indigo-cyclops
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There is a tutorial, they've refined it quite a lot in the past two years. The first time I played, in 2007 or so, it was shit and I had no idea what to do.
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There is a tutorial, they've refined it quite a lot in the past two years. The first time I played, in 2007 or so, it was shit and I had no idea what to do.
tokyo slim
Banned
Ah, see - I was before that even. From what I remember, once you selected your ship, they just launched you out into space.
Good question. All we know is that there is indeed alien life and the procedurally generated worlds are supposed to get more dangerous and more 'alien' as you progress deeper into the galaxy.
Beautiful. I will keep everything for myself!
tokyo slim
Banned
Anyways, I wasn't trying to derail. My comment was more in the vein of "I'm glad that there's not other players waiting around to kill and exploit beginners in a space exploration game." Please read it as such.
Yep, here it is from the RPS preview:
The worlds are procedurally generated and unique to you, unless you choose to share. How great is that? Everyone is in the same galaxy, but will have the fascination of discovering their own strange worlds.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Nah, not true. I had one alt, which i mostly used for scouting in fleets, not isk making and i' did literally almost everything in EVE.
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Pirates will want to kill You. Same goes for pirates NPCs in games or enemies in games in general. Not every player should be friendly, it goes against any logic. And yes, everything in DS games tries to kill from the beginning of Your journey.
And even in 2005 You 'could not be killed' in high security system and had information about entering low-sec. I know, because i played also for week back then and already knew what low-sec is.
Dont You think that judging game in 2013 from 2005/2004 experience is to say the least - irrelevant?
twisteddeeds
Member
It'll be interesting watching various people stream this game just to see the different experiences people will have..
tokyo slim
Banned
From what I understand, it's still full of griefers. Like it or not, that's just kind of the public image EVE has. Considering my own limited experience backs that up, it seemed reasonable to me.
And I'm sure that lots of people have quit playing after getting frustrated. Not being able to fight back or control the character, or achieve any goals.
It doesn't sound like "fun" to some people. I haven't gotten around to playing them yet, but if the game literally begins with you facing off against a crew of people who've been playing and getting better weapons and levelling up, while you have like whatever the equivalent of a wooden stick is - then you've just talked me out of playing it. Thanks.
Not really. I quit Everquest after Luclin and that game is still going on today. I'm not going to jump back on in 2013 based on judgements I made about the direction the game had taken several years back.
If a game doesn't jive with you in 2005, it's not going to jive with you in 2013. Eve was too daunting for me and I didn't want to dedicate so much time and effort into one single game when there were so many others to play. That judgement hasn't changed in 2013.
I just hope that it would take such a long time to do that no one bothers.
Why shouldnt be there tons of griefers? Its a sandbox game with player driven economy, but You wont meet them if You dont want to, in 99% of cases
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Where did I say that You need to get back and play? But judging a game - 'this is how it looks like for everyone who joins the game' from experience of totally noob from 7 years ago is insane. Game is different/refined in almost every aspect today.
Also, is completely irrelevant to No Man's Sky.
indigo-cyclops
Member
This game just sounds so amazing. This could be the game that does what Mass Effect decided to give up on. Really make you feel you were in space, visiting other worlds. That's just my thoughts. I'm sure there's a lot more to it than that.
I just can't wait.
I just can't wait.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
Aw, minor hype loss at the lack of multi-player.
CharmingCharlie
Member
I can easily see Sony chomping at the bit if they get an opportunity to keep this game OFF the PC. After all the whole job of "exclusives" is to shift consoles and if they keep No Man's Sky off the PC then PC gamers that like this game will have to pony up for a playstation 4 to play it.
I also noticed this from the RPS article :-
Now sure he was talking about the "game experience" but I would say speculation wise it is silly to say this game is "confirmed" to be coming to the PC. At most you can say it is confirmed to be coming to next gen systems with them leaning towards the PS4.
tokyo slim
Banned
Why shouldnt be there tons of griefers? Its a sandbox game with player driven economy, but You wont meet them if You dont want to, in 99% of cases
So apparently my judgement of the game from 2005 is not so stupid or irrelevant?
That's fine. Again, I'm just thankful that No Man's Sky isn't going to be like that. You are free to be disappointed, I'm not trying to judge or anything. It's just not what I want this game to be and it seems like good news to me that it's not.
Finster
Member
Is there any precedence of Sony paying money to keep games off PC? Seems counter to a company's ideals when they own Sony Online Entertainment pumping out PC games.
If Sony can't get PC gamers to buy a PS4 to play other Sony exclusives, I don't see how paying for this game changes the situation that much, other than preventing a huge audience from experiencing this game.
This is most likely the case. They added the tutorials later to be fair.
So You really think that players should not be able to attack other players at all in a sandbox game?
And how is it even relevant to this game? They have completely different approach
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They were already in late 2006. Dunno when exactly they were added.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expansions_of_Eve_Online
They added tutorials in late 2005. They added more in a subsequent expansion.
I liked Eve and all, and you can play it safe in high sec if you want(mostly), but the game does have a lot of griefers(I should know, I was one of them.)
Huge letdown hearing about the multiplayer...."massively multiplayer" had my mind going crazy thinking about the possibilities. I was looking forward to exploring and fighting alongside friends. The game still sounds really ambitious but the lack of true multiplayer really bums me out.
Spring-Loaded
Member
no multi is disappointing. Could've had something akin to the canceled Star Wars Battlefront 3
Finster
Member
Wut? How would this be anything at all even remotely as to such as Star Wars Battlefront in any way shape or form?
