You probably already will play it at least twice. 2nd playthrough and beyond for different endings and getting all S.Links
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You probably already will play it at least twice. 2nd playthrough and beyond for different endings and getting all S.Links
And potentially bog the general quality of the game down with it.
To me, it's one or the other, and that's most likely what they're going to do since they state themselves that their resources are very limited (if we're to take that interview translation as fact) and the P3P level of a different perspective just wouldn't happen for a variety of obvious reasons.
Poetic.Injustice
Member
They'd have to redraw any animated scenes for one.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I still think they should just have a feMC-ONLY option.
They already catered to the otaku with P3, P4, DS1, AND DS2. Give the fujyoshi something to get hot and bothered about this time around.
They already catered to the otaku with P3, P4, DS1, AND DS2. Give the fujyoshi something to get hot and bothered about this time around.
Dr. Buni
Member
Or just not do animated cutscenes? It is a PS3 game, they can easily use the engine for cutscenes, if they want to. Meh, you guys should be happy, we who want a FeMC are the ones who will be disappointed in the end anyway.
Edit: Having a FeMC along the male MC would bog the quality of the game? Jesus, what the hell am I reading.
- Different anime scenes
- Different dialogue + dialogue options
- Different voice acting
- Different models + animations
- Different scenes altogether
- etc.
It's not feasible to do both genders. It was facilitated in P3P for a multitude of reasons. You should hope for the protagonist being female if that's what you want for some reason, not for the game to give the player a choice.
Deckard Cain
Banned
Meh, not interested anymore. High school, especially Japanese high school is a very boring environment for a story these days. The high school drama has been done to death in Japan. I really do not feel like potentially revisiting what will most likely be the same anime high school tropes that have been around for over a two decades. Just not my cup of tea. Sorry.
For what it was, I think they did put a ton of effort into making FeMC work.
She wasn't just a gender swap; she was own character, almost completely dissimilar from the Male MC. She had her social links and lines were adjusted to accommodate her (beyond just her's and she's; Junpei's sexist outburst for example) even most of her dialogue response were completely different.
I like to believe that kind of thing was possible because P3 already existed. They could refer to the original version when coming up with ideas for her. It seems like it would be take quite some time to essentially come up with 2 narratives and 2 sets of social links.
I'm 99.999% sure that if they do add a new female protagonist, it'll be on subsequent versions of P5.
EDIT: What flux said
Yes. Do you actually have any counter-argument to what I said? A female main character only or a male character only would ensure the best game P5 could be upon its first release, no question.
You're acting like we're planning out how Atlus uses it's resources. If Atlus actually made the decision to go two gender, they obviously know what that entails and know they can handle it. If not, we'll all live with it.
Yeah, they'd have to split their resources from the get go to accommodate both genders. I'd imagine there would be some overlap in that case.
Of course, it'd be reaaaaaaaaaaally cool if the default MC was female but...
Shouta
Member
Apparently, you aren't reading.
Extra effort put into FeMC means they'd need to split time developing two different versions of events (assuming it wasn't just a character swap) which means there's less time put into polishing the game if it were just a single character. That would bog the quality of the game down is the argument. Which is a fair one depending on how long the game has been in development and where it is currently.
Dr. Buni
Member
- Scrap anime cut scenes and use the engine in the cut scenes
- How exactly is this too much effort?
- Main characters have very few voice clips, voicing two different mcs wouldn't be a problem at all
- They will create different models and animations for dozens of characters, a FeMC would just be one more
- Again, how exactly is this too much effort?
I won't hope for a FeMC-only, because that wouldn't solve anything. I don't want people who prefers to play as male character to be ignored. I can't bring myself to be that unsympathetic. You're failing to convince me giving us two different MCs is a bad idea.
Yes, read my arguments above. Do you have any actual arguments against a FeMC? I am waiting for them.
R_thanatos
Member
You're doing it for fun , but i think you're right on the money.
Yes, if that was their plan from the get-go. And if that was their plan from the get-go, the scope of the game would be reduced compared to what it could be with a protag of a single possible gender.
...Are you seriously dismissing all of those as not requiring a lot of effort from the part of the developers? Hehe... HAHA.
Alright, dude. Whatever.
When did I ever say I had something against a FeMC? I'm arguing against including an option for BOTH genders.
IQ boosting micro transactions so you don't need to go through two playthroughs to have full social stats at the beginning? I can honestly see that happening, and tbh I wouldn't be the least bit upset since it's a single player game.
