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So we all agree that it's uncool to poach on someone else's girl, even if she's into you... right?

Even if you think she might be the one..?

Right?

..
right? :(

I went for it. Well actually, we didn't for a while but we knew he liked each other. We were friends but our feelings were too strong. Ended up falling in love with her and she fell in love with me. At that point I didn't care she was with someone, I went for it, all in, I had to have her. Ended up losing not only the girl I loved but my best friend too. :(
 
So we all agree that it's uncool to poach on someone else's girl, even if she's into you... right?

Even if you think she might be the one..?

Right?

..
right? :(

Depends on what you mean by "poach". Do you mean cheat with her while she's in a relationship? If so, yes, that's uncool (also, if all you want to do is have sex with her really badly, spoiler alert: you don't think she's the one. You just want to fuck her.)

On the other hand, if by "poach" you mean letting her know that you're interested in her romantically and would like to go out sometime, then no, that's fine. In fact, I'd say you're not being fair to yourself if you don't let the people you're interested in know that you're interested in them. Always do that.
 
For you guys with *dating* issues, go back to the OP and (re)watch the David Wygant video I posted there. I'm rewatching it right now before heading out and it's SO damn good! "Fuck closing (girls), they're not DOORS! They will close themselves IF they like you!".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4SyrLtN4Nc

That's how I've always seen it. It's sort of hard to "ruin" your chances with someone that's interested in you, so don't sweat the small stuff.

The problem is getting them interested in you.
 
That's how I've always seen it. It's sort of hard to "ruin" your chances with someone that's interested in you, so don't sweat the small stuff.

The problem is getting them interested in you.

If they're not interested, they're not interested. That doesn't mean that there's something wrong with you, they just don't see you in a romantic light. They might change their mind after a while, but showering them with attention and gifts probably won't change their mind. That's kind of how I think about dating, anyway.
 
If they're not interested, they're not interested. That doesn't mean that there's something wrong with you, they just don't see you in a romantic light.

True. But when I can count the ones that saw me in a romantic light on one hand, I think it's safe to say somethings wrong with me.

They might change their mind after a while, but showering them with attention and gifts probably won't change their mind. That's kind of how I think about dating, anyway.

Exactly my line of thinking too. I'm not the "shower them with gifts and attention" type. I'm more of the "I like talking with you, lets grab a drink". And if that goes well I invite them out some more and make moves accordingly.
 
It REALLY baffles my mind that girls like Leeness and MistressMoinie exist and that they cant seem to find guys because they are too "nerdy". I mean, I bet it would be great to be in a relationship with someone who shared my same interests (at least we would never be at a loss for themes to talk about, stuff to do, etc). So how come these girls, which seem to be quite charming (according to what Ive read in this thread, mind you) cant seem to find anyone that would appreciate this? Does not compute. :/

What does MistressMoinie look like?
 
Just found out my ex went back to her ex. The same one who cheated on her multiple times and treated her like complete dogshit. One of the main reasons we even broke up was that she needed a break from relationships. I'll never understand liars and cheaters. So glad I'm done with that bullshit.
 
Girls into games doesn't really help at all going by my last two experiences. I think I'm getting to the point where I'd rather not date a gamer. :p
 
Sometimes, I wish I were in some kind of a relationship, but the idea of it overwhelms me.

Maybe I need to see a psychiatrist.
 
Sometimes, I wish I were in some kind of a relationship, but the idea of it overwhelms me.

Maybe I need to see a psychiatrist.
It's usually a good idea to talk to a psychologist (psychiatrists are usually trained to just prescribe medication not exactly talk things out). Relationships can be pretty overwhelming.

As for dating people with the same interests, personally it's more important to find someone you can share activities with as well as someone who doesn't make you feel dumb or whatever for having different interests. But if say games or exercise or some interest is a huge part of your life, I can see why people would prefer to find someone who already shares that common ground. Tying someone to an interest though is kind of... eh. All sorts of people can latch onto an interest, so in many cases it's probably not benefitting you to paint them with broad strokes.
 
It's usually a good idea to talk to a psychologist (psychiatrists are usually trained to just prescribe medication not exactly talk things out). Relationships can be pretty overwhelming.

I wonder what topics a psychologist would discuss with me.
 
It REALLY baffles my mind that girls like Leeness and MistressMoinie exist and that they cant seem to find guys because they are too "nerdy". I mean, I bet it would be great to be in a relationship with someone who shared my same interests (at least we would never be at a loss for themes to talk about, stuff to do, etc). So how come these girls, which seem to be quite charming (according to what Ive read in this thread, mind you) cant seem to find anyone that would appreciate this? Does not compute. :/

you dont want that man. TRUST ME.
 
