Heropon Riki in Smash 4 confirmed.
Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS Thread 3: Ridley's Believe It or Not!
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Heropon Riki in Smash 4 confirmed.
RMS Gigantic
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The Steel Diver F2P game is expected to come out by the first quarter of 2014 (that is, before the end of Nintendo's current fiscal year). Thus, I fully to see the Steel Diver submarine be playable in Smash IV.
At the very least, I would like to see an eShop new IP composite character (Pushmo, Dillon, etc.) with the submarine as a final smash. Just imagine that big ol' thing fall out of the sky, rest asymmetrically on the stage's platforms, and then slide off.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Rolly polly keep on ROLLING!
Dillon playable and that sniper squid guy as an assist trophy.The Steel Diver F2P game is expected to come out by the first quarter of 2014 (that is, before the end of Nintendo's current fiscal year). Thus, I fully to see the Steel Diver submarine be playable in Smash IV.At the very least, I would like to see an eShop new IP composite character (Pushmo, Dillon, etc.) with the submarine as a final smash. Just imagine that big ol' thing fall out of the sky, rest asymmetrically on the stage's platforms, and then slide off.
theprodigy
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Riki sneaky!
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
You will get this Shulk and you will like it.
You're too big.
Not even his best armor.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Just for the record, Riki's english dubbed voice is shit, his japanese VA is much better.
theprodigy
Member
for the record, your opinion is wrong
There is no difference in the when comparing the "artistic integrity" of Ridley and Olimar. When it comes to overall tones they do differ vastly but so does MGS and Mario or DK and StarFox. Complaining about riding a car in a racing game is silly because its a childish racing game. If Sonic drove a car in a mainline Sonic game people would have more reason to complain and I am sure you are well aware of the absurdity of shadow driving in the games he has been in. Likewise it would be absurd for Olimar to punch out Snake or Samus shoot Mario in their respective games. Here in Smash however it's all fair game due to the absurdity of it all.
MH has a valid reason for not being included in Marvel. Not because its tonally different or concerned about its artistic integrity but because it doesn't really have a character iconic enough to add. It might seem similar but the difference is huge. and considering Animal Crosser has gotten in I doubt its as big of a concern for Nintendo. It shows they can make it happen if they so please. At least with the Animal crosser its been a similar design on the cover for ages.
ArchedThunder
Banned
For the record I agree and that this opinion is correct.
I haven't heard the Japanese one
Upon a quick search it seems like all of them are almost equally bad.
I mean seriously, the least offensive one is a swimsuit.
Foxy Fox 39
Banned
Mii is going to be the next newcomer announced.
It wouldn't be as interesting if he says "everybody look at me" in english for his taunt.
SaintMadeOfPlaster
Member
Yes please.
But really, I think that Nintendo uses Smash as an advertising outlet as much as they use it to provide people with a fantastic gaming experience, so I'd be shocked if Shulk didn't show up to help promote the new X game.
EDIT: Maybe not shocked, but I'd wonder why they wouldn't take the opportunity to introduce him to millions of people.
I think the less literal but more accurate translation is "everyone watch over me" but I don't remember for sure.
MisterHero
Super Member
I want Xenoblade presence to come out of left field with at least 3 characters. Shulk, Riki, and Dunban.
Shulk is obligatory, but I couldn't choose between Heropon and the one born into a world of strife.
I like to bet against the odds. What is life without choosing to fight?
Shulk is obligatory, but I couldn't choose between Heropon and the one born into a world of strife.
I like to bet against the odds. What is life without choosing to fight?
People said Snake felt very out of place. And Star fox has a bunch of talking animals, so there is that.
It very much is.
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he likes the bike. Like tails likes his plane. I believe he named it. Shadow, very good with mechanics and machinery.
Mario and olimar are the same kind of absurd, olimar far darker back story wise though. Samus started out differently than where she ended up, artistically wise, so she kind of gets a pass.
In smsh 64 and Melee I do not think the Era of Prime Fear had started. And yes Smash is an absurd game, however that does not mean every head of an IP nor the head dev of this game sees everything as absurd. And may wish to keep elements out of it that clash.
The sengoku Barasarra guys said no, and Mh guys said no. What makes you think that the people on metriod cant be like, nah we good.
Or you could put in a character nobody knows about and Rochette that into more attention.
Who did that in marvel 3...
A cross over game is a good way to make your character Iconic. A good example, Captain the F Falcon. Maybe they just felt like their monster RPG game did not fit well with this sort of thing.
