thanks. Maybe i'm old fashioned but personally i kinda find this type of thing a little offensive. Like you can't even be bothered to type out a 5 word response, it only takes a few seconds. Especially when you're first getting to know someone. It's not really a big deal but i feel like people would probably avoid some confusion about what their texts mean and the tone behind it if they didn't send messages like that.

Not sure how everyone else feels about it.

Friends aren't stupid :)

They can be. They're the exact same people as the ones on the dating scene and are capable of making the same mistakes.
 
Well, I thought I was super ultra friend zoned, she has said as much multiple times, even today in my apartment. But I wasn't :) Weird.
 
Well, I thought I was super ultra friend zoned, she has said as much multiple times, even today in my apartment. But I wasn't :) Weird.


Maybe she just changed her mind

We're you trying to change, or did you just accept the friend zone?
Cus If you just accepted it, then maybe you showing less interest got her interested
 
I might try that though I am really picky with online dating I also don't want to be trying to meet other girls when the only thing I want to do is salvage things with this current girl, it wouldn't be fair to the others. If things fall apart with her completely then I would put myself back in the dating pool.

I know she has dated during this time, she has told me as much and I am fine with that. If she needs to see other people to realize how great of a catch I would be then that is up to her. :)

She keeps updating her OKC profile with rules for dating her which all don't\didn't apply to me. Doesn't seem like she is having much luck really but I am not going to just wait around for her. I'll give her two weeks and then follow up.

edit: If it is anything like the last time, I expect her to contact me first.
 
I know she has dated during this time, she has told me as much and I am fine with that. If she needs to see other people to realize how great of a catch I would be then that is up to her. :)

She keeps updating her OKC profile with rules for dating her which all don'tdidn't apply to me. Doesn't seem like she is having much luck really but I am not going to just wait around for her. I'll give her two weeks and then follow up.

Its a little different in my situation. I don't think she's been dating, she has been super busy with work and personal stuff that she probably hasn't been dating. Also from the looks of things she hasn't been on her pof profile since she started dating me. I know that doesn't preclude there being another guy but it doesn't seem likely. She also hasn't been on since things happened yesterday so I dunno if that means she still is trying to figure what she wants from me or not. Things like this can drive a guy crazy.
 
Maybe she just changed her mind

We're you trying to change, or did you just accept the friend zone?
Cus If you just accepted it, then maybe you showing less interest got her interested
I asked her afterwards if this was planned (it was, she brought a condom) and when she decided that she wanted to (like several weeks ago). She just kept reaffirming the friend zone to not look like a skank/slut. This was only supposed to be a lunch meetup and hangout, yet she jumped me after a movie together. We've been talking for a few weeks, met online, and only met briefly last Saturday night. I haven't tried changing myself, she was like "I want a boyfriend and children down the line, no one night stands!" so I was like okay, I guess we won't have sex then xD Because I can't and won't decide if you are girlfriend material without ever having met you. Or had had sex with you. But I think my philosophical sides changed her mind, we had some overly long nightly general relationship discussions, and she started to open up a lot more about her feelings.
 
Well anyhow it's been more than 2 days now. The reason why I don't understand this is because she herself asked me to contact her when we departed. My text message was just in the lines of "hey it's me from last week (she has my number saved) and I had a great time. I checked out that movie you mentioned and I am intrigued now". No questions or what's up or anything.

Anyway I wonder if this is it for me if she doesn't sends any text? Should I even bother with a 2nd text or a call over the weekend and give it one last try? It'd be very unfortunate if this is it though, she seemed cool and I thought both of us had a good time.

Gave her a call a few hours ago, no answer so left a voice mail and not expecting anything back.
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I'm a bit bummed out because you don't see many geeky/gamer chicks around here who want to travel to Antarctica and climb Everest heh !
I have absolutely terrible luck with women, even the ones who seem like they might be interested end up ignoring me (this won't be the first time). At least she could respond and turn me down considering she was the one who asked me to contact her. I swear girls are dicks man !
except the ones who happen to be my friends.
I'm one of those dudes who mostly hang around with women, so confidence is not an issue for me and yet I've have never had a GF, guess I'll die a virgin.
 
Knowledge bombs.

