Lowlander2
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Haha, true enough.
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RPS ambushes Blizzard director for objectification of women in Heroes of the Storm
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Haha, true enough.
Are you, a woman, representative of all women then?
Yeah, they hate this shit. /s
And he's not an isolated case. For every girly man that women swoon over I can find a dude that looks like this that they swoon over as well. Look at any sexiest man list and half of them have perfect muscle clad bodies.
Anything that is not a batman joke is trash
Oh please. Christian Bale? He is a woman's fucking dream. While Batman was designed to appeal to males, that doesn't mean that women don't wet themselves over him. The two aren't mutually exclusive understand?
http://www.listal.com/list/beautiful-specimens
No are you? Is anyone in this thread? I just know that the women I work with (all ages and races) and the women in my family all find Christian Bale attractive.
For people understanding why this is "journalist" is a joke
When asking a tough question, youndont keep repeating the question until you get the answer you want, clearly the guy didnt want to go super into it, and you should be able to read the person your interviewing whether or not you can get somewhere with the answer.
This isnt asking "tough questions" this is hoping to start an argument, which obviously in an environment where the guy is just trying to advertise his game.
When a baseball team signs a new player, the sports journalists dont go and ask the owner why the ball girls are so sexily dressed, he in fact should wait for an oppurtunity to ask these questions because everyone, press and people from the team, are just there to talk about their signing. If you had contacted someone outside and asked just to do a simple interview, thats when youbask these questions, not in a fucking pr event to advertise the game.
When asking a tough question, youndont keep repeating the question until you get the answer you want, clearly the guy didnt want to go super into it, and you should be able to read the person your interviewing whether or not you can get somewhere with the answer.
This isnt asking "tough questions" this is hoping to start an argument, which obviously in an environment where the guy is just trying to advertise his game.
When a baseball team signs a new player, the sports journalists dont go and ask the owner why the ball girls are so sexily dressed, he in fact should wait for an oppurtunity to ask these questions because everyone, press and people from the team, are just there to talk about their signing. If you had contacted someone outside and asked just to do a simple interview, thats when youbask these questions, not in a fucking pr event to advertise the game.
What, like Twighlight?
I don't know what CW is but I know that for some reason chicks dig Loki a lot more than Thor.
...if you use the same statistics that say 50% of online gamers are women. ie, 35 is not necessarily the average age of core gamers -- 35 is the average age when you consider games like bejeweled and farmville.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
I used to like Shortpacked! before the New52 meltdown.
Well said. Doing this at Blizzcon was bush league.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
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Tell that to my wife who's list is topped by:
Not all women want feminized men as their fantasy
Not all women want feminized men as their fantasy
Oh believe me. My wife is constantly reminding me how hot that fucker is.
Edit: Oh and my mom, sister and coworkers.
Professor Lich
Member
I figured it out! All male characters just need to look like Macklemore and everything will be ok.
I knew there was a reason people kept bbringing him up!
I knew there was a reason people kept bbringing him up!
So hard hitting journalists are a joke? If this were about resolution or some bullshit more gamers care about would it be getting the same reaction?
So, the point of journalism is to create "pr event to advertise the game"
What a fucking joke
That's because most women aren't like the one in that comic that these people pretend is the average woman. Like I mentioned before, watch the CW any weeknight and you'll see what young women like, and it's not scrawny ass effeminate men.
Magic Mike didn't make 170 million dollars for nothing:
No they don't. I don't know who you are hanging around, but I guarantee you a poll would be overwhelming in favor of Thor, he's on just about every sexiest man list and Loki is nowhere to be found. It's almost like you are making shit up to prove your point. Oh, and the CW is a teenage/20's station which disproves your idea of what women that age think is sexy.
Get over the red orc. Women want to fuck Joe Manganiello, Brad Pitt and Christian Bale. All of them. Whoever you are fucking wants to fuck them too.
No and I never implied that. But surely you understand the need for PR events? Time and a place for everything?
Whoosh
He's hung up on the red orc because without it he doesn't have a leg to stand on.
Lowlander2
Banned
What's wrong with making it apparent to everyone that the subject has no actual answer for the questions, or doesn't actually want to address a topic?
What did we learn about googling random polls?
Edit: Jarate puts it better than I can.
I dont think you guys understand any part of Journalism or what goes into it
Those really good "hard hitting" journalists know when to fucking ask questions.
it's a PR event, not an interview
When you have radio hosts, and they have someone on who's famous, you dont see them asking "HERP A DERP IN THIS MOVIE YOU DRESSED LIKE A SLUT AND THAT'S BAD" because generally on those places you're just helping the interviewee advertise something.
Now how many times do you see when someone is NOT ADVERTISING SOMETHING and just doing a normal interview. In this scenario you can ask these questions. In sports journalism, you ask the people in the locker roo. After the game, you ask in the post game press conference, you dont ask the same questions when the team ismunveilig a new jersey.
The reason you want to avoid these questions is becuase now Blizzard will probably never have this kind of Event with RPS, because they know what kind of shit they'll have to deal with when they want to have an interview to advertise something. So that means the site gets less views and less money. This hurts these "games journalists" in the long run.
If any of these games "journalist" were journalists we wouldnt have these issues. These guys dont know the game at all, and you can tell just how unprofessional they are.
jakonovski
Member
Ha, this thread has proceeded to decrying "effeminate men" now? The ghost of Freud must be floating somewhere nearby, laughing his ass off.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
I quoted what you claimed was 'the point'
Yeah.. let Blizzard PR do PR. Let RPS journalists be journalists. Why do you want journalists to be extensions of corporate PR? What's the point of doing an interview if all we get are PR talking points? Besides money.
