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Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS Thread 3: Ridley's Believe It or Not!

WiiRevolution1 said:
Something about that pic looks off. It doesn't look like Peach's hands direcly connect to Toad or something. I still think Toad is actually playable. We shall see I guess. (I know I sound crazy for thinking of this, but I just have this feeling...)

It just looks like Toad pulling the taunt ot something. Toad looks like he's a couple inches away from Peach's hands.

Goodnight yall.
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Peach is totally touching his butt; I'm guessing he's not playable. :p
 
Nope, Toad's playable, his Side-B has Peach pop out from his bottom to block back-attacks.
 
[QUOTE="D";90680067]I'm surprised you guys haven't noticed Luigi's apparent NEW jumping animation, which harkens back to SMB2/3D World[/QUOTE]

That was revealed on 3DS ages ago.
 
tonyh24613 said:
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Pic of the day. Super Mario 3D World is out today in Japan! To commemorate the occasion I had these four…people(?) come together in a group shot.
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RIP Toad

We won't be hearing your screechy ass voice in smash IV.
 
Still have hope for Toad in some form. Having him there would kinda make the Mario section of the roster feel a little more complete than it already is.
 
Ha, someone called it exactly!

Still hoping for a Zelda reveal tomorrow but who knows, we'll see. Still pretty satisfied after Marth so I won't sweat it either way.
 
Anth0ny said:
I always thought that if you take Meta Knight out of the game, Brawl is actually balanced quite well.

SS: Meta Knight
S: Ice Climbers
A+: Olimar, Diddy Kong
A-: Marth, Snake, Falco
B: Pikachu, Zero Suit Samus, Wario
C+: Lucario, King Dedede, Toon Link
C: Wolf, Fox, Mr. Game & Watch, Pit
C-: R.O.B., Peach
D: Kirby, Donkey Kong, Sonic, Ike, Sheilda, Sheik, Ness, Yoshi
E: Luigi, Pokémon Trainer, Lucas
F: Mario, Samus, Bowser, Captain Falcon, Link, Jigglypuff, Zelda, Ganondorf

The bolded become viable if you take MK out of there, or at least nerf the shit out of him. I'd be more than satisfied with 8+ tournament viable characters in the game. It's when ONE completely and utterly dominates that kills a game for me. Also, the fact that NO ONE managed to catch this dominance during the balancing phase of Brawl that begins to scare me. Sakurai reaffirming that Smash 4 will undergo the same process as Brawl is not good news to me.

Still hoping for the best...

Is balancing 1v1 on FD really that painstaking, though? I've said this before... if you balance for that style of gameplay, with everything stripped away but the characters and their movesets, adding items, final smashes, stage hazards etc. will not unbalance the game. The same cannot be said the other way around.

Even still, I don't understand how they managed to miss how overpowered MK was. Turn every item on, play on the most hazardous of stages, in a 4 player free for all. MK is still fucked.
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Not necessarily relevant to this but do many tournaments do 2v2? Not sure how that impacts balance but it seems like it wouldn't be on such a knifes edge. Either way i hope they put in some effort (perfect balance isn't necessary or possible). It's one of the reasons i wish they were willing to patch the game.
 
AdventureRacing said:
Not necessarily relevant to this but do many tournaments do 2v2? Not sure how that impacts balance but it seems like it wouldn't be on such a knifes edge. Either way i hope they put in some effort (perfect balance isn't necessary or possible). It's one of the reasons i wish they were willing to patch the game.
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double MK is literally banned from Apex
dat balance
 
Oh look no new character like I told you guys to expect. I would almost be tempted to take an avatar bet to say no new comer will be revealed out of the blue on the daily shots until most of the old camp are revealed (I suspect someone like Game and Watch may still be an unlockable)

Anth0ny said:
It would be awesome if Sakurai acknowledged the American launch for Zelda, but...
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It's the Western launch.

American launch for 3DWorld though you darn darnies. (Eight more days…)
 
Honestly I don't think there was ever a chance at a Newcomer reveal. Like people have said, that seems more like an E3/Nintendo Direct announcement.
 
I find it weird that some of you people expect a huge reveal so soon right after we just got one (Marth and Mario Galaxy stage). Settle down lol
 
TBH, if Rosalina were to be in the game, it's far more likely she'll be an unlockable. There's so many Mario characters in the starting roster as-is. So don't lose hope
 
qq more said:
TBH, if Rosalina were to be in the game, it's far more likely she'll be an unlockable. There's so many Mario characters in the starting roster as-is. So don't lose hope
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Well we don't know which characters are going to be on the starting roster, or if there'll even be unlockable characters this time around.
 