It's not really an arrangement per se. It kind of went unspoken. We both talked a lot about how we didn't want anything "serious" and things just kinda...clicked. And I went in for the kiss and she reciprocated. I don't know if it's a dick move to just walk away from things. She has him, I don't have to play into anything, and I can start dating around and being free. It seems like everyone wins. If she had feelings for me, I feel like she would try to speak to me more or at least try to spend more time with me the way she does with him. I know she hangs out with him quite a bit. These are all words of jealousy, and I think they show that I'm not really finding any of this exciting, just...hurtful. And there are no "shoulds" and "should nots". I'm not mad at her or at him, but I think it's important not to be afraid to walk away from the table when you know you're just going to wind up hurt. I don't think poly is for me if I feel unequal, and I definitely don't feel equal. It hurts to know that after she gets done kissing me, she's spending the night at his dorm room. As for the teasing, you're right, that was shitty of me. I'm sorry, everyone. We're all growing and learning together, and that's a beautiful thing. The benefit of mistakes is that you get the chance to learn a bit about who you are. I like to think that people are kind of like cats. Their love and affection is earned, but if you're constantly calling them or trying to scoop them up, then you're suffocating them. Yes, you have to pet them occassionally (i.e. make the first move), but they'll come to you on their own if you don't pursue them and they like you enough. I'm merely done pursuing her, it's not helping me and my feelings, and she seems to be doing fine, so it's mutually beneficial. Thanks for all of your help! I really mean that. It's always nice to see a long, thought-out response. I really had to dig through and reflect on my feelings. I'm curious though, what do you suggest I do, instead?
 
I was unable to maintain discipline and I sent her a text saying hey a few minutes ago. I figur if she responds she and i can have a chat about things and I can again suggest she and i meet to talk things out and if she still is undecided I will tell her to take her time and think things over and then leave it at that for a week or so. If I don't hear anything from her before thursday, I'll send her another text suggesting we get together and talk things out and if I don't hear anything then I will completely go dark unless she messages me.


Also I went on pof and i found a couple of girls, I may start talking to casually while I sort things out.
 
I was unable to maintain discipline and I sent her a text saying hey a few minutes ago. I figur if she responds she and i can have a chat about things and I can again suggest she and i meet to talk things out and if she still is undecided I will tell her to take her time and think things over and then leave it at that for a week or so. If I don't hear anything from her before thursday, I'll send her another text suggesting we get together and talk things out and if I don't hear anything then I will completely go dark unless she messages me.

I wouldn't recommend that. It seems to me like you're shifting goal posts for yourself so that you don't have to cut things off. The problem is when someone close to you is pushing you away from them, the human reaction is generally to pull in closer. This only serves to suffocate the other person and makes you come off as needy. If she's already frustrated with the way the relationship is going, coming off as needy will only hinder things.

I would focus on myself. Do something new that you've always wanted to go do. Read a book you told yourself you didn't have time to read. Take up a new hobby. Try baking or dancing or learning something cool like magic. And yes, absolutely talk to other girls. You've gone this far in your life without that specific person, and logically when there are 6.3 billion people in the world, why try to spend time with one that doesn't seem to enjoy your company?
 
I wouldn't recommend that. It seems to me like you're shifting goal posts for yourself so that you don't have to cut things off. The problem is when someone close to you is pushing you away from them, the human reaction is generally to pull in closer. This only serves to suffocate the other person and makes you come off as needy. If she's already frustrated with the way the relationship is going, coming off as needy will only hinder things.

I would focus on myself. Do something new that you've always wanted to go do. Read a book you told yourself you didn't have time to read. Take up a new hobby. Try baking or dancing or learning something cool like magic. And yes, absolutely talk to other girls. You've gone this far in your life without that specific person, and logically when there are 6.3 billion people in the world, why try to spend time with one that doesn't seem to enjoy your company?


What should I do if I she replies to my text?

