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[Aquamarine]

I see what you did there

Honestly I don't even know why Square Enix bothered releasing the 360 version in Japan. The Final Fantasy XIII saga on Xbox 360 has always sold poorly in its home territory.

Should we consider Disney Infinity the true bomba of the week?

I agree. I thought for sure that Disney Infinity could AT LEAST pass 3K sales on 3DS.

 

[AniHawk]

forgot this happened this week. really terrible for 3d world. i mean that's a huge drop. i don't have much faith in things picking up. maybe wii fit u will be a small bump.

vita tv bombed like crazy. i didn't expect that.

 

[cafemomo]

The Final Fantasy XIII saga on Xbox 360 has always sold poorly in its home territory..

Isn't that the case everywhere?

I expect FFXV to do poorly on the xbox 1

 

[sörine]

Isn't that the case everywhere?

I expect FFXV to do poorly on the xbox 1

I thought XIII 360 did okay in the usual markets (US, UK, etc)? It undersold PS3 everywhere still but the numbers weren't bad like Japan?

 

[theprodigy]

Isn't that the case everywhere?

I expect FFXV to do poorly on the xbox 1

don't really have numbers, but at least on opening month in NPD the 360 had >35% of total sales so it's not that bad

 

[Chris1964]

Sellthrough:

[PS3] Gran Turismo 6 - 30-40%

Gran Turismo Portable -> Gran Turismo 6 looks like another Type-0 -> Lighting Returns situation and we are finally done with Sony's remaining big franchise in Japan. They killed everything they had.

 

[Square2015]

Nope, just some charts: http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2006/10/13/103,1160720249,61666,0,0.html

Hey THANK YOU SO MUCH! The graph at the conference shows Famitsu's revised early N64 figures, wow great find, their original figures were so low, I can finally update my dead low early famitsu N64 data!

BUT, there are no PSX charts at that link, just PS2, PSP, PS3... where'd the PSX data come from?

 

[test_account]

Gran Turismo Portable -> Gran Turismo 6 looks like another Type-0 -> Lighting Returns situation and we are finally done with Sony's remaining big franchise in Japan. They killed everything they had.

I dont think they could have done anything different with Gran Turismo 6. Seems to me that the appeal of this type of game has simply gone down quite a bit during the last ~10 years.

 

[schuelma]

I dont think they could have done anything different with Gran Turismo 6. Seems to me that the appeal of this type of game has simply gone down quite a bit during the last ~10 years.

Well, I think the question is why.

 

[test_account]

Well, I think the question is why.

In my previous reply, i was thinking more about that there isnt really that much creative leeway in a Gran Turismo game besides stuff like making new cars, new tracks, tuning options and improving the driving physics. If people lose interest in this type of game, i would say that it kinda "kills" itself, its not really the developer's fault.

While in a game like Final Fantasy, there is much more creative freedom and more things that can be done, so here its more up to the developer which direction they want to take. If they take one direction and see that people arent interested in it, they can change it up for the next game. Its harder to do that in a driving simulator.

Its an interesting question though. I think maybe one of the biggest reason for it is that people have found other interests instead, and there arent enough new gamers that are interested in the games to keep it on the same level of popularity. Same thing regarding fighting games too.

 

[ambientmystic]

Its an interesting question though. I think maybe one of the biggest reason for it is that people have found other interests instead, and there arent enough new gamers that are interested in the games to keep it on the same level of popularity. Same thing regarding fighting games too.

Or in the context of Japan, needs moar animu vehicle skins to make it relevant to their interests again.

Which is what Bamco tried to do with the long standing Ace Combat series with Ace Combat Assault Horizon and their Idolmaster Skins (as an example), or the sudden inclusion of first person COD-like modes (with the gunner in a chopper missions) hoping to pull in two/three divergent fanbases into one game, and ended up repelling all of them lol.

The ones interested in the purest experience that only GT can offer are dwindling in numbers.

 

[saichi]

Taiko didn't hold well at all while everything is starting to get the Nintendo Holiday Boost

how so? -56% for 2nd week is not good?

That would be hilarious because a Vita version would have sold more in Japan. GT is slowly (rapidly?) becoming a Western franchise so it's kinda moot but still fun to think about it.

you are joking, right?

 

[AmanoBuff]

Or in the context of Japan, needs moar animu vehicle skins to make it relevant to their interests again.

Which is what Bamco tried to do with the long standing Ace Combat series with Ace Combat Assault Horizon and their Idolmaster Skins (as an example), or the sudden inclusion of first person COD-like modes (with the gunner in a chopper missions) hoping to pull in two/three divergent fanbases into one game, and ended up repelling all of them lol.

The ones interested in the purest experience that only GT can offer are dwindling in numbers.

I think this is the key.

