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[Jaeger]

WTF is that? They at least fixed his colors coming from Brawl, but why does he now look like someone wearing a bad Bowser costume? The eyes are too far apart, he's too thin or something, and his stances are all wrong. (Smash 4)

Sakurai, we won't think it's lazy if you just take the official character models from other games and tweak them a little bit. In fact, please do! They should keep the Brawl animations but substitute in the real models, and done.

Wow, I don't see any of the problems you think you are seeing.

 

[Polioliolio]

The screenshots used in that post for Link were from E3. If I recall, his model was changed a bit in the newer daily images. I don't think he looks bad.

Anybody do any comparisons yet? I'd like to see if this is true.

 

[LouieGeetoo]

Wow, I don't see any of the problems you think you are seeing.

It's a little subtle. Maybe it's just that I'm used to Bowser being this goofy guy trying to be tough, while Smash tries to portray him as being an outright evil monster.

 

[Polioliolio]

Wow, I don't see any of the problems you think you are seeing.

His eyes are definitely too far apart.

That's probably the stand out issue here.

 

[ffdgh]

It's a little subtle. Maybe it's just that I'm used to Bowser being this goofy guy trying to be tough, while Smash tries to portray him as being an outright evil monster.

....No can't say I see the evil. Just seems like he's ready to finally throw down after having a weight problem and bad back in melee and brawl lol.

 

[Darmani]

Yeah, they really do need to reveal an intimidating or cool character to really get the blood pumping. I'd rather they reveal someone that makes people go "cool!" istead of "yaay!". Although I had no problem with Rosalina as a fighter in and of herself it was a bit depressing updating my friends and them just saying "oh another Mario character". It was more entertaining hearing them say "what the fuck?" with Wii Fit trainer. Even the hatred for Rosalina is not as interesting as it was for Wii Fit trainer.

Say, another female character with unique presentation and moveset, instead?

It's still more to the boys but the Smash Brothers are adding more sisters to their line-up and that's always an admirable thing in this current climate.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Legend of Zelda character Reveal on Dec 26! BELIEVE!

 

[Jaeger]

Whatever you guys are smoking, pass that along to me. Been a hectic week.

Bowser's brow distance has not changed at all in the past several years. If you are going to compare something like that, at least compare images with the same perspective with one another....

Then grab something more recent.

The ONLY and I repeat ONLY major differences in Bowser's models are his texture/skin is actually more realistic (like that of an actual reptile's) than his much more cartoony selves in other Mario titles.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Super Smash Bros. WiiU / 3DS Thread 4: The Cycle Never Ends

Sure, it's a balancing act. However, that doesn't mean people who argue "x franchise is over-represented" are wrong. It's simply a question of whether they value other facets of a character's representation more or less than the facet of that character which is franchise representation.

I guess it's because they think it always "franchise first". I honestly think right since 64 it's always more about characters than anything else, since we already got two reps from certain games there. But hey, as long as they don't try to sound like someone from the Crusades, then all should be merry.

 

[Neoriceisgood]

Boo hoo smash doesn't make characters look exactly the way I want.

Spoiler

Link still looks like shit though.

 

[Kjellson]

I can't wait for the inevitable pic where Mario, Sonic, Mega Man and Pac-Man are taunting in front of the screen.

 

[Timeaisis]

What am I reading.

 

[IntelliHeath]

What am I reading.

lol yeah, I might take a break from this thread during christmas break. If I see anything interesting from daily image, then I will make the comments on it. Do me favor, SmashGAF. DO NOT lose your sanity during Christmas break. Especially with Sakurai, if he decided to take a week break.

 

[Kouichi]

I'm going to stray off the negativity for a bit to point out the characters that I think look fantastic on both versions.

Pit

Mega Man

Luigi

Marth

Rosalina

Both versions Smash Bros. 4 have my favorite art style in the whole series. So colorful and vibrant.

 

[GAMERG0D]

Samus's Other M armor is just awful. The morph ball looks hideous and the visor is a darker shade of green. They're probably going to ruin Zero Suit Samus too. Prime Varia Suit is the best.

 

[Raging Spaniard]

That post complaining about the models is some of the most nonsensical shit Ive ever read.

Models for fighting games have many different needs than the models in other games, thats why some proportions are different, the game is also seen from the profile view, so proportions need to be altered a bit to accomodate too. Then you have a very big cast of characters, so the rendering style needs to be somewhat consistent across the board, making some characters seem "off" when compared to their source games.

 

[Village]

That post complaining about the models is some of the most nonsensical shit Ive ever read.

Models for fighting games have many different needs than the models in other games, thats why some proportions are different, the game is also seen from the profile view, so proportions need to be altered a bit to accomodate too. Then you have a very big cast of characters, so the rendering style needs to be somewhat consistent across the board, making some characters seem "off" when compared to their source games.

I agree.

however that does not make some of them not like poo.

 

[Polioliolio]

Megaman does look perfect.

 

[boxter432]

whoopsies. thought the discussion was ridiculous so decided to take it to a more ridiculous level.


real post: I like or love how most of the characters look

 

[Boss Doggie]

those looked like eyes

 

[NexusCell]

Spoiler

little mac's boobies by the way...

how lewd.

 

[Kouichi]

I propose that we never mention boobs in a Smash thread again.

Things are getting too weird.

 

[Exotoro]

I propose that we never mention boobs in a Smash thread again.

Things are getting too weird.

what about butts
can we talk about those

 

[JazzmanZ]

Oh look someone has forgotten to read the OP about how this shit isn't allowed

 

[Timeaisis]

I propose that we never mention boobs in a Smash thread again.

Things are getting too weird.

I second this.

 

[Kouichi]

what about butts
can we talk about those

If you promise to behave.

 

[IntelliHeath]

I propose that we never mention boobs in a Smash thread again.

Things are getting too weird.

Yes, please. