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Finally getting to play Tearaway and i've been smiling non-stop during my first hour, just so charming and fun. Every time I see myself in the sun im looking happy and like a big kid, majestic.

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About two weeks ago I had to choose between Sly Cooper Vita bundle or Tearaway Vita Bundle. I got Sly Bundle, now I feel like:
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Everyone is like "Tearaway is the best Vita game!". I'm still waiting to get Persona 4 golden from amazon and now I wanna order Tearaway too.
Too many good games, I guess that's a good thing.
 
About two weeks ago I had to choose between Sly Cooper Vita bundle or Tearaway Vita Bundle. I got Sly Bundle, now I feel like:
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Everyone is like "Tearaway is the best Vita game!". I'm still waiting to get Persona 4 golden from amazon and now I wanna order Tearaway too.
Too many good games, I guess that's a good thing.

At least you are owing up to your mistakes. Sly was boring, but Tearaway & Persona are fantastic
Rogue Legacy and Minecraft will be MINE the minute they launch.
Ditto
 
I really enjoyed Sly 4. Good game and especially The Murry were entertaining. Episode 2 was kinda boring, but then, I was laughing out during the whole Episode 3. :)
And Tearaway is cheap anyways, so I don't think thejpfin have made a mistake.

I'm hearing Persona 4 Golden is about to get on PS+ as a freebie, but it's an amazing game (opinion based on the PS2 version), so the moment there is a sale for the physical copy in EU, I'll grab it instantly. Just for the collection.
 
To be fair, anyone that is paying attention to market trends could have easily seen all of those games not lighting up the sales charts from a mile away. That doesn't necessarily mean they bombed though. Well I suppose if you define bombing as merely not selling a crap ton of copies the did, but my personal definition of a bomb is that they failed to meet up to the logical expectations of a company given how much they invested into the game. And with all of those games it's quite possible that they aren't remotely bombs. None of those games likely had a huge budget, thus they don't need huge sales to recoup the costs. I mean Nis games routinely sell under 100k copies and they are doing just fine as it makes more than enough revenue for them. (does remind me of another thing that bothers me on forums, the general idea that any game that doesn't sell a million copies is a failure)

Well, Kamiya has said W101 was more expensive than Bayonetta, and has underperformed everywhere. I don't know about Pupeteer, but in Tearaway case it has sold 14.000 units in US (I was expecting, around 50.000 in the worst case, sales could be near this number with digital), almost nothing in Japan (I wasn't expecting anything different, LBP sells like shit there too). The only place where it has had a fairly decent chance to do "ok" is in Europe.

And the main point is that my "sadness" if you want to call it that way is not completely logical. Add to those news that I was kinda upset because my father has lost my Tales of Xillia copy (which costed my 55 euros) because he just felt lazy and didn't put the disc in its fucking case.

Still, right now I don't really care. I love the game, I appreciate those guys that has spent their time working on it and I'll recommend to every friend I have that wants a Vita. I was never expecting CoD numbers.

Switch to Plan B: Learn Japanese.

Yes, I've been thinking about that for a while but... you know. I kinda felt that I needed a decent English level (because it's necesary, especially when you live in a country with a 50% unemployment rate for young people) before learning a language just because I like JRPGs.

Now that I've finished, I'm totally doing it so I can play the definitive version of Tales of Vesperia... in 5 years xD
 
I really enjoyed Sly 4. Good game and especially The Murry were entertaining. Episode 2 was kinda boring, but then, I was laughing out during the whole Episode 3. :)
And Tearaway is cheap anyways, so I don't think thejpfin have made a mistake.

I'm hearing Persona 4 Golden is about to get on PS+ as a freebie, but it's an amazing game (opinion based on the PS2 version), so the moment there is a sale for the physical copy in EU, I'll grab it instantly. Just for the collection.

Doubt Persona will be a PS+ freebie, they probably meant that it would go on sale
 
I really enjoyed Sly 4. Good game and especially The Murry were entertaining. Episode 2 was kinda boring, but then, I was laughing out during the whole Episode 3. :)
And Tearaway is cheap anyways, so I don't think thejpfin have made a mistake.