If you don't mind, can you share us the details? I don't know if that kind of process will benefit me.

Effectively, it breaks down your own thought process to help you see the flaws in your thinking. Eventually you realize how insanely wrong your thoughts are, and then start catching those incorrect and unhelpful thoughts and replacing them with more helpful and accurate ones.

I had a lot feelings on women and relationships that turned out to be just assumptions and weren't accurate at all... CBT helped me see things more clearly.
 
I downloaded the Tinder app out of curiosity, and man, it is time consuming. You would think it would be awesome just rating pictures all day long, but no, it gets tiring pretty quick. All for very little payoff.

Admittedly, I have only had the app for three days, so that is probably why. I know this is like online dating lite, but I have newfound respect for those of you that use online dating as a tool. Shit is not easy.
 
Indeed. I wanted to get back into Badoo but it seems they deleted my account faster than the promised 30 days leeway time so I can't come back without redoing my profile from scratch. I don't think I'll bother for a while. The payoff is as you say very small compared to thd amount of work required.
 
I hate it when you flirt with someone over the internet and she's really into you and two weeks after she goes "i've started seeing someone :]".

Ughh...
 
It REALLY baffles my mind that girls like Leeness and MistressMoinie exist and that they cant seem to find guys because they are too "nerdy". I mean, I bet it would be great to be in a relationship with someone who shared my same interests (at least we would never be at a loss for themes to talk about, stuff to do, etc). So how come these girls, which seem to be quite charming (according to what Ive read in this thread, mind you) cant seem to find anyone that would appreciate this? Does not compute. :/
I've dated a couple girls like this, and in those relationships the girl's low self-confidence and general social awkwardness caused the relationships to implode. For the most part, a lot of guys I know and that I am acquainted with seem to avoid these kinds of women not because of their interests, but because trying to start a conventional relationship with one can be extremely difficult.
 
I hate it when you flirt with someone over the internet and she's really into you and two weeks after she goes "i've started seeing someone :]".

Ughh...
It's almost as weird as the girl who was supposed to come here today. She's been to an after party at my place before, she chased me all night that day over texts, we kissed twice, we made plans to meet again but I don't hear anything for a month or so. I contact her and she's happy to hear from me and wants to come by alone and talk to me. She wonders what I want to do and I tell her the truth, I want to know more about her trip to Tenerife and get to know her more. I tell her that we can meet up downtown since she doesn't remember how to get to my place and we can walk here and see what happens and she happily agrees to come by, but never does. The day after, I see her at the club that we both said we were gonna meet at, but she has her tongue down the throat of some guy and never sees me. We had plans for today, last chance imho, and on Friday she says that she isn't interested in sex whatsoever, all of a sudden. She hasn't come by today, obviously :lol As stn told me, especially with young girls like this 19 year old, don't expect anything, least of all that she's into you, until she's really almost literally in to you. Even more so if it's a girl from online.
 
Seems pretty silly. Best advice is the easiest; cut contact, pickup new hobby, hit the gym, delete (or delete them from) social media.
The post helps because it goes through all the stages of a breakup. It makes it feel normal and gives you hope that there's light at the end of the tunnel. Your advice is good, but it's just straight cut and lacks the empathy that people who are crestfallen need.
 
MUST-READ post for anyone going through a breakup: http://www.reddit.com/r/relationships/comments/1iybju/great_advice_on_getting_over_a_breakup_ive/

It's helping me a lot.

Good read. The keystones are what we've all heard before, but I do like to see the stages laid out from another perspective. My breakup didn't wreak me like the guy that wrote that, but instead of crying I was just filled with this overwhelming despair and depression.
That's been gone for a while now, and I'm feeling like I am far into the "fix yourself" stage. I'm actually feeling pretty great these days.

The only thing that sucks is I do still feel alone. All my best friends are in long term relationships, and refuse to do ANYTHING outside of their house. It's driving me mad. I've branched out and made some new friends and rekindled old friendships, but even then I'm still feeling like the third wheel.
 
yeah I know, don't want to seem too emo and I keep telling that to myself but after a certain amount of time has passed, the chances begin to seem more and more unlikely

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You'll find someone. :)
 
Hello Gaf...here is my Bio

I am 26. Living with my parents. Gonna be finishing school in a week (will have a management and HR Bach degrees). I have zero sexual experience. Haven't kissed a girl since I was 7. Ive been trying to get out more and I work a retail store, Ive been taking some of the females out to lunch and it goes alright, but never amounts to anything.