Sorry but you're off base. We can just agree to disagree if that makes you feel better.
I don't know how to make it more clear for you man. Just read Jarate's posts. If you don't agree then it is what it is.
Lowlander2
Banned
If you're good enough at judging where a line of communications ends so you can move on to the next one, you can do it without the whole interview being cancelled. What amazes me is that RPS previously did just this, with the Cyberpunk 2077 or whatever interview. They asked two questions on the topic, got two answers, it was easy to discern what their answer was and they moved on. In this one, they pushed their luck and it blew up in their face. After the president comment, would it not have been obvious to everyone reading that there was nowhere left to go on the topic?
Questions are hard. I get that. I nearly flunked a number of my news gathering units. But a core tenet of journalism is to not get impulsive. Our job is information retrieval and layout. We're not paladins of justice, no matter what my very first lecture said to the incongruity of everything else I learned.
hahahahaha
What is the downside of "journalists" not doing these PR events for publishers?
Because youre asking useless questions. You might be able to pull off this question, but he asked it like 4 times in a row, which is just stupid. Like I said earlier, he's not looking for an answer, he's looking for an argument
Next, you dont understand any journalism at all. PR Events exist, and you can ask questions outside of PR events if you're a good journalist and find shit.
Devolution
Member
All I know is.
lol
lol
We are talking about an interview with gems like this:
'RPS: LoL and DOTA have taken eSports by storm, but how is your Storm going to take eSports by DOTA? No, that really doesnt work. Please act as though I said nothing, but randomly answer a question about similar topics stated much more eloquently. '
With them springing the question right after PR tells them 'time is running low', thus not much time to devote on the subject (not like there was much room with the way it was phrased either way).
So yeah, not sure on what planet this is considered a job well done as far as journalism goes
Yes, this is a good explanation of why journalism is dead.
He doesn't get it and or doesn't want to. He's a man on an island at this point.
You wouldn't understand because you're an idealistic outsider who doesn't get what real life and business are like.
jakonovski
Member
Oh my god, they made a game PR person uncomfortable! What a journalistic failure!
You're reaching here, really badly. If I were to put my amateur psychologist hat on, I'd say you were uncomfortable with the sexist backlash in this thread, but still wanted to defend Blizzard by criticizing RPS.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
When you go to the barber, just tell 'em: "give me the Roger Klotz"
This is the best thing I've ever seen.
No money from clicks, while every other place is able to cover this event, you just sit there and stew. Not only that, you piss of Blozzard where they might never do another interview with you again, even if it is just cookie cutter questions.
The journalist has no right no ask interview people, they do so becuase its a mutual understanding that it will help both companies. If you start to ruin it for another company, they have the right to deny you interviews so that destroys any type of future relations
They're in it together, this is how it works
No, you have it backward.
Questions that result in PR talking points are useless. You can get the same PR talking points from any news outlet or even the company's own social media.
Questions that get result in exclusive new information or in this case honest insight into the minds of the creators are the only questions worth asking.
edit: of course I'm an idealist. Celebrating/supporting useless "journalism" only makes it worse. No wonder we get embarrassing dorito-journalism -- you guys actually celebrate it!
Lowlander2
Banned
I think the last Blizzard game I played outside of a preowned copy of Diablo 1 was Starcraft 64, and that was on holiday in Broome ten years ago.
And my stance on sexism in gaming culture is well documented on GAF. I am, after all, the guy who made that topic on Errant Signal's video two months ago. It's a very important fight. I just can't see how everything we do to fight it is supposedly effective. We're a long way from the days of #OneReasonWhy.
Oh, now it's CORE gamers? I see. Movin' them goalposts...gotcha.
Uncle Rupee
Banned
I like how dismissive the Blizzard guy was. I mean, at least defend your shit and own up to it. It is what it is.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Yes, if you're a good journalist you can still ask this question, he got an answer out of them with regards to them getting feedback, YOU STOP THERE BECUASE YOU CAN TELL THE PERSON DOESNT WANT TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS, HENCE WHY THE INTERVIEW STOPPED.
And even then, you ask these questions at a bettermtime then a pr event becuase it's just you advertising the game. As strange as this sounds, you have to know your limits, and have to know when to ask these questions.
You have no clue how any of this shit works, you can tell by just how blatantly ignorant you are. Now im not some golden messiah of jurnalism, but im sure that any journalism students here would most likely agree with me, or someone who worked in the journalism field.
Hard hitting questions are fine, but you need to know your limits
I H8 Memes
Member
Please stop bringing up that useless "47% of gamers are women" bs. Even if it were true it would be because they are heavily counting mobile games/ social games. Nothing wrong with that but it has absolutely nothing to do with the demographics of the games that people like to rage on for being designed towards men. Those games are very heavily weighted towards male demographics.
If 47% of serious gamers were women then believe me you'd see more than a few games designed specifically toward that demographic. Capitalism leaves no dollar on the floor that can be picked up.
If 47% of serious gamers were women then believe me you'd see more than a few games designed specifically toward that demographic. Capitalism leaves no dollar on the floor that can be picked up.
jakonovski
Member
Jarate, please stop. You're defending the sanctity of PR events, possibly the most useless thing in the world. Just consider that for a while.
PR events.
Possibly the most useless thing in the world.
PR events.
Possibly the most useless thing in the world.