But I do agree, I need to avoid coming off needy while she sorts out what she wants from us and whether she wants to sit down, talk and try to make things work between us. I figured one more text suggesting that we should talk things out wouldn't hurt but maybe it would. I dunno, I'll think about it, unless she messages me I'm not going to message her until thursday at the earliest now
 
Gave her a call a few hours ago, no answer so left a voice mail and not expecting anything back.
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I'm a bit bummed out because you don't see many geeky/gamer chicks around here who want to travel to Antarctica and climb Everest heh !
I have absolutely terrible luck with women, even the ones who seem like they might be interested end up ignoring me (this won't be the first time). At least she could respond and turn me down considering she was the one who asked me to contact her. I swear girls are dicks man !
except the ones who happen to be my friends.
I'm one of those dudes who mostly hang around with women, so confidence is not an issue for me and yet I've have never had a GF, guess I'll die a virgin.

If nothing ever works out for you, then it's safe to say that the problem is the common denominator.

Would you want to date someone as negative as you sound in this post?
 
If nothing ever works out for you, then it's safe to say that the problem is the common denominator.

Would you want to date someone as negative as you sound in this post?
What do you mean by common denominator.
Regarding the negativity, I never let others see it, hell my friends think I never really have any issues just because they always see me happy and the guy friends see me hanging around with women.

The fact that I keep these things to myself bugs me a lot and I think it makes it worse because for one, I've never had success in this area ever, and the other being that I don't believe that you can simply keep brushing them off like it's nothing and continue trying repeatedly until you find someone who doesn't rejects you, because honestly, you can only try a certain number of times before the rejections start to affect you. I see every single one of my friends being successful with girls while I on the other hand have issues getting even a first date out of someone. I genuinely thought that this woman would at least give me a chance because the chemistry seemed great when we kept talking for hours they day we met.
 
What do you mean by common denominator.
Regarding the negativity, I never let others see it, hell my friends think I never really have any issues just because they always see me happy and the guy friends see me hanging around with women.

The fact that I keep these things to myself bugs me a lot and I think it makes it worse because for one, I've never had success in this area ever, and the other being that I don't believe that you can simply keep brushing them off like it's nothing and continue trying repeatedly until you find someone who doesn't rejects you, because honestly, you can only try a certain number of times before the rejections start to affect you. I see every single one of my friends being successful with girls while I on the other hand have issues getting even a first date out of someone. I genuinely thought that this woman would at least give me a chance because the chemistry seemed great when we kept talking for hours they day we met.

If you kept eating strawberries, and every time you did you got sick, but you saw everyone else eating strawberries just fine, would you come to the conclusion that strawberries were bad?

I'm sure you think you're keeping this negativity to yourself, but that sort of bitterness and negativity isn't something that you can just cover up. People see it and it affects the way you interact and makes people not want to be around you. Negative people aren't just inwardly negative. You need to figure out what it is about you that makes people not want to be intimate with you, but I'm guessing this negativity has a lot to do with it.
 
I was unable to maintain discipline and I sent her a text saying hey a few minutes ago. I figur if she responds she and i can have a chat about things and I can again suggest she and i meet to talk things out and if she still is undecided I will tell her to take her time and think things over and then leave it at that for a week or so. If I don't hear anything from her before thursday, I'll send her another text suggesting we get together and talk things out and if I don't hear anything then I will completely go dark unless she messages me.


Also I went on pof and i found a couple of girls, I may start talking to casually while I sort things out.

Nooooooooooooo.

Hope it works out.
 
What should I do if I she replies to my text?

But I do agree, I need to avoid coming off needy while she sorts out what she wants from us and whether she wants to sit down, talk and try to make things work between us. I figured one more text suggesting that we should talk things out wouldn't hurt but maybe it would. I dunno, I'll think about it, unless she messages me I'm not going to message her until thursday at the earliest now

I wouldn't even do it on Thursday. Let her come to you. She can't keep you hanging like that without any closure whatsoever and she knows it. Just...try to enjoy yourself and do things that YOU like to do. Because, while yes, her wants are important, yours are just as much, and it's about time you gave yourself a little you-cation. There are so many awesome things you can do single that you can't as a couple. Going to bars and clubs and being able to dance with girls, being able to meet and socialize more freely, not having to worry about another person who isn't a friend or family, etc.
 
Back from my date. She was cute, very intelligent, very studies oriented, but I didn't feel any romantic connection. Still, would like to help her experience new things. There is friendship potential there and with her being new to the area we both need friends.

