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Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS Thread 3: Ridley's Believe It or Not!
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Song of the Turtle
Member
Six months since the reveal, six months since the first trailer and the developer direct. I need some new footage - now. I'm already losing it ;_;
Dammit, how on earth did I survive 2006? >.>
Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIgc7ZB883ASix months since the reveal, six months since the first trailer and the developer direct. I need some new footage - now. I'm already losing it ;_;
Dammit, how on earth did I survive 2006? >.>
theprodigy
Member
this Amazon PS4 sellout thread is the best thing ever :lol
this Amazon PS4 sellout thread is the best thing ever :lol
That's a new one.
theprodigy
Member
That's a new one.
hey man, with Microsoft Math I can extrapolate that Xenoblade shall be passing GTAV's LTD sales shortly
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
Besides Ridley?
Meta Ridley is the next best choice.
Meta Ridley is the next best choice.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
As much as I hate the majority of Other M, Anthony I'd be pretty down with. I think one of the Metroid Prime Hunters while being super irrelevant could be fun to play as too. Dark Samus would've made a ton of sense in Brawl, but I feel her time has passed at this point.So I have a question to Smash-GAF. Besides Ridley, whom else do you think can help represent Sammy from the Metroid series in Smash?
Ridley really is the only big (both metaphorically and physically) character left for Metroid to rep before getting into weirder ways of expanding the franchises' presence in Smash.
Woah, I don't remember the footage on the plane from this.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
Fucking Donkey Kong could be another Metroid rep.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
Dark Samus and Dark Pit will be lucky to be color alts.
dark pit was already in brawl though
just without the red eyes and maybe some other minor details i may be forgetting
and ive just noticed the image itself is 3000 pixels vertically
wtf guys
just without the red eyes and maybe some other minor details i may be forgetting
thisGuys let's stop flooding the page with incredibly large images, it's annoying when they keep getting quoted and it fills up like half of the page.
and ive just noticed the image itself is 3000 pixels vertically
wtf guys
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
dark pit was already in brawl though
just without the red eyes and maybe some other minor details i may be forgetting
So Pit dressed in all black before Dark Pit even existed? Dark Pit couldn't even come up with an original palette swap? He belongs in the Dark Hall of Shame.
So I have a question to Smash-GAF. Besides Ridley, whom else do you think can help represent Sammy from the Metroid series in Smash?
Dark Samus, but I doubt we'll see a playable Prime character at this point.
There's also Anthony, if Sakurai can remember him.
Besides Ridley?
Meta Ridley is the next best choice.
This is the only logical choice.
oreomunsta
Banned
Whenever I see this, I can't help but feel bad for Luigi and how badly he gets pummelled. Possible Year of Luigi tongue-in-cheek joke?
Also, for another Metroid rep, it's obviously a Metroid, people. It's specials would be:
B: Attach to someone's head and drain their life force
Up-B: Attach to someone's head and drain their life force
Side-B: Attach to someone's head and drain their life force
Down-B: Attach to someone's head and drain their life force
How has no one guessed this yet?
SkullHydra
Member
Standard B seems like it'd take a lot to master. It's Up-B looks really underpowered though, while Down-B seems WAY too good! You need to work on your balancing...Also, for another Metroid rep, it's obviously a Metroid, people. It's specials would be:
B: Attach to someone's head and drain their life force
Up-B: Attach to someone's head and drain their life force
Side-B: Attach to someone's head and drain their life force
Down-B: Attach to someone's head and drain their life force
How has no one guessed this yet?
Dark Samus, because she actually has an interesting set of abilities to use for a move set: Clones, invisibility, corruption, transformation, tentacle hentai, etc.So I have a question to Smash-GAF. Besides Ridley, whom else do you think can help represent Sammy from the Metroid series in Smash?
Too bad stupid people think she's just blue Samus.
BassForever
Member
Only Metroid characters with any chance are Ridley and Dark Samus, even then they should just make Dark Samus an alt costume for Samus
Nah, I think Adam Malkovich has a significant chance of making it in and pissing us off.Only Metroid characters with any chance are Ridley and Dark Samus, even then they should just make Dark Samus an alt costume for Samus
BassForever
Member
Nah, I think Adam Malkovich has a significant chance of making it in and pissing us off.