I'm hearing Persona 4 Golden is about to get on PS+ as a freebie, but it's an amazing game (opinion based on the PS2 version), so the moment there is a sale for the physical copy in EU, I'll grab it instantly. Just for the collection.

Wait is there any truth to this? Source or link?
 
Now that UMVC3 will be delisted, I am playing it again, but goddamn I'm rusty. It's kinda sad that one of the best selling vita games is going away.
 
About two weeks ago I had to choose between Sly Cooper Vita bundle or Tearaway Vita Bundle. I got Sly Bundle, now I feel like:
NceQk.gif


Everyone is like "Tearaway is the best Vita game!". I'm still waiting to get Persona 4 golden from amazon and now I wanna order Tearaway too.
Too many good games, I guess that's a good thing.

Hey Sly 4 is a fun stealth game, not as memorable as the rest of the series but still enjoyable, even on vita.
You should have bought Tearaway though

It depends on your degree of tolerance for faults(or at least certain ones), most of the people looking at VK3 see only its faults, since the start i saw the good it could gave to me(but TBH i played VK2 so in part i already knew what to expect)

For me it was totally worth the 29€ i spent, IIRC i played exclusively to it for almost 80 hours, if you can tolerate its faults and unusual choices it can be extremely addictive imo.

Sadly i can't suggest it with light heart, especially with today's gamers that can be extremely squeamish and can blindly hate a good game for a single really small fault.

Maybe a good idea is to wait for the gold edition(if it will be localized) that at least promise to shorten loading times.

Fights? On the field there are 2 kind of enemies:

-monsters(really few types): they are all on the field
-parties(the focus of the game): only the leader is on the field, a party is composed of unique characters with their own race, class, abilities etc exactly like your party.

Enemies don't usually attack you, you need to attack them to start a fight, at this point appear a circle that limits the battlefield and all the members of the parties appear, you can control any character of your party, whatever the result fights always lasts less than a minute.

It really is addictive. Game is messy but dang fun once you get into the groove of things. Cant believe I've hunted more than 60 rabbit monsters for easy cash. Its like a casual JRPG or something.
 
If Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom is going away why the hell isn't there a fire sale to milk it as much as possible? Ridiculous. Was hoping it would drop to $10 again.
 

There was a post from a gafer, who linked to a tweet, saying that SCEE couldn't arrange sales for Atlus games, including Dragon's Crown and Persona 4 Golden. I may be mistaken, but it wasn't referring only for the 12deal sales.
And I can't find that post/tweet, because it was discussed in 3 different threads here yesterday, but I will look for it some more.

Either way, the are some plans for P4G here in EU, be it a sale or ps+ freebie. Or at least, that is what Sony teased. :)
 
About two weeks ago I had to choose between Sly Cooper Vita bundle or Tearaway Vita Bundle. I got Sly Bundle, now I feel like:
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Yeah, you did (sadly). I know a lot of people that liked the new Sly Cooper, but I just didn't think it was all that great and it is nowhere as good as Tearaway
 
Wow, that "cancel Vita development" thread is rough. Has Mort or anyone else confirmed that we'll be getting more first-party support next year?
 
I stopped buying indie games on pc to wait for their vita versions!

Me too, and in some cases double dipped on ones I already had. I really hope Risk of Rain gets ported over, that game is siiiiick,

if these indie were day and date and Vita your decision might sound right.

but Vita getting these ports way too late ( 2 to 3 years) and get them on full price while they became super super on other platforms.

there is absolutely no advantage on waiting to get them on Vita.
 
if these indie were day and date and Vita your decision might sound right.

but Vita getting these ports way too late ( 2 to 3 years) and get them on full price while they became super super on other platforms.

there is absolutely no advantage on waiting to get them on Vita.

You can play them on a vita, that's the advantage
 
if these indie were day and date and Vita your decision might sound right.

but Vita getting these ports way too late ( 2 to 3 years) and get them on full price while they became super super on other platforms.

there is absolutely no advantage on waiting to get them on Vita.

We have gone from getting the greatest hits of indie ports a few months ago, but the time between the indie releases on PC to steam has started to be a whole lot shorter.