All in all, a really nice experience and I got more practice selling myself.
 
Jesus christ breaking up with someone is hard.

(and I say this as someone who had a bad breakup like 9 months ago, where I was the dumped)

Another thing to add to the long list of things I'm horrible at: breaking up with someone. I'm a total douchebag, i feel like the worst person in this planet :(

I hope she does very soon because she is amazing. i just can't fight feelings and i can't fake them. As bad as this was i would like to think that it would have only been worse had i waited longer.


Oh hey look at that, I scroll up a bit and see someone went through the exact same thing earlier today. Weird. I second everything above here.
 
I wouldn't even do it on Thursday. Let her come to you. She can't keep you hanging like that without any closure whatsoever and she knows it. Just...try to enjoy yourself and do things that YOU like to do. Because, while yes, her wants are important, yours are just as much, and it's about time you gave yourself a little you-cation. There are so many awesome things you can do single that you can't as a couple. Going to bars and clubs and being able to dance with girls, being able to meet and socialize more freely, not having to worry about another person who isn't a friend or family, etc.



Well I started talking be it in this girl for tonight and I'm going to continue to do so and maybe even meet up with her. I'm not sure what I'm going to do about the current girl. I feel strongly enough for her and my desire to keep seeing her I might again suggest we meet and talk things out. If after that she's still not sure or wants to think, I'll tell her let me know what she decides and leave it that unless she comes to me.


Though she said she didn't know what she wanted and when I suggested we meet and talk things out she said she'd think about it so hopefully she will get in touch with me soon and give me some closure one way or another. Whether that means the end or that she wants to try and work things out.
 
I can't tell if a girl likes me or not. I am attracted to here, I think. She's adorable and smart. Sometimes I think she likes me but sometimes I can't tell if she's just the super friendly type. She has said before she is the shy type though when it comes to certain situations. I wish she would just give me a proper signal, which may never come since some girls just don't do that regardless of how they feel about you. Maybe I'm just blind to them. She always says hi to me in this weird way where when i come in the room she says it with some character to it. I haven't seen her talk to other boys so I'm not sure if she's just like that towards all of them. She speaks to girls differently. She also really seems interested in talking to me often and is kind of playful when chatting. I just can't tell. I'm shy myself and it's a little scary putting yourself out there. Is there anything else I should look for? She asked me if it was too flirty if you ask a guy to carve pumpkins with each other which was an odd question. I think she wanted to ask a guy she wasn't that interested in to do something with her. She has never asked me to do anything. I just can't tell. I think she is a bit interested in me but I just don't know. It's like she wants me to make a move based on nothing.
 
Question:

Should I give it a shot with a girl that seems interested in me but I'm kind of not? I really don't know what my feelings are for this girl.

It's kind of funny. I see her and I smile. I think she's pretty. She's being really supportive trough these times where I'm going through rough situations at home and with my health.

The thing is...I don't see myself with this girl. I don't think it'll be a serious relationship. I obviously won't want to waste her time and mine.

Plus, right now I don't have a car, so going out will be a little bit difficult. Time? No way. I work on the weekends and I would only see her at school.

And I think that I'm just feeling lonely and want someone to support me. But god, I don't know what to do.

Whatcha say, Gaf?
 
Back from my date. She was cute, very intelligent, very studies oriented, but I didn't feel any romantic connection. Still, would like to help her experience new things. There is friendship potential there and with her being new to the area we both need friends.

All in all, a really nice experience and I got more practice selling myself.

I've had this feeling after some dates. Like, the "I wouldn't date her but I can see her as a friend" feeling. I usually never see the girl again. I meet the majority of girls through dating sites so maybe it's different people you meet in IRL, but in my experience neither party are going on dates to make friends. There's always some sort of rejection involved when either person sees the other person only as a friend. It's kind of hard to form a friendship with rejection as a starting point.
 
If you kept eating strawberries, and every time you did you got sick, but you saw everyone else eating strawberries just fine, would you come to the conclusion that strawberries were bad?
I'd come to the conclusion that my digestive system is faulty.

