MercilessMercer
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Isn't Ridley a space dragon that always flys around?
Behavior far more befitting of a a boss, not a playable character, imo.
Behavior far more befitting of a a boss, not a playable character, imo.
Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS Thread 3: Ridley's Believe It or Not!
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Neoriceisgood
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Jigglypuff-esque superior in the air mechanics. Problem solved.
He has a ton of moves, maybe they could give him a decent glide.
A more aerial or grapple based heavy character would be cool.
Ridley fights on the ground in Metroid Prime, Metroid Prime 3, and Metroid: Other M.
Play it with a friend and a good drink. It's not like you're going to be able to sell it for anything, so you might as well see if you enjoy it.I'm still sitting on my unplayed copy of Other M thanks to word of mouth.
True. I'm sitting on a 6-pack now.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
no the prime games are cannon, however they're more like sidestories than actual full-on story progressing ones, always have been, sakamoto never said they werent cannon, infact I think the article people got that from turned out to be mistranslated in some places, the prime games were designed to not interfere with the main story.
that's an interesting way to interpret other m's performance
thanks to Other M the Metroid franchise is dead as shit, there will not be a Wii U game. at most we'll get a 3DS 2D Metroid.
I guess I'm silly for actually believing the interviews where Retro said they had a choice and went with DKC instead.
what i dont get is why Metroid's representation is entirely Other M so far of all games in Smash Bros 4
its considered the black sheep of the franchise, no one asked for that shit
and why did they pick that level? thats the one with the infamous cutscene
like wow i thought this was a fanservice game, not a game that reminds me of you of the bad times of your favorite franchises
come on nintendo, this is so dumb lol
its considered the black sheep of the franchise, no one asked for that shit
and why did they pick that level? thats the one with the infamous cutscene
like wow i thought this was a fanservice game, not a game that reminds me of you of the bad times of your favorite franchises
come on nintendo, this is so dumb lol
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Also other M didnt bomb, its sitting at the 900,000s right now, one of the lower selling metroid games but it didnt bomb, also people who think other M "killed" the metroid franchise are naive.
didnt it get a price drop fairly quickly? i would imagine a lot of the sames came from that
and it likely sold well below expectations, i mean a metroid game not being even a million seller lol
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
that level had the "infamous" cutscene, but people also say its one of the best boss fights in the game, and they genuinely enjoy the area
It was a bomb by Nintendo's own admission.
MercilessMercer
Member
So turn Ridley into a joke character?
Just kidding, but honestly, it just sounds annoying. You try to hit Ridley, but he just runs away. You DO hit him, then he can just fly right back, without any repercussions. And since he would obviously be a heavy-type character, it would be incredibly hard to knock him out of the park. I think he's better off as a boss.
Same as above, but giving him grapples makes his playstyle sound even more bothersome.
"Oh, trying to hit me? Oh no, I'll fly off, which leaves ya open, and then I'll just chuck ya off stage! Fun, right?"
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
that is correct, but im sure it didnt sell "well below" expectations all the metroid prime games were million sellers(actually I think prime 2 is sitting in the 900,000s aswell but im not sure) but they were literally just million sellers, they stay in just 1 million, every metroid game except the first one I believe are either 1 million+ or 900,000+
Other M was one of the few nintendo titles i know that got a steep price drop
i dont think the game is even close to being successful if it even managed to do that as a nintendo game
also according to wikipedia:
"In the United Kingdom, the game failed to make the top 10 and placed 12th in its first week.[93] By November 2010, Other M had yet to sell a "half a million" units in the United States, far below Nintendo's expectations"
Maybe the Pirate Homeworld, Phaaze, or
Sanctuary Fortress 
In terms of Samus alts, I'd really like to see her in the PED suit,
75% corruption.
tintin1029
Member
It's not that it reminds me of that infamous cutscene, but it reminds me that Other M exists.
MercilessMercer
Member
Skytown, obviously.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
A pinball table for SSB3DS, obviously.