What moves would he have? Sacrifice himself to destroy the metroids only to have them show up 5 minutes later in gameplay?
DICKS AHOY
Banned
Yeah, I feel even Anthony has more moveset potential shown off in Other M than Adam ever did. You even have a mini-boss fight where you team up while he powers up his huge-ass plasma cannon.What moves would he have? Sacrifice himself to destroy the metroids only to have them show up 5 minutes later in gameplay?
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Other rumor from GameFaqs. What a surprise!
Hello. I am a member of the Sora team interested in sharing with the Smash Fans some of the info about the new Smash games. I have been on GameFaqs since 2004, and I would like to protect my reputation as a result of that. All questions asking me about my other account will be ignored.
-The roster size is not finalized, but without time constraints, the game would have a total of 47 characters in it.
-Mewtwo and Roy are both returning. Mewtwo in particular has a revamped moveset using both of his mega evolutions, neither of which are used in his final smash
-As you can tell with the wanted total of characters being 47, there are 6 newcomers.
-The other three newcomers are: Bowser Jr., King K. Rool and Palutena. As they are still in development, it is unknown when they will be revealed.
-Due to the reception of the cuts from Melee, no cuts are planned to happen. This is also the reason for the lack of newcomers. Cuts may happen if time constraints become an issue, but the game is far enough into development where the situation is unlikely.
-Anticipated release date is Q2 2014.
-Kid Icarus receives a console stage based on the Underworld from the NES game. A hazard here is a Reaper that will come around from time to time and will summon reapettes.
-Stages from all past Smash Bros. games will be appearing on the Wii U. Smash 64 stages are: Peach's Castle, Planet Zebes and Sector Z. Melee stages are: Yoshi's Story, Fountain of Dreams, PokeFloats, Kongo Jungle and Fourside. Brawl will have 7 returning stages, which are: Castle Seige, Skyworld, Distant Planet, WarioWare.Inc, The Summit, Mario Bros. and Flat Zone 2.
-Some of the new assist trophies are: Eggplant Wizard (turns an enemy into an eggplant and they can't attack while in this form. Wears off after 10 seconds), Micaiah (heals the summoner) and Bubbles (shoots out vibrations that cause the broken shield confusion state)
-Not all of the old assist trophies return. Such examples are Little Mac, Waluigi and Jill.
-There is a stage based on Guar Plains from Xenoblade
Now I will explain some info on the three new characters.
Bowser Jr. is a small target with medium weight (a little less than Mario). He uses his paintbrush in battle. His stage entry is appearing from an M in the floor. His down special move is creating paint from his brush. It is a charging move. The longer you charge it, the more goop you make. Standing on the goop has an effect akin to Lip's Stick (a returning item), and slows down your movement. His final Smash is the Koopa Clown Car, where he goes into his Clown Car (complete with the boxing fists). Pressing A releases a fist. Pressing B releases a bomb. The rest of his moveset is currently being worked on.
King K Rool, as expected, is of large height and weight. He is still lighter than Bowser though. His moveset is currently also in the works, but Sakurai is wanting to use abilities from all four of his bossfights (DKC1, DKC2, DKC3 and DK64).
Palutena, a tall and suprisingly heavy female character, also has a moveset in the works. Her moveset is expecting to involve the use of summonable centurions, as well as light projectiles. There has been no work made on her final smash, but there has been discussion about integrating the Chaos Kin.
I am open to sharing more info with you should anything be requested. As this account is considered a new user, I cannot frequently provide content. However, I will answer all questions asked as I am able to (if I have enough daily posts. I will tell you if I do not know the answer to your question).
"I'm not in any position where I know what the pic of the day is. Sakurai is the one who decides it without consulting anyone, so I find out when the rest of the world finds out.
We spend time on our weekends discussing what will be in the daily pics just like you guys. We've been wanting to see Yoshi confirmed for weeks now, as he looks really cool. I guess Sakurai is holding out on him to wait for Yoshi's New Island.