Red Arremer said:
Well we don't know which characters are going to be on the starting roster, or if there'll even be unlockable characters this time around.
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Man, I'd be very disappointed if there's no unlockables... Part of the fun in Smash is unlocking characters. I love Single Player content!*

(*except for Brawl's)
 
qq more said:
Man, I'd be very disappointed if there's no unlockables... Part of the fun in Smash is unlocking characters. I love Single Player content!
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40+ starting characters, everyone thinks there are no unlockables
one week after release, someone posts a video unlocking a secret character

yeah that's not happening
 
qq more said:
Man, I'd be very disappointed if there's no unlockables... Part of the fun in Smash is unlocking characters. I love Single Player content!
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I like Single Player content too, but honestly, unlocking the character is such a chore. There's also always the friend who invites people and doesn't have all the characters unlocked, so some people's favorites are not available, or somebody has to bring along a memory card or w/e.

Costumes, music, trophies, even stages are fine, but half the roster locked away is just boring.

Also, as much of a snorefest the Subspace Emissary was, at least you didn't have to complete 100 games to unlock a character, you play through the mode once, unlock characters on the way, and then there's the bonus characters you can unlock by playing through 2 or 3 stages again. And there also, of course, were the other unlockable methods for a few characters.
And the characters on the 64 version also were unlocked by not grinding fights.

I guess I just really really didn't like how unlockable characters were handled in Melee.
 
Red Arremer said:
I like Single Player content too, but honestly, unlocking the character is such a chore. There's also always the friend who invites people and doesn't have all the characters unlocked, so some people's favorites are not available, or somebody has to bring along a memory card or w/e.

Costumes, music, trophies, even stages are fine, but half the roster locked away is just boring.

Also, as much of a snorefest the Subspace Emissary was, at least you didn't have to complete 100 games to unlock a character, you play through the mode once, unlock characters on the way, and then there's the bonus characters you can unlock by playing through 2 or 3 stages again. And there also, of course, were the other unlockable methods for a few characters.
And the characters on the 64 version also were unlocked by not grinding fights.

I guess I just really really didn't like how unlockable characters were handled in Melee.
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What do you mean by that? Honest question.

In Melee, lot's of the characters were unlocked like normal; clear classic mode under so and so conditions, clear adventure under so and so conditions, beat 100-Man Melee, etc. Only Mewtwo required an extra step, play X hours with X people, or leave the game on over night with 2+ player characters and win the match. Then Mr. Game&Watch after beating target test with everyone else. (I think)

Both Melee and Brawl have the grinding of matches if you didn't know how to unlock them, but other than that they both had the classic unlocking system + subspace emissary for Brawl.
 
MaverickHunterAsh said:
I hope so!

Nah, she's different enough from Peach that she could be her own character IMO. She's got her magic wand, Lumas,
spinning move in Super Mario 3D World
, it seems like she can more or less fly or hover, etc. - Peach has none of that, making Rosalina more than an alt costume or palette swap of her.
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Wow. Thanks for that spoiler warning(!) How was I meant to know it wasn't about Galaxy?
 
ALM5252 said:
What do you mean by that? Honest question.

In Melee, lot's of the characters were unlocked like normal; clear classic mode under so and so conditions, clear adventure under so and so conditions, beat 100-Man Melee, etc. Only Mewtwo required an extra step, play X hours with X people, or leave the game on over night with 2+ player characters and win the match. Then Mr. Game&Watch after beating target test with everyone else. (I think)

Both Melee and Brawl have the grinding of matches if you didn't know how to unlock them, but other than that they both had the classic unlocking system + subspace emissary for Brawl.
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Really? I could've sworn there was more grinding required (I do remember Mewtwo and grinding the multi-man melees tho). Shows how long it's been since I unlocked shit in Melee, been over 10 years.
 
Red Arremer said:
This is so obviously leading up to a Rosalina reveal it hurts.



Of course not, the newest Mario game isn't out yet. Tomorrow it is, tho (at least in Japan and NA).
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It is out today, though, in Japan, and Sakurai's been using Japanese release dates when revealing characters, so a Rosalina reveal is likely not happening (at least right now). But sure, there's still tomorrow... I suppose you never know!

BGBW said:
Wow. Thanks for that spoiler warning(!) How was I meant to know it wasn't about Galaxy?
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Uh, because Galaxy has been out for years and no one should be worried about spoiling that for you by this point? That would be like me putting Aerith's death behind a spoiler tag in 2013. Come on now. You didn't have to look at what was pretty obviously not a spoiler for Galaxy. Plus, if I had warned what game it was a spoiler for and not spoiler-tagged THAT, you'd be complaining even louder (and more justifiably) about that.
 
MaverickHunterAsh said:
You didn't have to look at what was pretty obviously not a spoiler for Galaxy.

But I'll add a warning for others like you just in case, I guess.
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It really wasn't. And the others make not so subtle remarks like

Kouriozan said:
Hmm... Still missing someone there :p
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Are really not funny. People respected those who wanted to enjoy Fire Enblem spoiler free so I have no idea why people find it so hard with 3D World, a game that isn't even out yet in the west.

Seriously just don't talk about it in this thread full stop.
 
People spoiling games is my least favorite part of the Smash Hype. I'll never forget when people spoiled Mother 3 during Brawl hype :(
 
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