I've been rooting for Sanctuary Fortress since day one. It's easily one of the best levels in the trilogy, and ironically comes from the game I felt was fairly dull in terms of environments all up.
RealDeadOne
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The Metroid stage in the 3DS really should be SR388, Metroid II doesn't get nearly enough attention.
It'll probably be something from Fusion though, assuming Metroid gets a 3DS exclusive stage at all.
It'll probably be something from Fusion though, assuming Metroid gets a 3DS exclusive stage at all.
Troubled Bat
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Oh hey wow would you look at that, Ridley can be made to fit into the same size limitation as all the other sprites. gasp.
Omigash. *0* This is so... So.. T-T
NO. Just like that Mewtwo avatar!
I has the avatar list.
Oh hey wow would you look at that, Ridley can be made to fit into the same size limitation as all the other sprites. gasp.
Ice would have wanted this lol.
spyroflame0487
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"Today I would like to show you a picture of my cat. It looks so real! Tell me that doesn't bring a smile to your face."
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
I don't see why anyone would want a rushed Smash. It may mean less characters, less stages, less items and definitely less polish. I don't want that. The Wii U is in trouble, but making Smash a sacrificial lamb will not appease the Gods.
Ridley's extensive recovery options would be balanced by the fact he's so huge that he'd be a big target and quickly sustain quite a bit of damage anyways.
My biggest gripe seems to be that they are going with Other M Samus because that design was from the latest game. However in Brawl they never did gave Samus the superior Prime design and instead went with the Super Metroid design.
I can't even help but think some of the Brawl Metroid Prime content was an afterthought, because hey westerners liked those games.
I can't even help but think some of the Brawl Metroid Prime content was an afterthought, because hey westerners liked those games.
I never thought of handheld Metroid levels, but damn, SR388 would give me the willies, especially if it were in the original black and white.
I think the Brawl Metroid Prime content was an afterthought. Consider that the only signs of the series outside of trophies and stickers are Frigate Orpheon (The tutorial level of the first Prime), Meta Ridley (Seen in the tutorial), and the Dark Suit (Some intern probably saw it on some promotional artwork for Echoes).
But you don't understand, Ridley would be overpowered because he's too big to fail.
Song of the Turtle
Member
Oh hey wow would you look at that, Ridley can be made to fit into the same size limitation as all the other sprites. gasp.
Beautiful.
But what's the problem with Dark Samus? Its name is kinda dumb (its the Metroid Prime after all...) but the battles were awesome! And then there's this animalistic and intimidating aura about it. Simply amazing.
MercilessMercer
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I loved the Metroid Prime stage in Brawl, but I do agree that Metroid Prime is not getting enough love.
Yes, but in one v. ones he'd be ridiculously overpowered. How do you balance that?
He'd be a big target, easier to spike and hit with move's sweet spots. And stuff like Jiggly's rest.
Also they could make him really slow on the ground, so he'd need to be like Jigglypuff and have to be aerial to get the most out of his moves.
Have we returned to the how can we shoe horn Ridley into Smash Bros again topic?
What
Sylux
Gandraya
Rundas
Ghor
Weavel
Noxus
Trace
Are all literally sitting there in the Metroid vault all with viable movesets and all interesting. I'm not buying that they are too obscure to use line either. How many people who aren't seriously into gaming could tell you what exact game Lucas is from or who the Ice Climbers were or who Pit was before their announcement.
Ignoring all of those Dark Samus is still a better option than Ridley, her movepool is wider and you wouldn't have to deform her in order to make her viable. Ridley instead is better as a boss and should remain as one although the lack of Subspace could be the death of Boss Battles as a whole
Considering that Sakurai has been using Other M for the Metroid references so far does anyone who is a fan of Metroid want this thing (That's still significantly larger than Samus) as Ridley?
http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/_...arge_Geothermal_Power_Plant_Pyrosphere_HD.jpg
Or this thing as Ridley (One of the only 2 Incarnations that is not larger than Samus)?
http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100909080117/metroid/images/6/65/Adolescent_Ridley.jpg
Also in regards to Bowser and Mario, their size difference is still shown fairly clearly in Smash Bros and the Mario series is in no way like the Metroid series. Wildly varying size within the series can be easily overlooked or attributed to Magikoopa or Bowser being Bowser. You can't apply that to Metroid and it's clearly more serious and somewhat realistic tone, Ridley has had a fairly consistent size in relation to Samus. Samus is already one of the tallest characters in the game, doing that size difference justice introduces far too many issues as opposed to using characters that are already somewhat viable.