You mean making it Wacky, of course they can make it work. He is this games Phoenix Wright. However there might be some people at nintendo who think that they cannot make ridley work, for very valid reasons. They feel as though his character works better as a big bad boss. And thinking about it, metriod is about solitude for the most part, Samus being alone in smash is very fitting.
Whiskeymatt
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I hope so, just for the meltdowns.
BassForever
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My top 5 "I think they genuinely have a chance at being playable" characters would be (in no particular order)
Bowser Jr
Shulk
Mii
Chrom
Palutenia
If the Mario franchise get's a 5th playable character Bowser Jr makes the most sense, since his introduction in Sunshine he's been a major antagonist in every platforming Mario title. Being able to pool from paintbrush/shadow mario moves and bowser's pool would make him pretty unique as well.
Xenoblade has become a fairly big hit worldwide for Nintendo, it's getting a sequel on the Wii U and was incredibly well received. Smash would be a great way to push Shulk and the Xenoblade franchise to a wider audience.
Mii just seems like an obvious choice, they're been playable in a lot of Nintendo games and thanks to the Wii ____ line (in particular the Party games) the Mii could have a huge pool of moves to pull from. Plus if this game is going to have any kind of story mode it would be pretty funny/easy to do a Captain N esque "you buy the new Smash, but you get sucked into the game :O" set up thing
Chrom is the MC of the most successful Fire Emblem in franchise history, regardless of if he replaces Ike or is just a 3rd FE rep (series is certainly bigger then Star Fox) I'd say he's got a great chance. Chrom could easily be a balance between Marth's speed and Ike's power a middle ground character.
When KI:U was announced to be a Sakurai game and Magnus was first shown off and comments of "I thought of Smash when designing this character" I instantly started screaming "Magnus for smash lock it up". Then uprising actually came out and while I still haven't finished it, from what I've seen they really made Palutenia into a real character both in terms of characterization and giving her fighting abilities. Sakurai even considered Kid Icarus franchise over Yoshi, Earthbound, Fire Emblem, Pikmin, Wario to tease in his first trailer. Regardless of if it's Palutenia or Magnus I'll be legit shocked if Kid Icarus doesn't get another playable rep in Smash Bros.
Bowser Jr
Shulk
Mii
Chrom
Palutenia
If the Mario franchise get's a 5th playable character Bowser Jr makes the most sense, since his introduction in Sunshine he's been a major antagonist in every platforming Mario title. Being able to pool from paintbrush/shadow mario moves and bowser's pool would make him pretty unique as well.
Xenoblade has become a fairly big hit worldwide for Nintendo, it's getting a sequel on the Wii U and was incredibly well received. Smash would be a great way to push Shulk and the Xenoblade franchise to a wider audience.
Mii just seems like an obvious choice, they're been playable in a lot of Nintendo games and thanks to the Wii ____ line (in particular the Party games) the Mii could have a huge pool of moves to pull from. Plus if this game is going to have any kind of story mode it would be pretty funny/easy to do a Captain N esque "you buy the new Smash, but you get sucked into the game :O" set up thing
Chrom is the MC of the most successful Fire Emblem in franchise history, regardless of if he replaces Ike or is just a 3rd FE rep (series is certainly bigger then Star Fox) I'd say he's got a great chance. Chrom could easily be a balance between Marth's speed and Ike's power a middle ground character.
When KI:U was announced to be a Sakurai game and Magnus was first shown off and comments of "I thought of Smash when designing this character" I instantly started screaming "Magnus for smash lock it up". Then uprising actually came out and while I still haven't finished it, from what I've seen they really made Palutenia into a real character both in terms of characterization and giving her fighting abilities. Sakurai even considered Kid Icarus franchise over Yoshi, Earthbound, Fire Emblem, Pikmin, Wario to tease in his first trailer. Regardless of if it's Palutenia or Magnus I'll be legit shocked if Kid Icarus doesn't get another playable rep in Smash Bros.
I just hope s/he's more creative than just "bat swing", "boxing glove", "bowling ball" etc etc. I'd like to see some crazier stuff incorporated from across all appearances.
SaintMadeOfPlaster
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I'd be surprised if Magnus ended up being a playable character, but I think he's an obvious pick for an assist trophy.
Then Little Mac and Pac-Man. As the prophecy foretold.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
I'll be honest, I really want the 7th member to be playable, idc if it spoils people.
My point isn't that they couldn't say no but that saying Ridley is too big is the no different than saying Olimar is too small. And I haven't seen a good reason as to why this isn't true. When talking about smash and it's absurdity it's entirely valid.
And regardless if they like those machines it is still a really dumb thing to use them In game. With a character like shadow and the tone of the rest of the series it's just plain silly but fine in the kart racers. It flies in the face of what you're saying without even needing to go into spin offs.