Whereas other genres have some leeway in regards to how they can innovate, GT is characterized for providing a "pure" experience, and you can only take realism so far before it is perceived as repetitive by everyone but the most hardcore fans.

 

[Chris1964]

Hey THANK YOU SO MUCH! The graph at the conference shows Famitsu's revised early N64 figures, wow great find, their original figures were so low, I can finally update my dead low early famitsu N64 data!

BUT, there are no PSX charts at that link, just PS2, PSP, PS3... where'd the PSX data come from?

How many accounts are you gonna create?

 

[dolemite]

Today i went again to the main Bic Camera shop in Ikebukuro and now both versions of Dragon Quest X are sold out.

http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/Mobile Uploads/image_zpse7a7675b.jpg

Sellthrough:

[PS3] Gran Turismo 6 - 30-40%
[WII] [WIU] Dragon Quest X - more than 80%
[3DS] Attack on Titan - 40-50%
[3DS] Bravely Default - 40%
[3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go 3 - 20%

[WIU] Mario & Sonic - 5%
[3DS] Gaist Crusher - bomba rabbids

Well, the GT series, once it moves to the PS4, has nowhere else to go but up.
Mario & Sonic.... just wow.

 

[Glass Rebel]

you are joking, right?

We were talking about a hypothetical scenario where GT6 won't sell more than 200k first week.

 

[Chris1964]

We were talking about a hypothetical scenario where GT6 won't sell more than 200k first week.

If GT doesn't appeal PS3 owners anymore there are zero reasons it will appeal Vita owners.

Well, the GT series, once it moves to the PS4, has nowhere else to go but up.

Sony surely has a history giving life again to falling franchises.

 

[Magicpaint]

If GT doesn't appeal PS3 owners anymore there are zero reasons it will appeal Vita owners.

Yeah I'm not seeing the logic of a hypothetical Vita version doing better. GT Portable didn't do very well in comparison to GT5 either.

 

[E-Cat]

I thought XIII 360 did okay in the usual markets (US, UK, etc)? It undersold PS3 everywhere still but the numbers weren't bad like Japan?

Considering the X360 installed base in Japan, it would have been impossible for XIII to do worse in other territories (relative to the size of the market).

 

[Sammy Samusu]

Crazy to see people choosing to play an MMO on Wii over Wii U.

Wii: http://www.yodobashi.com/ec/product/stock/100000001001876367/index.html (Amazon #5)
Wii U: http://www.yodobashi.com/ec/product/stock/100000001001876368/index.html (Amazon #22)

PSV Value Pack seems to be a bit popular too, definitely more than the last few packs.

 

[michaelius]

Crazy to see people choosing to play an MMO on Wii over Wii U.

Wii: http://www.yodobashi.com/ec/product/stock/100000001001876367/index.html (Amazon #5)
Wii U: http://www.yodobashi.com/ec/product/stock/100000001001876368/index.html (Amazon #22)

PSV Value Pack seems to be a bit popular too, definitely more than the last few packs.

Nothing crazy - they already have Wii so playing Wii version costs them few k Yens, playing on Wii U would cost them 30+ k

 

[Glass Rebel]

If GT doesn't appeal PS3 owners anymore there are zero reasons it will appeal Vita owners.

I could see it selling merely on the fact that there is nothing like it on the platform and local multiplayer while PS3 has already seen GT5 Prologue, Prologue Spec II, GT5 and GT5 Spec III.

 

[saichi]

We were talking about a hypothetical scenario where GT6 won't sell more than 200k first week.

and GT on VITA would have sold more than 200K first week? Do you know how much GT PSP sold first week?

I could see it selling merely on the fact that there is nothing like it on the platform and local multiplayer while PS3 has already seen GT5 Prologue, Prologue Spec II, GT5 and GT5 Spec III.

Yup. that definitely helped GT PSP.

 

[ILoveBish]

Crazy to see people choosing to play an MMO on Wii over Wii U.

Wii: http://www.yodobashi.com/ec/product/stock/100000001001876367/index.html (Amazon #5)
Wii U: http://www.yodobashi.com/ec/product/stock/100000001001876368/index.html (Amazon #22)

PSV Value Pack seems to be a bit popular too, definitely more than the last few packs.

Japan is fine playing games on the 3ds, which has as much graphical power as a modern calculator. Why would they spend more for better graphics, they don't care, plus its cheaper.

 

[Chris1964]

I could see it selling merely on the fact that there is nothing like it on the platform and local multiplayer while PS3 has already seen GT5 Prologue, Prologue Spec II, GT5 and GT5 Spec III.

GTAIV saw multiple releases on PS3, that didn't stop GTAV selling better.

 

[Tripon]

GTAIV saw multiple releases on PS3, that didn't stop GTAV selling better.