What
Sylux
Gandraya
Rundas
Ghor
Weavel
Noxus
Trace
Are all literally sitting there in the Metroid vault all with viable movesets and all interesting. I'm not buying that they are too obscure to use line either. How many people who aren't seriously into gaming could tell you what exact game Lucas is from or who the Ice Climbers were or who Pit was before their announcement.
Ignoring all of those Dark Samus is still a better option than Ridley, her movepool is wider and you wouldn't have to deform her in order to make her viable. Ridley instead is better as a boss and should remain as one although the lack of Subspace could be the death of Boss Battles as a whole
Considering that Sakurai has been using Other M for the Metroid references so far does anyone who is a fan of Metroid want this thing (That's still significantly larger than Samus) as Ridley?
http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/_...arge_Geothermal_Power_Plant_Pyrosphere_HD.jpg
Or this thing as Ridley (One of the only 2 Incarnations that is not larger than Samus)?
http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100909080117/metroid/images/6/65/Adolescent_Ridley.jpg
Also in regards to Bowser and Mario, their size difference is still shown fairly clearly in Smash Bros and the Mario series is in no way like the Metroid series. Wildly varying size within the series can be easily overlooked or attributed to Magikoopa or Bowser being Bowser. You can't apply that to Metroid and it's clearly more serious and somewhat realistic tone, Ridley has had a fairly consistent size in relation to Samus. Samus is already one of the tallest characters in the game, doing that size difference justice introduces far too many issues as opposed to using characters that are already somewhat viable.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
The latest super legit, 100% real rumor points to Dark Samus and her dark chances being blacked out.
I'm not sure why scale's a problem. None of the Pokemon characters are in scale. Pikachu and Squirtle are huge compared to their in-game versions.
(Also, when I said interesting characters, I was meaning characterization. Dark Samus and Ridley and Sylux and whoever have interesting power sets and boss fights, but aren't really characters beyond broad archetypes)
(Also, when I said interesting characters, I was meaning characterization. Dark Samus and Ridley and Sylux and whoever have interesting power sets and boss fights, but aren't really characters beyond broad archetypes)
Oh shit. Run Luigi, run!
Phendrana Drifts, Sanctuary Fortress, and Skytown. Best places in the Trilogy.
Them bargain bins mean it bombed.
Neoriceisgood
Member
How do you feel about Dedede?
I'm not saying that Dark Samus can't work, but I think a lot of the issue with her/it is that Dark Samus's moves consist of stuff that Samus already does on her own, just souped up because she's a boss/phazon/whatever.
Lol
I know nothing of an avatar list, but I did know what I wanted. But someone else who has asked for Ridley can have it...
for now
When has that been a limiting factor to a characters viability in Smash Bros?
Boost Ball
Missiles
Shrapnel beam/Giant laser/who knows how many other random beam attacks
That's about it. No bombs, grapple beam, screw attack, etc. She uses something similar to the shine spark in Prime 2, but that seems like a coincidence considering the shine spark doesn't appear in the Prime games. Go check out her fight in Prime 3, it's a goldmine of weird moves (Including the incredibly silly echoes dance).
It isn't, I was just responding when someone said that Dark Samus isn't an interesting character.
Back to having no characterization at all I guess.
MercilessMercer
Member
I can't play Dedede for crap, but I do know he is stronger on ground then air, and doesn't have grapples. I'd say that if Ridley were in SSB4, he'd be way more powerful than Brawl Dedede, based on what you guys are suggesting.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
He's hiding in Dark Samus armor so no one will notice him.