Story...It's a long one, but entertaining

So about 3 weeks ago, I saw one of the female cashiers (23 with 2 kids) sitting outside on her break, so I stopped by and we chat for her whole 15 minute break, she was pretty cool, so I decided to look on the schedule and see when our schedules met up, so we could both go out to lunch. The only day was black Friday, so we drove to Sonic (fast food). That went pretty well.

Skip to last Wednesday, I was walking in front of the registers and getting ready to head outside, when she stopped me and ask me when my lunch was, and she getting off while I was going to lunch, so she invited me out to lunch. We then go out to lunch again (she just got a coffee from starbucks and I got something from another store's deli). As we were driving there, I told I go out just about every weekend. Then this is how the convo goes after I tell her that...

"So do you just bring women to your parents house?"

"No thats what motels are for"

"!, Are you a manwhore!?

"Manwhore!?

She also told me on this outing that she lives in a small town with a bunch of sluts, but that she was not one. That outing went pretty well too, so now I decided to make a move on Friday (2 days after) when we both worked again, and finally get her #, so me and her can do shit outside of work.

Friday rolls around. She goes out to her car for lunch and I stop by and chat. She sees me shivering, so she tells me to get in her car (its 23 F outside). So after like 15 minutes of talking, I say...

"So since your done with school and I'll be done with school at the end of this next week (This week now)", How about you and I go out and celebrate"

"Yeah I'm up for that"

"Alright, so to make this a little easier, can I get your number so I can just text you and it'll be a little easier to plan it out?"

"Um, I don't know about that. Ive had problems with other guys when I gave them my number, they would harass me. Once we hang out a bit more, you can have it"

So we talk for another 15 minutes and she is telling me that she wont be able to get home, because of the snow and ice going up a big hill. So she told me she might be going to her mom's that lives 45 minutes away, but doesn't really want to, because she her and her mom are on bad terms, so I offer to take her out when she gets off that evening (I got off at 6:30, she got off at 8:30). She says yeah possibly, and mentions that we should could go out to a bar or just grabbing a 12 pack and get a motel.

Alright, my interest was just super peaked at that point.

She is still unsure, so I tell I'll just check back with her as leaving work, so I check back with her and she say...

"I don't know, what do you want to do?"

"Alright, we're going out then, I'll be back in 2 hours to pick you up"

"Cool, I get off at 8:30"

So I get home and pack, clothes, contact lens case, phone charger, latex (lol), etc...

I get back at 8:30 and pick her up. I ask her what she wants to do. She says she doesn't care. Went to a local bar with Karaoke. We talk for half hour and have a couple of drinks, I sing 1 song and we play one game of pool. There wasn't alot of people, and I could tell she wasn't having that much fun. She quit right in the middle of the game of pool and said she couldn't believe she was playing that bad. So I ask if she wants to go to the city where her mom is (to another bar or motel), or just stick around here and go to another bar. She wants to go to another local bar.

But she wants to stop by a store and grab some sweats, so she can get out of her work pants. We go to the store and she picks up some pants and since we were going to another bar, didn't really think of picking up and alcohol at the store.

We go to a pick up bar, that has a lot more people. We talk for about an hour, and she says this...

"I hope no one at work thinks we're going out"

"Lol, why do you care? You'll be leaving this job in 3-4 months anyway"

"Yeah"

So we have about 2 more drinks each (I'm a little buzzed by this point, she is sober. We are both 5'7, but I am like 130 and she is like 170-180...Do the math). At this point she is really getting tired, so I ask her if she wants to leave and just get a motel. She says yes. I have a hard time finding any cheap motels on my phone, so I go ask the bouncer and says there is one like 250 feet from the bar.

We drive there, and there is no one at the front desk, except for one of the cleaning ladies. She trys to help us, but after like 10 minutes of waiting, she cant figure out how to charge my debit card. The lady says we'll have to just go somewhere else.

We then go to a 2nd motel and this time there is someone at the front desk this time, but she is a noob. Has a hell of time finding the correct paper work and just cursing up a storm. By this point, my friend (or whatever) is looking frustrated. 15 minutes later, after filling out some paper work, we get the keys to our room (standard queen bed room), We have to go outside (where its like 20 F outside), freezing our balls off, we finally find the room. I put the key in, open the door and find a half naked man, and a half naked women laying on top of the bed watching tv. That guy speaks up right away and says, wrong room.

We can't believe what just happened. Go back and tell the desk girl what happened. She can't find anymore queen rooms, but tells us she'll just us a 2 twin bed room and charge us for a queen. She walks with us this time and makes sure it doesn;t happen again.

