^^^ Fan boy drivel such as that should have no place on this forum. Why're you so emotionally invested in such a thing?
You're serious?
NPD Sales Results for November 2013 [Up3: Zelda, Pokemon, Mario, 3DS, Wii U]
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You know what they did with all E.T video games in 1983? Nintendo needs to start making preparations to do that with the Wii U, bury it and move on. It's only going to get worse from here so unless they plan on releasing Mario, Zelda and Metroid games yearly, they need to take all that Wii money, build a decent console that is more powerful (can't stress this enough) than the Xbox and PS4. Sell their souls to Activision, EA and 2k. Without COD, FIFA, Madden, Battlefield and 2kSports. Your console isn't worth a damn, and it will always be relegated to being second or third choice.
Make an online service that can match every basic functionality of PS plus and Xbox Live. I'm sure it's not that hard to pay someone to make a side by side comparison of what those 2 services have in common with each other and make sure their service matches every commonality. Now if they don't do this I'm certain we'll see months where the Wii U ships <10k units in the U.S. All this needs to be done by Holiday 2015 for them to even stand a chance because once MS and Sony reach the economies of scale where they can produce these consoles for next to nothing (relatively) and the price drops start hitting, it's over.
Make an online service that can match every basic functionality of PS plus and Xbox Live. I'm sure it's not that hard to pay someone to make a side by side comparison of what those 2 services have in common with each other and make sure their service matches every commonality. Now if they don't do this I'm certain we'll see months where the Wii U ships <10k units in the U.S. All this needs to be done by Holiday 2015 for them to even stand a chance because once MS and Sony reach the economies of scale where they can produce these consoles for next to nothing (relatively) and the price drops start hitting, it's over.
Yeah dunno why there is all the hate. I mean it's dumb in the same way nearly all bro shooters are dumb, but at least it's pretty.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
You're going to want to sit down for this...
Knack was outsold by Super Mario by at least 2:1 in November.
1st Course
Member
Is the 3DS still down yoy overall or?
Someone please answer, I don't lurk these threads much.
Someone please answer, I don't lurk these threads much.
Thanks - glad to see that one of us isn't lazy - ha ha...
metalslimer
Member
Uh...yes. Notice how I didn't say they will never release another portable.
Salvor.Hardin
Banned
Really? You're celebrating a mediocre game possibly outselling a great one? Damn.
It also launched a week earlier. I honestly thought the PS4 would wreck the Xbox, this is like a light blow.
Chobel
Member
Sorry to disappoint you, but knack didn't outperform Mario
Mario 220k
Knack 90-100k
Doesn't look like that's happening in the US. Mario sold 215k and Knack is less than 100k.
Oh, and I like how you un-quoted my last post with your "huh" response. I guess you re-read the sentence and understood the situation.
Steve Youngblood
Member
Well, OK. I agree that they have to fulfill at least the commitments they've got underway now. Probably a few more games that are really early in production that we haven't seen as well. But in terms of what they have planned for holiday 2015, I have to think that they're keeping their options open. If Spring comes and Kart fails to make much of an impact, I have to think that they start winding things down. 2014 should be fine on the first party front, and most likely terrible on the third party front. 2015? We'll see what happens.
You know, I've been wondering if that includes bundles...
1 million plus consoles sold between the 360 and PS3 in years 8 and 7 of their lives respectively is still pretty damn impressive.
theprodigy
Member
lol
you sound like you might be on the verge of tears yourself
what bundles
So you're one of those people who've been deluded into thinking a hybrid console will fair better for them?
Is this what the gaming community has become?
metalslimer
Member
You do realize I'm talking about Sony?
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
No fan boy drivel here. I simply wish to be entertained at the meltdowns it would cause. Nothing more, nothing less.
Under 270k. Highest for an exclusive game.
That said, 3 of Microsoft's 5 exclusives being above 185k is pretty good.
Chobel
Member
270k
I'm 99% sure people are saying that to get a rise out of you
Knack bundles.
We will see. I just don't think this'll be a virtual boy type situation =P. They're going to support this thing for at least two more years. They have to, especially considering how long it takes to plan and put out a new console.
Well I don't invest in the stock market and I did put it out there that I had little backing my opinion but my belief and the gap that was present this gen. What do fans of the PS4 other than a 2 weeks of sales to extrapolate with? Like that would give an accurate representation for the entire generation. My statement has as much validity as those proclaiming the PS4 as the sure winner this gen.