Well, you can tell that GTAV was a clear upgrade from IV. I don't think you can say the same of GTVI over GT5 and its many expansions/prequels.

 

[Glass Rebel]

GTAIV saw multiple releases on PS3, that didn't stop GTAV selling better.

Sure, but GTA isn't like Gran Turismo. A whole new story with new characters and a new world compared to more cars with more or less slight improvements. I'm just saying that I think Gran Turismo would sell more than 200k on Vita.

 

[cafemomo]

The Vita really does need a Gran Turismo title

Bundle that with the Vita TV, and it will be a instabuy for me

 

[saichi]

Sure, but GTA isn't like Gran Turismo. A whole new story with new characters and a new world compared to more cars with more or less slight improvements. I'm just saying that I think Gran Turismo would sell more than 200k on Vita.

No you were saying that Gran Turismo would sell more than 200k first week on Vita.

 

[Glass Rebel]

No you were saying that Gran Turismo would sell more than 200k first week on Vita.

Yeah, maybe I was getting a bit ahead of myself and mixing FW and LTD.

 

[hiska-kun]

Can't wait for Puzzle & Dragons Z sales numbers. Adverts are running in Japan and the demo caused a good impression on players. Big game for this holiday.

 

[Magicpaint]

Can't wait for Puzzle & Dragons Z sales numbers. Adverts are running in Japan and the demo caused a good impression on players. Big game for this holiday.

Million seller big?

 

[Mpl90]

Million seller big?

If you look at Comgnet pts, especially considering how the actual sales / pts ratio is increasing recently (i.e. more sales per pt)...I'd say it could become a million seller in two weeks.

 

[Tripon]

Million seller big?

That's what the CEO of GungHo expected and wanted.

 

[Mpl90]

Let's put it this way

Comgnet's store chain - as of December 7th, 2013

[3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - 558pt
[3DS] Puzzle and Dragons Z - 678pt

 

[BlackJace]

Let's put it this way

Comgnet's store chain - as of December 7th, 2013

[3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - 558pt
[3DS] Puzzle and Dragons Z - 678pt

Jesus

 

[BriBri]

Jesus

I think it's worth mentioning his father in times like this

 

[Glass Rebel]

Let's put it this way

Comgnet's store chain - as of December 7th, 2013

[3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - 558pt
[3DS] Puzzle and Dragons Z - 678pt

dafuq

 

[Asd202]

Let's put it this way

Comgnet's store chain - as of December 7th, 2013

[3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - 558pt
[3DS] Puzzle and Dragons Z - 678pt

Oh wow.

 

[Scum]

Let's put it this way

Comgnet's store chain - as of December 7th, 2013

[3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - 558pt
[3DS] Puzzle and Dragons Z - 678pt

:O

 

[QaaQer]

Let's put it this way

Comgnet's store chain - as of December 7th, 2013

[3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - 558pt
[3DS] Puzzle and Dragons Z - 678pt

I know I've asked this before, but does anyone know if P&D has microtransactions on 3ds? I'd like to try the game, but mts really turn me off.

 

[Coldnoodle]

Let's put it this way

Comgnet's store chain - as of December 7th, 2013

[3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - 558pt
[3DS] Puzzle and Dragons Z - 678pt

 

[Tripon]

I know I've asked this before, but does anyone know if P&D has microtransactions on 3ds? I'd like to try the game, but mts really turn me off.

They took out all of the social links, I heard. Its a tradtional game in that respect.

 

[BriBri]

I know I've asked this before, but does anyone know if P&D has microtransactions on 3ds? I'd like to try the game, but mts really turn me off.

I'm led to believe it's the full game with a Youkai Watch looking RPG mode.

 

[vinnygambini]

I know I've asked this before, but does anyone know if P&D has microtransactions on 3ds? I'd like to try the game, but mts really turn me off.

New game altogether (no microstransactions)

P&D is looking to have a great debut. Nintendo scored big.

 

[PdotMichael]

Well, I think the question is why.

dead genre? GT is the only console racing series in Japan anymore - all the other series are long gone.

There isn't much Sony could do.

 

[Asd202]

Puzzle and Dragons Z numbers next week or later?

 

[slaughterking]

Puzzle and Dragons Z numbers next week or later?

We'll get them on the 18th.

 

[L Thammy]

Let's put it this way

Comgnet's store chain - as of December 7th, 2013

[3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - 558pt
[3DS] Puzzle and Dragons Z - 678pt

Holy poop. And I guess this is expected to have some hold, being a more casual-focused game? Serious mobile -> handheld spinoff efforts like this would be an interesting trend to see.

 

[QaaQer]

New game altogether (no microstransactions)

P&D is looking to have a great debut. Nintendo scored big.

Now to wait for an NA localization.