I'm sure you think you're keeping this negativity to yourself, but that sort of bitterness and negativity isn't something that you can just cover up. People see it and it affects the way you interact and makes people not want to be around you. Negative people aren't just inwardly negative. You need to figure out what it is about you that makes people not want to be intimate with you, but I'm guessing this negativity has a lot to do with it.
If you are referring to the girls are dicks remark, then I should mention that I meant that as a joke.

I believe the reason why no one wants to be intimate with me is because I myself am too reserved, I never really hit on girls (or ask them out for that matter) but when I do, I'm too embarrassed to do anything even remotely intimate which makes them feel I'm only interested in friendship and nothing more. With that said I don't know what the hell happened with this chick, maybe she had a change of mind, maybe she was already seeing someone...I'll never know.
 
Question:

Should I give it a shot with a girl that seems interested in me but I'm kind of not? I really don't know what my feelings are for this girl.

It's kind of funny. I see her and I smile. I think she's pretty. She's being really supportive trough these times where I'm going through rough situations at home and with my health.

The thing is...I don't see myself with this girl. I don't think it'll be a serious relationship. I obviously won't want to waste her time and mine.

Plus, right now I don't have a car, so going out will be a little bit difficult. Time? No way. I work on the weekends and I would only see her at school.

And I think that I'm just feeling lonely and want someone to support me. But god, I don't know what to do.

Whatcha say, Gaf?

No, not fair towards her. But If you do something make it clear that you're not interested in something serious.
 
I've had this feeling after some dates. Like, the "I wouldn't date her but I can see her as a friend" feeling. I usually never see the girl again. I meet the majority of girls through dating sites so maybe it's different people you meet in IRL, but in my experience neither party are going on dates to make friends. There's always some sort of rejection involved when either person sees the other person only as a friend. It's kind of hard to form a friendship with rejection as a starting point.

Friendship where one person has feelings aren't really a good idea. I told that to my girl when she said she wanted to be just friends. You can't be friends with someone when all you want to do is wrap your arms around them and kiss them. There's too much bagagge. There comes a point of no return for platonic friendship.
 
Thanks. Maybe i'm old fashioned but personally i kinda find this type of thing a little offensive. Like you can't even be bothered to type out a 5 word response, it only takes a few seconds. Especially when you're first getting to know someone. It's not really a big deal but i feel like people would probably avoid some confusion about what their texts mean and the tone behind it if they didn't send messages like that.

Not sure how everyone else feels about it.

I really don't think it's a factor at all.

Did you survive the encounter? Are you still alive? Where's the update!

Nothing happened.
She initially said she was coming over, then decided not to because she didn't have enough time because she'd get here and then have to go right back to school for class.

I skipped out class and during the class she texted me saying "Are you not here?" Then after class she texted me and asked if she could still come over. So she came over but nothing happened. We did some studying, which was really terrible because neither of us knew what we were doing or how to solve the problems. I was also kind of drunk so I rode with her to the test. In fact I was pretty drunk all day yesterday and so everything is kind of a blur.

And she kept whining that it was too hot in my apartment =/

It's 8:30am where I am, I think I'll text her in an hour and ask something kind of silly just to see how she responds and see where I stand with her.

In hindsight it probably looks pretty bad. I've been drinking to help with this weird pain in my chest, but from her perspective, I didn't show up to class, and then she arrived to find me drinking before a physics test. And so drunk that she had to give me a ride. Lol.
 
Just a little update from me.

I ended up talking with this cute girl on POF with a lot of similar interests and really hit it off. She said she'd be very interested in going on a date so I'm going to continue to talk with her and probably arrange a date with her. I've also decided I am going to message the first girl tomorrow, have a little conversation with her and suggest we meet to talk things out. I am doing this is mainly for my peace of mind and I'm quite prepared to walk away from her at that point and leave the future of her and me in her court while I do other things.
 
