Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS Thread 3: Ridley's Believe It or Not!

I would be shaking my head at a Dark Samus inclusion. Dark Samus isn't even all that interesting of a character in the game she/it's in, Ganondorf is the main villain of the series and further more I don't think he should have been a clone of C Falcon to begin with.

I don't know about "outrage" but I can't imagine many people being hyped for dark blue version of Samus.
I don't think anyone can vouch for being an interesting character in the Metroid series.

But if Dark Samus is so uninteresting, go with Metroid Prime. It's the final boss of one of the best games ever made and it has basically the same abilities anyway.

I think Metroid Prime's final form would work more as a boss than a playable character, but that's just me.
Prime's actually pretty small and could work constantly floating ala Mewtwo. It even has tentacles to hold onto items.

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea. Final Smash would of course be the giant face crab.
Anyways, Dark Samus wouldn't cause outrage at all and is not the equivalent of Cole and Evil Cole. It would be the equivalent of Toon Link and Link or Ganondorf and Captain Falcon.
That's only if Sakurai is astoundingly lazy... Like he was with Ganondorf.

So I think we can rest assured that Dark Samus will be a Captain Falcon clone.
 
Rushed Mario Kart 7 was part of the turnaround for the 3DS. A release of DKCR:TF, Mario kart 8, and Smash 4 would help the wiiu the way mario kart 7, super mario 3d land, and monster hunter 3u (japan) gave second life to the 3ds

not this shit again

I do think Q2 is possible (but not likely) but I don't really think they'll rush this game out of the door. It would not help the Wii U's situation at all if it ends up being a rushed product.

as opposed to....what exactly
 
Is he even married?

And fuck no at a rushed Smash Bros. Mario Kart 7 broke my heart already (whhhhhy no versus CPU mode).
This is Sakurai's waifu
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And fuck no at a rushed Smash Bros. Mario Kart 7 broke my heart already (whhhhhy no versus CPU mode).

Much as I miss it, MK7's lack of SP versus was most likely a deliberate decision since it works perfectly with CPU players in MP and probably had nothing to do with accelerated development.
 
Rushed Smash 4 is happening. Nintendo needs it in 2014 so bad.

Either that, or Sakurai is going to start working Melee overtime hours to get it done by the end of next year.
 
yeah as long as it isn't rushed then I'm all good

The whole Namco thing and the fact we've been getting more frequent updates is actually why I think it's possible for Q2. But I still feel holidays is far more likely, but we'll see!
The ironic thing about the namco deal is that its suppose to inspire more namco games on the wii U, namco hasent released a game on wiiU since launch.
 
releasing next year
365 days from now (I'm assuming a December launch)

is considered rushed? lol it'll be ready by then


source I'm Sakurai's cat

this is sakurai we're talking about here

dude takes forever with his games, they often have multiple delays, because he loves to add more and more and more content, even if it's not necessary. see: brawl and kid icarus
 
This is Sakurai's waifu

Hahaha.

Much as I miss it, MK7's lack of SP versus was most likely a deliberate decision since it works perfectly with CPU players in MP and probably had nothing to do with accelerated development.

I mean, it was still a good game and all that jazz, but I just wish it had more content ala Mario Kart DS. Online play was definitely a massive improvement, though.
 
I know how some of you guys feel about Dark Samus, but for the record design wise she isn't just a palette swapped Samus. She literally has a different look/body/design.


And I could see her movelist being epic. Even her animations would be awesome, floating around ala Mewtwo. Maybe a move where she shoots Phazon at you, or creates Phazon Metroids... the ideas are endless..

But Ridley should get first dibs at the villain role. And the size should have nothing to do with it. That whole "he's too big" argument doesn't hold water if Bowser could be a giant in Mario 64, and 4 times smaller in Melee, then the same could be done for Ridley,
ESPECIALLY considering his smaller size in the original appearance.

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Isn't Bowser a gaint in the Galaxy and
3D World
games, too?
 
I know how some of you guys feel about Dark Samus, but for the record design wise she isn't just a palette swapped Samus. She literally has a different look/body/design.



And I could see her movelist being epic. Even her animations would be awesome, floating around ala Mewtwo. Maybe a move where she shoots Phazon at you, or creates Phazon Metroids... the ideas are endless..

But Ridley should get first dibs at the villain role. And the size should have nothing to do with it. That whole "he's too big" argument doesn't hold water if Bowser could be a giant in Mario 64, and 4 times smaller in Melee, then the same could be done for Ridley,

Isn't Bowser a gaint in the Galaxy and
3D World
games, too?

Why do people keep pointing out 8-bit ridley? like seriously? 8-bit ridley, literally the only reason he looked like that was because of limitations, and plus compared to what he actually is suppose to look like, 8-bit ridley looked like crap, theres a reason why he never looked that size ever again. Stop trying to use that for comparisons.
Woah, seriously?
yup
 
Why do people keep pointing out 8-bit ridley? like seriously? 8-bit ridley, literally the only reason he looked like that was because of limitations, and plus compared to what he actually is suppose to look like, 8-bit ridley looked like crap, theres a reason why he never looked that size ever again. Stop trying to use that for comparisons.

yup
He looked pretty good in the Melee opening, although I would prefer him a bit larger than that.