Also, I really really LOVE playing those indie titles on my Vita, so much that I don't really care about their releases on PC anymore. A lot of them, even Spelunky with the slowdown on some parts just feels amazing on it. I don't really mind waiting a few months for a few of them, to be honest.
 
if these indie were day and date and Vita your decision might sound right.

but Vita getting these ports way too late ( 2 to 3 years) and get them on full price while they became super super on other platforms.

there is absolutely no advantage on waiting to get them on Vita.

You can play them on a portable. That might not matter to many, but it's certainly an advantage. And I'm not sure where you are getting 2 to 3 years from.
 
Wow, that "cancel Vita development" thread is rough. Has Mort or anyone else confirmed that we'll be getting more first-party support next year?
Nope. It'll probably be quiet on the Vita front anyway since Sony will want to be pushing PS4 now.

Last Vita related news from Mort was months ago, he said he heard there is/might be a Vita inFamous title, but he knows nothing else about it.
 
You can play them on a vita, that's the advantage

You can play them on a portable. That might not matter to many, but it's certainly an advantage. And I'm not sure where you are getting 2 to 3 years from.

been portable is not an excuse really now that PC have da Tank :p

We have gone from getting the greatest hits of indie ports a few months ago, but the time between the indie releases on PC to steam has started to be a whole lot shorter.

Also, I really really LOVE playing those indie titles on my Vita, so much that I don't really care about their releases on PC anymore. A lot of them, even Spelunky with the slowdown on some parts just feels amazing on it. I don't really mind waiting a few months for a few of them, to be honest.

It's ok if you prefer Vita and willing to play inferior ports on it instead of superior and cheaper version. I'm just saying that going logical there is no benefit or real advantage here (Late+full price+inferior ports most of the time).

Sony need to work with indie more to make indie on Vita more appealing (3 months late is ok) they way they are right now is not good.
 
if these indie were day and date and Vita your decision might sound right.

but Vita getting these ports way too late ( 2 to 3 years) and get them on full price while they became super super on other platforms.

there is absolutely no advantage on waiting to get them on Vita.

playing games on vita >>> playing them on a lolcomputer

why are you still here, btw? didn't you say you would sell your vita after tearaway?
 
been portable is not an excuse really now that PC have da Tank :p

Well, indeed it is. I own a decent laptop that probably could play any indie games on it, but the thing is slating out your laptop just because you want to play while waiting something isn't exactly convenient, Not counting the heat it makes even when I'm just playing Victoria 2 lol

But I agree on the price though. They should have make it cheaper for late port
 
Wow, that "cancel Vita development" thread is rough. Has Mort or anyone else confirmed that we'll be getting more first-party support next year?

I think famousmortimer said we'd get an Infamous game next year. I hope it's a Second Son prequel / sidestory. If the Vita game spoils Second Son content, I may wait until I've played the PS4 game (and I don't know when i'm picking it up).

Which in turn is almost certainly referring to the 12 Days of Christmas sale. There's pretty much no way NISA is going to be permitted to let Atlus' most popular PSVita game on PS+, especially considering it's not available everywhere in SCEE's territory.

Persona 4 Golden won't be on PS+ anytime soon. It's kinda an evergreen title, a lot of people (well, "lot" in Vita metric) buys the game kinda soon. The game won't be in the IGC until it stops selling completely.
 
I know the physical vs digital discussion has been beaten to death on GAF, but it's mostly centered on preference or the size of memory cards.

I'm a relatively new Vita owner and I'm thinking about getting serious about collecting physical copies of all the best and niche titles because I have a feeling there will be a collectibility factor in play in a few years (plus saving memory space).

We have a machine that:
-Isn't lighting the world on fire in terms of sales
-Yet has a pretty damn cool library in many ways
-Had a very devoted, almost cult-like love from people who do own and play it
-Has day and date digital games so physical copies sell even less than under-performing platforms of the past
-Therefore has very cheap physical games right now because retailers percieve no one wants them (ie Tearaway for $20)

Doesn't that all seem to point to at least a decent collectibility factor in the future? Of course digital availability means no games will ever be truly "hard to get" but physical carts could go up in value in the years to come. To be clear - I'm not looking at this as some big investment to make money off of and I do not collect sealed copies of games. I just like owning cool shit that means something to the medium.

What do you think VitaGAF?
 
if these indie were day and date and Vita your decision might sound right.

but Vita getting these ports way too late ( 2 to 3 years) and get them on full price while they became super super on other platforms.

there is absolutely no advantage on waiting to get them on Vita.

But Vita is the system I prefer to play them on. The system is much more comfortable for me to hold than a PS3/X360/KB+M setup, and I don't mind waiting an extra few months for a Vita port because I have plenty of games to play in the meantime. Also remember that Sony only started pushing indie games recently so it has some catching up to do. I have a feeling that we will see simultaneous releases on the more prominent indie games in the future.

It's ok if you prefer Vita and willing to play inferior ports on it instead of superior and cheaper version. I'm just saying that going logical there is no benefit or real advantage here (Late+full price+inferior ports most of the time).

Sony need to work with indie more to make indie on Vita more appealing (3 months late is ok) they way they are right now is not good.

What indie ports do you consider inferior? Hotline Miami IMO is best played on Vita. Spelunky is also best played on Vita (unless you want to co-op). Thomas Was Alone, Sine Mora, Stealth Bastard are a few more that all play extremely well on Vita.
 
But Vita is the system I prefer to play them on. The system is much more comfortable for me to hold than a PS3/X360/KB+M setup, and I don't mind waiting an extra few months for a Vita port because I have plenty of games to play in the meantime. Also remember that Sony only started pushing indie games recently so it has some catching up to do. I have a feeling that we will see simultaneous releases on the more prominent indie games in the future.



What indie ports do you consider inferior? Hotline Miami IMO is best played on Vita. Spelunky is also best played on Vita (unless you want to co-op). Thomas Was Alone, Sine Mora, Stealth Bastard are a few more that all play extremely well on Vita.

Yep, I owned Terraria, Spelunky, Hotline Miami on PC agggggeees ago through cheap indie sales and barely ever touched them. On vita, it's a completely different story. So convenient, so suitable. Just perfect for it. Okay they are slightly too pricey some of them. But they really are fantastic on Vita. Absolutely the best place for them for me.
 
What indie ports do you consider inferior? Hotline Miami IMO is best played on Vita. Spelunky is also best played on Vita (unless you want to co-op). Thomas Was Alone, Sine Mora, Stealth Bastard are a few more that all play extremely well on Vita.

Well, the price is the problem though.
With that Indie Humble Bundle around, and occasional Steam Sales, you could buy two or even four games with same amount of one game on Vita.
Competing with Steam sales is nigh impossible, but they need lower price especially for late port.
 
Well, the price is the problem though.
With that Indie Humble Bundle around, and occasional Steam Sales, you could buy two or even four games with same amount of one game on Vita.
Competing with Steam sales is nigh impossible, but they need lower price especially for late port.

Not arguing about there being a premium involved, just on the quality of the ports.
SEN digital store is borderline offensive when it comes to pricing, especially in Australia. But because I enjoy the Vita as much as I do I sacrifice a little more of my wallet to enjoy the game in the best way I find possible. I also feel that PS+ makes up for lack of sales with free top tier games every month.

Speaking of, I think it's time for a Humble Vita Bundle!
 
Well, the price is the problem though.
With that Indie Humble Bundle around, and occasional Steam Sales, you could buy two or even four games with same amount of one game on Vita.
Competing with Steam sales is nigh impossible, but they need lower price especially for late port.

Due to the nature of consoles, consoles will never compete with Steam prices. I got Tomb Raider 2013 for <$15 already and it's been on sale for <$10. Console versions will never hit those prices. You will never see a charity bundle for PS3 or 360 or 3DS or Vita. If you want to worry about sales, build a gaming PC and you'll be rolling in them. If you want to play the games on your Vita? Expect to pay the normal price unless you wait for a PS+ discount which may or may not come (free Hotline Miami, Sine Mora [also has been on sale], 3.75 Spelunky, etc.)