I can't tell if a girl likes me or not. I am attracted to here, I think. She's adorable and smart. Sometimes I think she likes me but sometimes I can't tell if she's just the super friendly type. She has said before she is the shy type though when it comes to certain situations. I wish she would just give me a proper signal, which may never come since some girls just don't do that regardless of how they feel about you. Maybe I'm just blind to them. She always says hi to me in this weird way where when i come in the room she says it with some character to it. I haven't seen her talk to other boys so I'm not sure if she's just like that towards all of them. She speaks to girls differently. She also really seems interested in talking to me often and is kind of playful when chatting. I just can't tell. I'm shy myself and it's a little scary putting yourself out there. Is there anything else I should look for? She asked me if it was too flirty if you ask a guy to carve pumpkins with each other which was an odd question. I think she wanted to ask a guy she wasn't that interested in to do something with her. She has never asked me to do anything. I just can't tell. I think she is a bit interested in me but I just don't know. It's like she wants me to make a move based on nothing.

Just go for it. The worst that can happen is that she says no and you might be embarrassed for 10 minutes or so. But if you don't ask, you won't get a chance. Just don't take it personally if she says no and try again with someone else.
 
Zombie Alice violated my self-imposed no contact rule this morning at 7:20 am

Gee, I wonder if she is thinking about me? :)


Good luck man :). Still nothing from B. I'm really thinking its the end.


About the only things potentially working in my favour is that she re added me to fb after, I took her off in a moment of frustration on monday and that she still hasn't logged on pof. But both of those are stretching it and are likely entirely meaningless.
 
The only thing I remember is when we were sitting on the couch I kept brushing my hand against her hand and her knee everytime I would reach for something. I was drunk so my perception of everything is skewed, but I remember she didn't really move or seem to care.

She also at one point asked how old I was (because I live by myself in my own apartment and was drinking) and I said "24" and she was really surprised and kind of made a big deal out of it, and then eventually kind of meekly said "I'm 19".

I couldn't tell whether she thought my age was a good thing or a bad thing.

There's a lot of stuff about yesterday that was weird. She was here for about 2 hours but it seemed like 15 minutes and I don't have 2 hours worth of memory from while she was here. I'm not really sure what we did. Did we really just sit there on the couch for two hours? I remember the only time we weren't on the couch is when I got up and went outside and we chilled on the balcony for a bit. Other than that I have no clue what happened and I don't know what she thinks of me anymore.

I was sure she was REALLY into me, but I figured if she came over she would try to do something. But really she just seemed kind of nervous and focused on the test. I felt like maybe I should have tried something but I didn't want to bother her if her mind was on the test so much.

She instantly made herself at home when she got here, moving chairs around and plugging in her phone. Not sure if I liked that.

After the test she woke me up from where I was sleeping on a bench waiting. It was raining pretty hard so we had to run through the rain laughing under her umbrella and I remember she kept saying "oh no I'm gonna get sick!" because she didn't have a jacket.

So this morning I texted her "Well did you get sick?" and she just said "Lol not yet!"

I want to talk to her more but not really sure what to say.

Also last night while I was drunk and waiting for her to get out of the test, I texted another girl that I really liked and asked if she wants to get lunch.

I haven't seen her since the end of last semester (around 6 months). Last semester she said we should stay in contact but she never contacted me, I always had to text her first. I've tried to meet up with her a few times but every time she says she's busy but she always writes these HUGE texts telling me what's going on with her and asking how I'm doing and saying that she definitely wants to meet up sometime soon.

I don't get it.
I mean, actions speak louder than words. If she truly wanted to meet up or cared about me then she would make more of an effort, or at least contact me from time to time?

But on the other hand, if she doesn't care at all, why does she bother replying with these novel-sized, very warm and endearing messages about how she wants to meet up and it would be so fun? She always seems overjoyed that I have texted her but we never meet up.

Last night when I texted her, she said "Oh wow, I was literally just thinking about you.."

I mean wtf is that? You were thinking about me yet you wouldn't have texted me if I hadn't texted you.
 
I'd come to the conclusion that my digestive system is faulty.


If you are referring to the girls are dicks remark, then I should mention that I meant that as a joke.

I believe the reason why no one wants to be intimate with me is because I myself am too reserved, I never really hit on girls (or ask them out for that matter) but when I do, I'm too embarrassed to do anything even remotely intimate which makes them feel I'm only interested in friendship and nothing more. With that said I don't know what the hell happened with this chick, maybe she had a change of mind, maybe she was already seeing someone...I'll never know.

Embarrassed of what? If just flirting embarrasses you, of course people don't reciprocate. People want someone who's confident in who they are and what they want, same as you do.
 
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