I think a Bowser-size frame is fine. If Sakurai should take inspiration from anywhere for the move set, Marvel vs Capcom 2 Sentinel is a good place to start; fast aerial pressure with large normals, but not so great on defense.
Sakurai's wife is the one who designs the layout menu of his games, which is why they have that recognizable look to them
How long has she been designing them?

I thought Brawl was a significant step down from Melee and 64's menus. It looked too clean and sterile, like the Wii UI, and the options looked too big
like Ridley
 
The problem with Ridley seems to be his lankiness more than his size. His long neck and arms coupled with big ol wings make for a disjointed looking character. Still, i hope he makes it in.
 
He looked pretty good in the Melee opening, although I would prefer him a bit larger than that.

I think a Bowser-size frame is fine. If Sakurai should take inspiration from anywhere for the move set, Marvel vs Capcom 2 Sentinel is a good place to start; fast aerial pressure with large normals, but not so great on defense.

How long has she been designing them?

I thought Brawl was a significant step down from Melee and 64's menus. It looked too clean and sterile, like the Wii UI, and the options looked too big
like Ridley
I dont know how far back she has worked with him, but ive seen kirby games with the similar layout, and I wouldnt describe brawl's layout as "clean and sterile"
Nintendo doesn't care about the Prime series so I doubt Dark Samus would make it in.
>nintendo doesnt care about the prime series
>nintendo has 5 games under the prime name
>also has a metroid prime collection released.
 
I dont know how far back she has worked with him, but ive seen kirby games with the similar layout, and I wouldnt describe brawl's layout as "clean and sterile"
It feels like I'm looking at an Apple product.

>nintendo doesnt care about the prime series
>nintendo has 5 games under the prime name
>also has a metroid prime collection released.
Yeah, a more accurate statement would be Sakurai doesn't care about the Prime series. Nintendo loves Retro.

Passerby mention for Sylux as a possible Metroid rep in the case of no Ridley.
Sylux hasn't ever done anything though. I'm disappointed we'll probably never get resolution on why the hell Retro had him/her/it trailing Samus.
 
Sylux hasn't ever done anything though. I'm disappointed we'll probably never get resolution on why the hell Retro had him/her/it trailing Samus.

I used to have theories about some random disgruntled Federation soldier or maybe a special A.I. but not much is known outside of Cylosis and "it" hates the Federation and hates Samus for the sole purpose of her aiding the Federation which in turn has lead Sylux to stalking her.
 
Why do people keep pointing out 8-bit ridley? like seriously? 8-bit ridley, literally the only reason he looked like that was because of limitations, and plus compared to what he actually is suppose to look like, 8-bit ridley looked like crap, theres a reason why he never looked that size ever again. Stop trying to use that for comparisons.

Actually, my point is that Ridley can be whatever size he needs to be. Just like Bowser.
 
I would be shaking my head at a Dark Samus inclusion. Dark Samus isn't even all that interesting of a character in the game she/it's in, Ganondorf is the main villain of the series and further more I don't think he should have been a clone of C Falcon to begin with.

I don't know about "outrage" but I can't imagine many people being hyped for dark blue version of Samus.
I can definitely see people feeling indifferent towards it while others are happy with it.

I think its animations would be amazing like Jaeger said.
How long has she been designing them?

I thought Brawl was a significant step down from Melee and 64's menus. It looked too clean and sterile, like the Wii UI, and the options looked too big
like Ridley
Since Kirby Air Ride I think.

I would not call Brawl's UI sterile. It is clean just like Melee's and 64's, but those two are bland compared to Brawl's. Color adds "flavor" and "flair".
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Oh hey wow would you look at that, Ridley can be made to fit into the same size limitation as all the other sprites. gasp.
And you even made Ridley's head bigger than it should be and that didn't stop you from fitting it!
 
prime is cannon, they even have a timeline where they fit inbetween the games

I thought Other M fucked it up and Sakamoto said "fuck that" and made Prime non-canon. Not saying it should be not canon (in fact Other M should be the one that should be not canon) but I'm just placing the facts that I heard.
 
I thought Other M fucked it up and Sakamoto said "fuck that" and made Prime non-canon. Not saying it should be not canon (in fact Other M should be the one that should be not canon) but I'm just placing the facts that I heard.

Other M's story was developed around Prime not happening, and Sakamoto treats it as a dubiously canon sidestory. It's supposed to explain why things like Ridley's appearance are so devastating to Samus, since he's supposed to be exploded into bits after Super Metroid.

But since Other M rightly bombed, the future is bright for Prime.
 
Other M's story was developed around Prime not happening, and Sakamoto treats it as a dubiously canon sidestory. It's supposed to explain why things like Ridley's appearance are so devastating to Samus, since he's supposed to be exploded into bits after Super Metroid.

But since Other M rightly bombed, the future is bright for Prime.

I really hope so :(
 
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