Edit:
I'm of the opinion that Atlus would make a game of at least the scope of 4 regardless, which has plenty of content.
Atlus doesn't have unlimited resources. Everything that goes into a game takes time and money, both of which are finite.
InsaneElite
Member
As a male gamer, i'm a little disappointed too.
But I also believe in the possibility of Atlus addressing this in the future, a.l.a P3P. They set a clear precedence for making remakes.
Yeah. I think there was some concept art for her too.
Yeah, doesn't that mean that there is still hope for a FeMC choice in P5?
The Cartographer
Member
Can't wait to play this.
I'm confident if they don't add it originally they'll add it in the remake again because they know they can get a decent amount more money for the addition.
Edit: Then again, this is the first time they're releasing a persona on a dlc capable console....
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
FeMC is not canon and you guys know this. It was a cool feature for P3P to make us Persona fans buy it again. Atlus knows most the people that buy Persona games are probably male
Shouta
Member
Let's put it this way. Adding a FeMC in might be a small hit to resources when programming it but it at least doubles the amount of QA time required.
FeMC was meant to be in Persona 3 from the start...
You'd figure, but I actually usually hear from people's anecdotes that it's more popular with girls in Japan.
Well Atlus probably did not hear those anecdotes or enough of them.
I mean we will see. I want a male MC and a female MC would not bother me at all so...we will see what they think they should pour their resources into.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
InsaneElite
Member
Catherine as FeMC confirmed.
Again, the best case scenario is that both the MaleMC and FeMC aren't mutually exclusive. I would think of it like a Pokemon game, the game gives you a choice between the MaleMC and the FeMC, but the one you don't choose becomes your first party member. It's a very handy way of sidestepping issues like having to reanimate certain scenes.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
That would create two different universes/ story lines. Thats probably the main reason why there won't be an alternative.
Sakura
Member
Happy it's a high school setting. I hope it isn't too 'dark' or whatever though. The fun sort of goofy events are some of my favourite parts of Persona 3 and 4. As for the option of a female protag, I'm kind of hoping it's just a male protag. I'd rather they use the extra time and resources required for a second protagonist on fleshing out social links and stuff.
This is exactly what I don't want. You are literally asking to be exploited by Atlus. It was great with P3P because it was resurrecting something that was not possible before, but now with P5 it would simply be withholding something in order to exploit the fanbase for the eventual P5+ which is crazy.
If they were to do a Vita version or a PS4 version add all new content like FES to the mix, don't add in a feature that should have been there, and in all likely hood was planned, from the start. That is just cheap and sleazy.
Most games in the Megaten franchise have more than two different universes depending on the route you choose to follow...
bishopcruz
Member
Honestly, I just am hoping for the tone of the P2 games. IS+EP have the best story in the entire series, by a country mile. Not that I dislike P3 or P4, I love them, but P4 especially has some amazing characters, but a story that really stays static for far too long. It has a great opening and closing, story wise, and great characters. But since their personal development is completely tied to their S. Link and intro, they have a tendency to disappear from the story as players once their intros are done. P3 avoided this, and P3P did an even better job in having the S. Links influence the main plot, especially as the FeMC, I hope we see more of this in P5.
I really want the party to have a life outside of the MC. As much as I loved being the pimp-daddy of Inaba in P4, I do very much want to see a bit more nuance in character relationships in P5. I want more along the lines of FeMC /Junpei or Maya/Lisa/Tatsuya this time around.
I like the S. Link idea, and I think it has some great stuff. P4's tying it in to pretty much all character development for your party was it's biggest flaw.
I know you are talking about FeMC additions, but I have seen this brought up for multiplat and other things with this game.
It's true that Atlus is small, though Falcom is also pretty damn small and they can do a massive multiplat RPG without sacrifices (Sen) from what I have heard. Just a shame this isn't PS3/Vita or PS3/PS4.
But I have loved all Persona games thus far, nitpicks aside (more than nitpicks for P1, but you get the idea) so the hypre train is still going for me.
People talking about cross buying for this game so you can grind on the go and social link and progress with the story at home blew my mind. This would be so perfect.
Kill some shadows during launch break so when I get home it's all about the story, instead of wasting one precious hour of free time grinding.
Kill some shadows during launch break so when I get home it's all about the story, instead of wasting one precious hour of free time grinding.