None.
Nintendo will pull an N64 with Wii U. Support it on their own with random 3rd party helpings. By 2016 a new system will be announced/released. Wii U lasts 4yrs if things remain bad.
Thanks. Appreciated.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Where did i say that the Vita is doing decently int he US?
Hahaha no, my bad. The 3DS did so surprisingly bad this month I assumed. My apologies.
Steve Youngblood
Member
I don't see it being a Virtual Boy situation. But I could see it following the Vita playbook where it basically just meanders about without demonstrating any real ambition to make a major move into relevancy.
It may have if NPD bothered to add the bundles to it.
Woof. Vita is Dead McDead Dead. Wii U is right behind it. =/ Remember, if you're going to slam Wii U and 3DS based on the sales of their previous systems, do the same to Vita. PSP sold 70 million+ systems. Has Vita even reached 2-3 million in two years?
it's an inaugural generational black Friday npd thread. Of course it's big. This is tame compared to past npds mostly because these numbers were more or less expected all week
This is pretty much what I can see happening. The issue, still, is going to be a follow up trying to garner a base again. They have struggled for third party support for such a long time, even on the very successful wii.
I guess they have the potential of dropping the gamepad, but I have no idea how that would go.
Right? If the systems failing Nintendo putting money into making games that arent going to sell, and arent going to make a system sell seems...like bad business.
At this point all I expect is 2014 with a new console maybe 2016.
Vita's been around an extra 9 months. At this rate I'd hate to see what Wii U is like in 9 more months. :/
theprodigy
Member
I don't think bundles were much of a thing here, unlike Europe...?
EmCeeGramr
Member
It can't really be a Virtual Boy situation to begin with, considering that the Virtual Boy was intended from the start to be a proto-third-pillar weird stopgap measure that they could distance themselves if it flopped while they made real machines.
UNLESS THAT WAS THE PLAN ALL ALONG (it wasn't)
UNLESS THAT WAS THE PLAN ALL ALONG (it wasn't)
That's too late it needs to come a year before that so that they can have a console out for for awhile before 2019 and the generation after this (if there is one) come into play. I want to buy a Nintendo console, last one I owned was N64, but I'm not giving them any money when they keep pulling this shit thinking Mario will fix everything. They deserve to be where they are at. Compete or go home.
speculawyer
Member
Do we have any numbers for the titles in the Top 10?
Is that earlier graph correct such that COD:Ghosts did 6M across all platforms?
I guess everything in the top 10 at least did better than 300K
Is that earlier graph correct such that COD:Ghosts did 6M across all platforms?
I guess everything in the top 10 at least did better than 300K
Sounds about right since Killzone did 270k.
I fear that third party+Nintendo will always be tough. Even if the Wii U was on par with PS4/X1, if the software doesn't perform then the publishers won't support it.
I almost feel Nintendo needs a complete re-branding of some sort.
2015 is way too early. They won't shift any development resources this early on. 2014 we know what to expect from Nintendo with about half a dozen known games. 2015 could be empty except for a couple of games - Fire Emblem X Shin Megami & maybe Zelda. After that they can focus on new hardware for 2016
Wow at the WiiU numbers... Patcher wasn't far off and I thought they could do at least 350k.... 220k in November for a home console is beyond anything. This thing is somewhat dead. Never thought a dreamcast would happen again and that was maybe because it was ahead of its time but WiiU is basically 8 years late and the market rejects it for this.
Father_Brain
Banned
N64 and GC had profitable hardware, lower development costs, better first-party software sales, and (some) actual third-party support, so I'm not sure how applicable the examples of Nintendo's previous "failed" platforms actually are.
Assuming Nintendo stays in the hardware business, I think any software on track for 2014 will still ship as planned, and likely early 2015 as well... but the further from that point we get, the more questionable it becomes to keep any outstanding projects on a failed platform when they could be repurposed as launch titles for the next console.
CouldBeWorse
Member
I'm thinking of a number between 1 and 9. What are you thinking of?
Hmmm. Xbox 360 launched over 4. Is 2 really something to be happy with, especially with analysts predicting 3.25? I know that day one digital skews the comparison a bit (especially for the most hardcore, who are buying consoles day one), but it still seems a bit disappointing.