Sseklebeast
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I wonder how a modern day Persona would be if they were at the helm.
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I wonder how a modern day Persona would be if they were at the helm.
High school again...
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To be fair, this interview is years old, and was done right after the only mainline game (out of four, counting SMT If...) that wasn't set in a high school
Admiral Woofington
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I don't expect much in groundbreaking decisions from developers of long running franchises. Specifically when it comes to long time running franchises. DMC was one of the few I was surprised they went with that route, but that was a publisher deciding to let a western developer take control.
Comfort-zone is what I perceive as a proper word for developers. Western developers have that too with long running franchises. Biggest change in recent years was leaving WWII for COD.
So no I wasn't expecting it to NOT be in high school. It would have been nice if they had gone for college as a "ooh that's different" bit. But nothing more really.
Comfort-zone is what I perceive as a proper word for developers. Western developers have that too with long running franchises. Biggest change in recent years was leaving WWII for COD.
So no I wasn't expecting it to NOT be in high school. It would have been nice if they had gone for college as a "ooh that's different" bit. But nothing more really.
Nope, just means we're getting the same thing again....unless they do some sort of Persona 3 reboot....we'll see
Also Empire Strikes Back was pretty dark and the best in the series
Sseklebeast
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We don't even know who these teens are let alone if they save the world. I think you're bailing out way too fast in this case.
I like this because of how the third year NPCs acted in P3 and P4 as the end of the year came around. If you even talked to them they would mention how lucky you are and to cherish your moments now, or how they couldn't talk because they were too stressed or busy from studying and cram school. Something they have shown us already so far.
Admiral Woofington
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Man this is why I like the US college system. Keep your grades up, send in applications, write some essays and check later on if they accepted you. No taking exams (besides stuff you had to take in high school like SAT's).
Don't hate them from not breaking the mold. If that's what sales, let it be. For something as superficial as it not being older characters that's a really dumb reason to not play what will most likely be a great game
Teens save the world? That's like 95% of anime and let's be honest, P3 and 4 are heavily anime-inspired.
Don't hate them from not breaking the mold. If that's what sales, let it be. For something as superficial as it not being older characters that's a really dumb reason to not play what will most likely be a great game
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But the saving the world twists don't even come up until like the last hours of the game tho... Hell, you can barely even get the ending that deals with that in P4 unless you go out of your way to get the true ending. If you ended up with the bad ending it's still an enjoyable game about murder mysteries.
Just sick of the teenage designs, teenage themes, teenagers who live in a world where every adult is useless, high school, etc.
I know Persona normally handles these subjects better than other JRPGs, but I'm just so tired of this cliche. God forbid we get a JRPG that doesn't have at least one goddamn teen...
Dr. Buni
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I think they will and that is fine to me. I just wish they get ride of anime cutscene to use engine-based cutscene instead.
That is perfectly fine to me.
He's totally doing it wrong. I'd be playing leapfrog with Chie after she galactic punted those other bitches out of the room.
This so much. I'm starting to hate it when it's done in Tales games as well.
No thank you.
But how else are they going to create premature hype for the eventual Persona 5 anime?
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Dr. Buni
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Yeah. Anime cutscene also gives Atlus an excuse to no add a FeMC to the game, since they would have to create animate different cutscene for each MC. With engine-based cutscenes, they would just need to replace the character models.
Well, not having anime cutscenes would actually give people more reasons to watch a Persona 5 anime, don't you think?
Megidolaon
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Am I the only adult who doesn't at all feel disappointed with the teenage cast or find them too immature?
I'm 24 and honestly I don't feel like I'm that much more "wizened" or "mature" that I can't relate to the high school characters. Maybe I'm just juvenile, though.
I'm 24 and honestly I don't feel like I'm that much more "wizened" or "mature" that I can't relate to the high school characters. Maybe I'm just juvenile, though.
I understand why you'd want that, but I hope you don't get it.
Anime cutscenes are THE BEST.
Not to mention there aren't all that many anime cutscenes in P4 and P3 anyway, they seem really forced and only there to be able to do special effects without having to program it into the engine.
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Am I the only adult who doesn't at all feel disappointed with the teenage cast or find them too immature?
I'm 24 and honestly I don't feel like I'm that much more "wizened" or "mature" that I can't relate to the high school characters. Maybe I'm just juvenile, though.
No you're not. I've got a healthy suspension of disbelief so I don't get stuck on details like that, and it fits the persona playstyle.
No worries, I kinda do as well.
That Adachi Scene in Golden for the bad ending where he burns the letter is quite a cool conclusion IMO.
EDIT: Wait, you're not the same person. Sorry.
Dr. Buni
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Nah, I am 23 years old and I am perfectly fine with the teenage cast. They are way more mature than certain adults you see in certain other games out there.Am I the only adult who doesn't at all feel disappointed with the teenage cast or find them too immature?
I'm 24 and honestly I don't feel like I'm that much more "wizened" or "mature" that I can't relate to the high school characters. Maybe I'm just juvenile, though.
They were goddamn awful in both P3 and P4. Unless Atlus decide to hire Ufotable or some other decent studio to animate the new ones, they can gtfo.
Fixed.
Fortunately, they won't be removed.
Well, according to this thread, your actually in the majority of people.Am I the only adult who doesn't at all feel disappointed with the teenage cast or find them too immature?
I'm 24 and honestly I don't feel like I'm that much more "wizened" or "mature" that I can't relate to the high school characters. Maybe I'm just juvenile, though.