The biggest problem, I think, that lines up with what you're saying, is when a port comes out and it charges an extra premium for being on the platform. Sine Mora, Hotline Miami, Spelunky -- I believe they're all priced at the same cost as the Steam version. The problem is with games like Terraria where the platform is almost forgotten and then when the port does arrive it costs MORE than the asking price on Steam and other comparable platforms.
 
Speaking of, I think it's time for a Humble Vita Bundle!
Lol is that even possible?
Due to the nature of consoles, consoles will never compete with Steam prices. I got Tomb Raider 2013 for <$15 already and it's been on sale for <$10. Console versions will never hit those prices. You will never see a charity bundle for PS3 or 360 or 3DS or Vita. If you want to worry about sales, build a gaming PC and you'll be rolling in them. If you want to play the games on your Vita? Expect to pay the normal price unless you wait for a PS+ discount which may or may not come (free Hotline Miami, Sine Mora [also has been on sale], 3.75 Spelunky, etc.)

The biggest problem, I think, that lines up with what you're saying, is when a port comes out and it charges an extra premium for being on the platform. Sine Mora, Hotline Miami, Spelunky -- I believe they're all priced at the same cost as the Steam version. The problem is with games like Terraria where the platform is almost forgotten and then when the port does arrive it costs MORE than the asking price on Steam and other comparable platforms.
Yeah, no matter how much Sony want to chase the digital dream they long sought since PSP GO, they can't achieve it unless they can discount AAA games on their digital store to ridiculous price. Retailer is what stopped them from doing that. But let put that for other day talk since the prices I'm talking about is indie game price, not AAA title.

Indie titles always come as digital exclusives, which mean there is absolutely nothing from stopping Sony to cut the price to crazy amount. Spelunky being sold at 3.75 is basicaly what I hoped for if Vita really wished to be indies handheld. That Terraria situation is very baffling and counter-productive on this strategy. What makes them to costed it more compared to other platform though since it doesn't have any exclusivity on Vita.
 
if these indie were day and date and Vita your decision might sound right.

but Vita getting these ports way too late ( 2 to 3 years) and get them on full price while they became super super on other platforms.

there is absolutely no advantage on waiting to get them on Vita.

I understand what you say and i agree with your analysis, vita gets indie ports too late and they are too pricey, but for many of us is still worth waiting for a vita version for many reasons.
We waited for long, we'll wait a little longer for a sale or for ps+ lol.

About sony's late ports instead they are a totally shame:
1)sony itself should do exclusives or multis at least, not late ports.
2)what's worse is that some of those ports are totally shit, i mean i can even understand if a third party makes a bad port, but sony!?!?? Sony should show how easy and powerful vita is!

Sony should fire some heads at SCEA, should stop making ports instantly and using those money to fund first and third party exclusive vita games, no matter their sizes.
 
About two weeks ago I had to choose between Sly Cooper Vita bundle or Tearaway Vita Bundle. I got Sly Bundle, now I feel like:
NceQk.gif


Everyone is like "Tearaway is the best Vita game!". I'm still waiting to get Persona 4 golden from amazon and now I wanna order Tearaway too.
Too many good games, I guess that's a good thing.

i don't see the issue - you can still buy Tearaway and be left with two good games in your library

wow - amazon is selling the white and lime vita 2000 as an import, didn't expect that
 
I bought a vita about 2 months ago and I have to say that it's been fantastic. I also prefer to play all the indie games on vita instead of PC. It's perfect for them and I am finally devoting the time to them that they deserve. I hope we continue to get indie games because that would be enough for me to be satisfied with the system. There is so much content available on PSN already.

Edit: I don't mind paying a $15 price for a good game if it just got ported too. It took time and effort to make it and it's on the platform I prefer to play it on. Don't see the issue here. A $10-$12 difference doesn't matter if I buy it and actually play it. How many cheap steam games do I have that I never touch? A TON.
 
Doki Doki Universe seems a little sluggish on the Vita. I need to check out the PS3 version but it feels like it should run smoother than it does.
 