No multi is great to me, hype increased. There's too many games I would like to play out there that are all multiplayer focused and I just don't like the format. Let me be by myself. The option though would be nice for those who like it, but I can't say I'm not happy there entire focus will be on the single player experience, which is all I care about.
CharmingCharlie
Member
The latest example of Sony doing this was of course "Everybody's Gone To Rapture" an Indie title from a developer that has done very well on the PC platform and the game was slated to be coming to the PC. However Sony snapped up exclusivity to the game and now it is a PS4 exclusive. It isn't hard to see "No Man's Sky" going the exact same way.
As for why Sony would do this, well the PC has been seen as the haven for Indie gaming, many PC gamers are into Indie games in a huge way. So by lessening the number of Indie games on the PC and increasing them on the PS4 you make a more compelling argument to someone that plays on the PC for the Indie experience.
Usually one game will not convince a PC gamer to switch but if you create an environment where all the best of what you want is on the PS4 then inevitably some will switch.
Now I am not saying this WILL happen. I am just saying that PC gamers should be wary about getting their hopes up with regards to playing "No Man's Sky" on their PC. Sony has already shown they have an interest in it, Sony has shown they will lock Indie titles down to the PS4 and keep them off the PC and Hello Games has shown in the past they are not against exclusive deals.
tokyo slim
Banned
Did I say that? I believe I am specifically talking about THIS game. In which case, no, I don't want higher level, experienced players being able to attack low level beginning players in this game. It seems like it would be an impediment to the way I want to play this game. Which is, from what I can tell, an exploration and resource game, not a space combat simulator.
It's relevant because people expressed disappointment that you probably can't attack other people in this game. So ask them why it's relevant, not me. I just replied that I'm glad it wasn't like that.
legacyzero
Banned
I really think this game (if anything) should be like Minecraft where people can host their own servers. Or people can join your game if you open it up to them.
Id prefer some level of co-op over a multiplayer full on.
Id prefer some level of co-op over a multiplayer full on.
Uno Venova
Banned
No multiplayer meaning you can't team up co-op and explore planets together? If not, sounds like a missed opportunity.
Prevolition
Member
I need to watch the trailer even more. It's so beautiful.
Awesome, thanks!
Even if it doesn't do this, I'm still very hyped for this game, but yeah I agree. A minecraft level of Co-op with griefing capabilities and whatever else that comes with it would be nice. Hell, even just a plain co-op with no griefing capabilities would be nice.
SolidSnakex
Member
That developer came to Sony and asked them for help on that project. As a result they have Sony Santa Monica helping them out with the game. It's only natural that it'd be exclusive due to that. I'm not saying that Sony wouldn't want this game exclusive for a period of time, but I don't think it's a decision that they'd try to push on to HG.
Sony gave them cash because otherwise they didn't think their game would get finished. I guess if No Man's Sky ends up the same way, unable to be completed without external funding outside of crowd sourcing, then yeah, Sony might snap up exclusivity.
But that's the only case where I see it happening. Bigger audience possibilities trump exclusivity unless they pay a lot or the project wouldn't be doable without the influx of cash.
ChawlieTheFair
pip pip cheerio you slags!
Little confused, does this mean like there is a single player galaxy but if you want to you can play in the multiplayer galaxy?
Spring-Loaded
Member
Have you see the footage of the work in progress build of Battlefront 3? The one that allowed seamless travel from ground into space?
No. The worlds are procedurally generated, meaning, different for everyone. Then if you so choose, you can upload any unique world you find and you will get the credit for that. Then and only then can others go to that world, deplete it's resources, etc.
ChawlieTheFair
pip pip cheerio you slags!
That sounds awesome.
GillianSeed79
Member
The way I understand it, and I could be wrong, the planet is "created" once you visit it by yourself and they are unique to each player. You can choose to "share" the planet's location with everyone else, at which point it becomes fixed and explorable by anyone else. You can choose to not share planet data with other people, which means it will be unique to your universe.
Edit: Beaten
Indeed it does.
Codeblew
Member
Life on a neutron star aint happening.
In that extremely dumbed down, distilled description, I am made far more excited about this game.
Fushichou187
Member
With only 4 people working on this game, I'd rather those resources be put toward the most stable, consistent experience than what typically happens when trying to shoehorn mp into everything.
Do I think a co-op or other multiplayer experience in this game could be awesome? Definitely. Do I think it's needed. Nope.
All the "missed opportunity" talk is strange since no one here has the faintest clue how the game will play out. If it does what it says on the tin, I think we'll be just fine and would itself be an incredible achievement in and of itself.
Do I think a co-op or other multiplayer experience in this game could be awesome? Definitely. Do I think it's needed. Nope.
All the "missed opportunity" talk is strange since no one here has the faintest clue how the game will play out. If it does what it says on the tin, I think we'll be just fine and would itself be an incredible achievement in and of itself.
Mango Positive
Member
Looks great, but...
The 1st question to pop into my head: Does "procedurally generated" mean "beautiful, but nothing interesting to find" like it does in almost every other instance of the term's usage?
My experience with games in general is that planned scenarios and experiences are far more rewarding than "we let the computer design the levels!" Replayability is overrated.
The 1st question to pop into my head: Does "procedurally generated" mean "beautiful, but nothing interesting to find" like it does in almost every other instance of the term's usage?
My experience with games in general is that planned scenarios and experiences are far more rewarding than "we let the computer design the levels!" Replayability is overrated.