I personally want to see Ridley in because it'll be one hell of a design challenge. I want the team to wow me, and putting something we so-jokingly talk about with a fair level of confidence that he's probably not going to get in, would no doubt do that.
The awkwardness of his wings and tail would make him one giant hurtbox. I'm down to see them get around this problem without just shrinking him.
The awkwardness of his wings and tail would make him one giant hurtbox. I'm down to see them get around this problem without just shrinking him.
Been there done that (Ridley over Charizard). At that size they might as well call him Baby Ridley.
#toosmall
#toobig
Foxy Fox 39
Banned
Yeah, that'll look too small. The best solution I could think of is limiting his hurtbox in standing/walking/jumping to his head, torso and legs, and making his hurtbox/hitbox extend for the wings and tail only for specific movements and actions during the active frames.
Do you actually know something or are you just reiterating a rumor? :V
This is kinda the biggest hurdle for Ridley. His overall design isn't big just very, very lanky.
Ridley is from an entire different themed game series?
Alright then.
I feel like their philosophy is this .
You know when you are younger and your parents wont let you eat a bunch of chocolate or whatever at once, but you know when you get older you going to do it. So when you are out on your own you buy a shit ton of candy and junk and all you do is get sick of it and throw it away.
Some shit just ain't worth doing. I mean you can do it, there is good chance it may not be doing any one any good though. For better or for worse ridley has be deemed un-playable.
This is coming from a person who would be perfectly content if Riddles was in smash. I can understand why people might be to keen on it, including devs.
Eh I dunno I can think of some really cool game mechanics that involves a bike.But wasted opportunities in sonic games is a thread to itself ( those internet levels were dope)
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He has a hobby. I mean sonic snowboards because its extreme. Shadow riding on the angst mobile, doesn't really seem to out of the way to me. They just need to come up with a good mechanic for it.
I am confuse at this statement.
mii would make a fantastic newcomer if you can use your own personal one
Honestly pikmin isn't a happy, jovial game by any means. 3 is more atmospheric and lonely than any of the 2D Metroids. Going by art style alone I would agree but it's more similar than one might think. Besides plenty of games are different and Samus being in makes that moot.
And the last statement was referring to how you're arguing clashing and different themes in smash while defending a series who didn't know what it wanted to be for the longest time.
OrangeGrayBlue
Member
If I had to wager a guess for 5 most likely newcomers, I would go with
Mii
Dixie Kong (possibly paired with Diddy)
Ghirahim
Little Mac
Rosalina
I have no idea about that( epically the newest installment Pikmin), but yes Pikmin is lonely.
Not really. Thanos and galactus exist in the same universe. They are made for different purposes. Thanos can be a fighter, Galactus can be a boss. One being in a crossoever game does not eliminate the narrative already created for all those other characters in that universe. Even Shuma Gorath can throw hands, however Galactus, death, the watchers, ego the living planet, The living tribunal and many more aren't going to throw hands with the rest of the people because, like ridley..
- They are far too big for this even to work
- Or the narrative presented for the character only works for them being the way they are. So changing that would be changing the character.
- or like the watcher and tribunal, far above your petty squabbles.
That is funny. Still though, they seem rather content making ridley the way he is. High Heels or not.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
In all the mods I have seen Ridley looks too small. I am not saying he needs to be ginormous, but there is some room for growth there.
A Blossom Dance Final Smash would be amazing.
But I think 7 or Shulk has a better chance of getting in than Dunban.
Fusion is most certainly the most atmospheric and Pikmin 3 has better atmosphere but uses it to a different effect. Not that this makes Fusion's atmosphere bad. Trust me I have completed this game at least 15 times and I might even be low balling that.
But let me back up to this...
This is where I realized we have both reached an impass. We are arguing subjective and unknowable points with our own preconceived notions. Things like Devolper intent, the importance of themes and tones, the importance of those things in Smash choices, etc etc.
Right now we should just say "I disagree" and end it there.
this whole post is just made up stuff that doesn't even matter in smash bros
also cute and silly my ass, astronauts get stranded on an alien planet with creatures hundreds of times their size and if they don't get supplies they will starve to death or never get to go back home. that's some morbid shit lol
Hours Left
Member
10 minutes................?
Hours Left
Member
I think they should really freak people out and do 2 or 3 back to back major reveals.
Twilightzoney
Member
If we somehow had gotten Ridley it'll be the second form from Other : M just to spite us or something.
astrogamer
Member
Almost time to see what Samurai trolls us today