We're also almost done the Ice Climbers. 3DS problems were annoying with Nana's AI, but we are very close to getting it perfect. When they are done, all of the Melee veterans, sans Mewtwo and Roy, will be finalized. I don't know what character he plans on working on next. I'm personally hoping for Wario, and that he'll include more moves from Wario Land, like the shoulder charge, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
As for questioning Roy, we do have scouts on the internet that do look at what fans want, and Roy is requested a lot, which is why Sakurai wants to bring him back. We've already got permission from Intelligent Systems to use him, and will be using his Awakening design.
Also forgot to mention that Shulk is an AT. We haven't decided on what effects he will do, as we're still working on the model."
The roster has been finalized in terms of "These are the only characters who are being considered for Smash 4". We're hoping to get all of the characters done soon. Beyond the three newcomers and Roy, all we have left to work on are Wario and Wolf, so we're farther along than I might have made it seem.
I wasn't on the development team for Brawl, so I'm afraid I can't provide much context. But from what I heard from my colleagues, the Brawl roster was done so quickly to work on the Adventure mode. But they still hadn't finished Wolf, Jigglypuff or Toon Link at the time, and obviously Sonic wasn't included.
Sakurai has been prioritizing veterans over newcomers, as he doesn't want any fans to be disappointed with any cuts. He only worked on Villager, Mega Man and Wii Fit Trainer to show off some of the new cast at E3, but they weren't done until all of the first twelve characters were done. Does this make sense and answer your question? If not, ask where you'd like specifications.
What decision process went into choosing those three newcomers, plus Mewtwo/Roy?
Mewtwo and Roy were chosen due to an overwhelming amount of support here in Japan for their return, plus they are really popular in other areas of the world as well. He wanted to bring back Doctor Mario, but once we pitched ideas to him about how to develop Bowser Jr. (I work in concept by the way. We're the guys who make the ideas and pitch them to Sakurai), he didn't want to over saturate the Mario characters. We haven't discussed the prospect of DLC characters yet, but if we did, I'd imagine Doctor Mario, and Pichu, would be one, as they each have their fans who want them back in Smash, though they are smaller than Mewtwo and Roy.
As for the other three newcomers, we did bring a lot of ideas to Sakurai, such as Ridley, Little Mac, Takamaru, Chrom (which was surprisingly turned down quickly), Andy, Shulk, Lip, Black Shadow and Starfy. He liked the idea of Bowser Jr. as the painting was something really unique that made him stick out. It wasn't much of a popularity decision, but the kid does have a respectable fanbase in Japan, Europe and the Americas.
King K. Rool was chosen mostly due to popularity reasons. His name was among the most common in all of the places we visited, according to the scouts. He also felt that K. Rool was s sharp contrast to the other characters, and can be partially explained as the reason Bowser was changed.
Palutena was chosen because she's another popular character. I think a lot of the time, people think that we don't listen to our fans, but we really do. Her inclusion also helps bring Sakurai's revival of Kid Icarus to a close. He did want to include her in Brawl, but was unsure of what direction to take with her. Uprising fleshed her out and she was among the first choices Sakurai made (alongside Villager).
Why is there no retro character when Sakurai mentioned wanting to bring one back in an interview?
I honestly have no idea. We did bring up several ideas, such as Bubbles, Mach Rider, Little Mac, Takamaru and Balloon Fighter. We even brought up DK Junior! We've learned not to question Sakurai, as the long work days and his arm are making him growingly irritable. He really likes his older characters, so I'm as surprised as you are about not including one. Maybe he is including one without consulting us on it, which wouldn't be the first time. Or maybe he wants to make a new Ice Climber game.
Apologies for making you wait so long. Apparently new posters can post a maximum 3 posts per hour. I thought it was just the 10 per 24 hours rule.
Working with Sakurai wasn't the opportunity I was hoping it would be, as he really seemed like such a nice guy from all the interviews. But I'm leaving Sora after this game is done and heading back home to the US and most likely go back to school, which is why I'm okay with being "relieved of my duties" pre-release.
As for why other characters were not chosen:
- Chrom was shot down due to looking too much like Marth. This also went for Lucina as well. His explanation was that characters in a fighting game like Smash Bros. need to stand out from the others, as getting confused who your character is can wreck the match for you.