No one is in there this time, so we get in, she takes the 1st bed and immediately plops down on the bed. I kind of stand there for a second and all thats going through my head was...

"I'm not a slut"

"I hope no one at work thinks we're going out"

PLus I was just thinking how tired and not happy she looked in the lobby.

So I decided not to try anything.

I grabbed the other bed, changed and hop in bed like 10 minutes later.

We both fall asleep about 1 am and both awake at 6 am.

We talk for a few minutes, then she says...

"Are you mad at me for not sleeping with you?"

"No..............What, were just expecting that as soon as we walked through the door, that I was just gonna jump on top of you?"

"Yeah...........I mean you also didn't even really try to sleep with me..........I was also surprised you went to the other bed. You could have slept with me in this bed"

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Well I know now for the future"

Fuck man that was awful! Massive failure!!!!!

So we leave the hotel and are driving back to work to pick up her car. She first says we should stop by starbacks and grab some coffee. About half way there, she starts feeling around looking for her keys, she cant find them and doesn't remember having them last night. We get to her car and the keys are laying in the passenger seat

We call a few lock smiths...one says they can be there in 40 minutes. She has to give them her phone #, so they can call her whatever reason (she is using my phone, because her phone is dead)...after the phone call, she says "well there was your chance to get my phone number, did you get it?" I didn't, but mentioned about 5 minutes later that, they wont be able to call her, since her phone is dead. She calls back, and has to give her phone number again ( i memorize it), then I give them my number. When I hang up, i put her number in my phone real quick, then ask if I got it right...she says dammit lol...So in the mean time, we go to starbucks for coffee and breakfast. That was alright.

Lock smith got there like a minute after we got back, we were both standing outside freezing while the guy was getting the car unlocked, we were both shaking, so i put my arm around her and and pull her in. The guy finishes and its $100 for the job.

She invites me to lunch at Taco Bell (she drives this time) and eat there.

We agree to go out again on next week.
 
So about 3 weeks ago, I saw one of the female cashiers (23 with 2 kids) sitting outside on her break, so I stopped by and we chat for her whole 15 minute break, she was pretty cool, so I decided to look on the schedule and see when our schedules met up, so we could both go out to lunch.

Very entertaining story. So who takes care of her kids?
 
Tdog, good story.

I think you should have known when she initially said you guys should get a 12 pack and got to a hotel. I dunno, that just sounds really obvious to me. You were in there.
 
Tdog, good story.

I think you should have known when she initially said you guys should get a 12 pack and got to a hotel. I dunno, that just sounds really obvious to me. You were in there.

That opportunity may never come again. I am just kicking myself now,

Just had dinner with her.
 
I just wrote a real long post about something and then promptly deleted it after a bit of thought. Basically asked out a girl to a formal party a few weeks back. Just had it last night, and she was awesome. Far and away the most attractive girl I've ever had as a date, and I was really impressed by her all night in her openness and how genuine she was (which in my book is really important). I walked her back afterwards and we talked for a while outside her dorm, and we hugged goodbye and I took my chance and told her I liked her and wanted to keep in touch. We kissed for a bit, and then I left. She texted me as I walked home and until I fell asleep. Still kinda riding on the high from it. I'm not really sure how interested she is, but she kind of swept me off my feet and I'm trying to keep my calm.
 
wow

Who knows, but it seems you actually impressed her.

I may be wrong, but i think you did good. Don't kick yourself for not having sex with her, it was a shitty night and the sex would probably had been awful.

I don't know man. Awful sex is better than no sex I'm guessing...since Ive never had it
 
She had one of my friends text me to meet her at work in 50 minutes (he texted me like 3 hours ago). And I agreed

I went, she just wanted her work pants back. I made a dinner out of it though, since I came all that way. Planning to hang out with her next Tuesday.
 
Good god, my ex thinks we can still be friends while she's fucking the boyfriend she had before me. Are you fucking serious, woman? We just broke up a few weeks ago!
 
I just wrote a real long post about something and then promptly deleted it after a bit of thought. Basically asked out a girl to a formal party a few weeks back. Just had it last night, and she was awesome. Far and away the most attractive girl I've ever had as a date, and I was really impressed by her all night in her openness and how genuine she was (which in my book is really important). I walked her back afterwards and we talked for a while outside her dorm, and we hugged goodbye and I took my chance and told her I liked her and wanted to keep in touch. We kissed for a bit, and then I left. She texted me as I walked home and until I fell asleep. Still kinda riding on the high from it. I'm not really sure how interested she is, but she kind of swept me off my feet and I'm trying to keep my calm.


that's nice =)
 
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