That makes a lot of sense, but I'd rather just get FeMC only and then the Male MC for P5Ruby on the Vita.
Dr. Buni
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I wouldn't mind that, but most people would. Actually, I've seen a thread about that on gamefaqs today, a lot of people saying they wouldn't buy a Persona game with only a female MC. Atlus certainly would never do that, so the best we (or at least, I) can hope for is Persona 5 having both male and female MC and I would totally trade badly animated cutscenes for that option.
I'd rather have a choice of both right away. How they handled the genders in P3P was genius. Completely different perspective and plot points, whereas most story games with this choice just change a few pronouns and a couple lines.
That's really dumb. I love my waifus as much as everyone else, but I can love my husbandos too
I didn't play P3P, so that may be the reason I'm not that excited for the idea, but I do read lots of good things about it.
I played P3P and I'm opposed to the idea of being able to select a gender. Much prefer them stick with one and not have to worry about spending resources accommodating both genders in story scenes or gender ambiguous dialogue.
Sseklebeast
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I can't really argue with you on that point because I always wanted an older cast for a Persona game. EP is one of my favorite games in the series and wish they'd touch up on adults again.
However, in this case we just have to wait and see how this new cast is and how they handle the situations they find themselves in. I know, cop out and lame response but unfortunately I can't really say much about Persona 5 since hardly anything is known about it. Maybe we'll have a mix of teens and adults in the playable cast this time around? Someone here threw in the idea of teachers being involved in someway , I think that would be cool.
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Edit: I should add that this goes if it's to "bright" as well.
The problem with that is that from a game design standpoint, it's more tempting to do what you said on the latter rather than the former if it's decided to have both gender protagonists right from the start. That and with the lack of development resources/time (compared to having more development resources for a remake later), it gets pretty convenient to just merge plot points into stuff common for both genders. (E.g. scenes where you would hang out with the "dudes" would probably have less of an incentive to be done rather than a common scene for both genders)
We could end up with something as good as the P3P female route, but leaving the option for a remake makes more sense from a business standpoint (A pretty good reason to re-buy the same game), and it's kind of a safeguard from a game design standpoint as well. They can go all out with anything male/female specific in the main game, just as long as they're willing to do a different perspective later for a remake.
XANDER CAGE
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I'm not sure I understand all the bellyaching over younger characters in a series that's 1. about coming to grips with your true self and 2. also about magic dick monsters that appear to fight evil chairs and tables.
Etrian Oddity
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I'll reserve my opinion for the final product (because I love the studio), but this was definitely my first reaction.High school again...
Am I the only adult who doesn't at all feel disappointed with the teenage cast or find them too immature?
I'm 24 and honestly I don't feel like I'm that much more "wizened" or "mature" that I can't relate to the high school characters. Maybe I'm just juvenile, though.
I feel the same way. In my experience the people I know who act like they are mature tend to be the most immature.
I get that, just saying it would exceed my expectations if they manage to nail that on the first version. P3P made my replay of P3 a lot more interesting than it would have been with the same MC.
I thank GOD every day that 3 and 4 ushered in a new era and made Persona and Atlus relevant. Thank goodness 1 and 2 don't exist and 3 and 4 continue to be an inspiration to other developers and Atlus's new games alike.
God only knows if those first two shitty games weren't flops this series would still be trash. But luckily we don't have to worry about that.
Persona 5 will also make innovations never seen in JRPGS ever before. I'm ready
The High School/Social Link innovations that trample the demon trash in the first 2 games made the world see the lighT of Persona games. I don't give 3 enough crediT.
God only knows if those first two shitty games weren't flops this series would still be trash. But luckily we don't have to worry about that.
Persona 5 will also make innovations never seen in JRPGS ever before. I'm ready
The High School/Social Link innovations that trample the demon trash in the first 2 games made the world see the lighT of Persona games. I don't give 3 enough crediT.
Think he is busy playing Extetra atm.
Dr. Buni
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Right? I played P3FES and P4 and date waifus, not sure why people can date husbandos for once instead.
Yep, the ideal scenario is being able to choose, instead of having only one gender available.
Thanks for the support!
So long as that innovation doesn't get rid of the turn based combat, I'm game.
Poetic.Injustice
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I thought it was pointed out that P1 was the most initially successful game in the series in terms of sales.
we.are.the.armada
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I hope it's dark and gritty and just as dark as possible with misunderstood dark characters that are very badass and dark or perhaps "torn" or "broken", if you get what I'm saying. The series needs to be less bubblegum and more gritty in the darkest way possible for adults to enjoy instead of the kiddy stuff from before. Wouldn't it be cool if the cast were vampires though
I'm sure it will be great as always with high school kids, but I can't say I didn't want to see some college age kids dealing with the immediate onset of adulthood and the struggles of being independent and self sufficient. Finding your place in the world and what not. All that can be done with high school kids, to a degree, but the immediacy of it for college kids makes it a much stronger theme. Especially for a bunch of delinquent, burnt out, underachieving, , low self esteem, unconfident college kids.
You know, it's troll posts like this that make me understand just how ridiculously sensitive people are to people saying they want a little more dark in the series. Some people may be saying dark=mature, not everyone is. Edgy most definitely does not equal mature. I just prefer games with some severe negative consequence that make you question the main cast's plot armor. Persona 4 had enough negative consequence to be interesting, but overall it is pretty damn obvious early on
no one significant to the plot would die.
just gonna get a "they lived happily ever after" ending