- We initially planned to include Little Mac, but changed our minds when coming up with concept ideas for him, as he was very one dimensional.
- I don't mean to feed the "too big" crowd by saying this, but Ridley did have programming problems. He is a very time consuming character due to all of his parts (wings, tail, head and claws), and we felt that by choosing not to go ahead with Ridley, we could spend more time working on other characters. We didn't want to copy Charizard's animations as Sakurai has really high standards for this game.
- When Sakurai chooses his "retro" characters (Pit and Ice Climbers), as we found out, he only wants to choose characters who are international. Despite his appearance in Samurai Warriors 3, and a cameo in Nintendo Land, Sakurai felt he was still locked to Japan and denied him.
I didn't say spring release. Q2 implies April to June. And it's looking moreso like it'll be June.
All of the characters will be done by the end of February. We'll be finalizing everything in March, and then getting ready to release it.
Other rumor from GameFaqs. What a surprise!
Hello. I am a member of the Sora team
so................. Sakurai himself?
That's some terrible fanfic.Other rumor from GameFaqs. What a surprise!
DICKS AHOY
Banned
so what about ike in brawl- Chrom was shot down due to looking too much like Marth. This also went for Lucina as well. His explanation was that characters in a fighting game like Smash Bros. need to stand out from the others, as getting confused who your character is can wreck the match for you.
Not to mention Smash has had Japanese only characters before, so that logic being applied as to why Takamaru was passed makes no sense.
Only thing I like about this rumor is that it has K. Rool and Palutena.
That's some terrible fanfic.
It's got a well developed character though. I'm very impressed they didn't break halfway through like they usually tend to.
Gets a bit overbearing at the end, though. I give it a B-.
The only people who think Dark Samus is an uninspired choice are the ones who haven't played the Metroid Prime trilogy. Which would probably include Sakurai.I know she seems like an uninspired choice at first glance, but there's actually a lot of cool stuff you could do with Dark Samus as a unique character, she's not literally a reskin like dark Link or dark Pit.
You're generous.It's got a well developed character though. I'm very impressed they didn't break halfway through like they usually tend to.
Gets a bit overbearing at the end, though. I give it a B-.
Immaculate
Banned
isnt sora closed down?
edit:wait im thinking of project sora
edit:wait im thinking of project sora
Other rumor from GameFaqs. What a surprise!
I must commend fakers for the lengths they go through.
Also...chrom looks nothing like marth...
laidbackHERO
Banned
so what about ike in brawl
He looks nothing like Marth. Literally blue hair is the only similarity. Regardless the rumor sounds like nonsense
Ike better still be in the game or I'm coming for Sakurai
theprodigy
Member
who's ready for nothing
DICKS AHOY
Banned
He's obviously played at least an hour of the first Metroid Prime if Brawl is anything to go off at least.The only people who think Dark Samus is an uninspired choice are the ones who haven't played the Metroid Prime trilogy. Which would probably include Sakurai.
isnt sora closed down?
edit:wait im thinking of project sora
I believe Project Sora is done, but Sora itself is still Sakurai's studio.
Edit: you got it.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
not sakurai's fault you don't appreciate gold-plated crocodile moobsSix newcomers and one is King K. Rool, lol wut
I'd say he literally played only the first hour of the first Metroid Prime if Brawl is anything to go off.He's obviously played at least an hour of the first Metroid Prime if Brawl is anything to go off at least.
That's the only possible explanation for why we didn't get Phendrana Drifts. ;_;
That's the only possible explanation for why we didn't get Phendrana Drifts. ;_;
But if we gave Metroid the ice level, what would Ice Climbers do?
Instead of discussing Samus in high heels I pose a question:
What three Smash characters would most benefit from high heels?
1. Kirby
2. Fox
3. Sheik
Burning Justice
the superior princess
...He obviously has to consult the localization team in advance, otherwise who would translate his Miiverse posts?Other rumor from GameFaqs. What a surprise!
I'm not in any position where I know what the pic of the day is. Sakurai is the one who decides it without consulting anyone, so I find out when the rest of the world finds out.
Six newcomers and one is King K. Rool, lol wut
I know this is likely a fake but it makes me want to flip some tables. lol