It depends on your degree of tolerance for faults(or at least certain ones), most of the people looking at VK3 see only its faults, since the start i saw the good it could gave to me(but TBH i played VK2 so in part i already knew what to expect)

For me it was totally worth the 29€ i spent, IIRC i played exclusively to it for almost 80 hours, if you can tolerate its faults and unusual choices it can be extremely addictive imo.

Sadly i can't suggest it with light heart, especially with today's gamers that can be extremely squeamish and can blindly hate a good game for a single really small fault.

Maybe a good idea is to wait for the gold edition(if it will be localized) that at least promise to shorten loading times.

Fights? On the field there are 2 kind of enemies:

-monsters(really few types): they are all on the field
-parties(the focus of the game): only the leader is on the field, a party is composed of unique characters with their own race, class, abilities etc exactly like your party.

Enemies don't usually attack you, you need to attack them to start a fight, at this point appear a circle that limits the battlefield and all the members of the parties appear, you can control any character of your party, whatever the result fights always lasts less than a minute.

Sounds like I might like it, thanks for the impressions.
 
Due to the nature of consoles, consoles will never compete with Steam prices. I got Tomb Raider 2013 for <$15 already and it's been on sale for <$10. Console versions will never hit those prices. You will never see a charity bundle for PS3 or 360 or 3DS or Vita. If you want to worry about sales, build a gaming PC and you'll be rolling in them. If you want to play the games on your Vita? Expect to pay the normal price unless you wait for a PS+ discount which may or may not come (free Hotline Miami, Sine Mora [also has been on sale], 3.75 Spelunky, etc.)

But Tomb Raider is on sale for $13.49 atm D: https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/#!/en-us/cid=UP0082-NPUB31211_00-TRDIGITALEDITION
 
About two weeks ago I had to choose between Sly Cooper Vita bundle or Tearaway Vita Bundle. I got Sly Bundle, now I feel like:
NceQk.gif


Everyone is like "Tearaway is the best Vita game!". I'm still waiting to get Persona 4 golden from amazon and now I wanna order Tearaway too.
Too many good games, I guess that's a good thing.

Sly Cooper was great. Tearaway is amazing. I think you did fine. Just try and get Tearaway when you can. Or at least download the demo to see if it's your thing. I wasn't sold on Tearaway until I played it at E3, and then it became one of my most anticipated Vita games.
 
Kind of oldish but I haven't seen any posts about it here, and I just spotted it browsing the /v/ catalog.

Mages released a render of Ayumi's character model for Corpse Party Blood Drive. The first game's style is definitely returning, and since the character models are 3D, you can rotate the camera around to get a better look at the environment.



Source.
 
Wow, that "cancel Vita development" thread is rough. Has Mort or anyone else confirmed that we'll be getting more first-party support next year?

He's said the platform will never get the backing SCE will give to PS4, and that the only games he knows of are Infamous and a Ratchet & Clank. Given the retailer leaks pointing to R&C being a port, I can only imagine Infamous is something equally as unspectacular.
 
I know the physical vs digital discussion has been beaten to death on GAF, but it's mostly centered on preference or the size of memory cards.

I'm a relatively new Vita owner and I'm thinking about getting serious about collecting physical copies of all the best and niche titles because I have a feeling there will be a collectibility factor in play in a few years (plus saving memory space).

We have a machine that:
-Isn't lighting the world on fire in terms of sales
-Yet has a pretty damn cool library in many ways
-Had a very devoted, almost cult-like love from people who do own and play it
-Has day and date digital games so physical copies sell even less than under-performing platforms of the past
-Therefore has very cheap physical games right now because retailers percieve no one wants them (ie Tearaway for $20)

Doesn't that all seem to point to at least a decent collectibility factor in the future? Of course digital availability means no games will ever be truly "hard to get" but physical carts could go up in value in the years to come. To be clear - I'm not looking at this as some big investment to make money off of and I do not collect sealed copies of games. I just like owning cool shit that means something to the medium.

What do you think VitaGAF?

To be sure, a Tearaway cart will be quite rare in 20 years, but I think digital availability will hold down physical prices.

Once Sony shuts down Vita PSN stores though, who knows. Impossible to tell really. There are certain DS games that have shot up in price over the last few years.
 
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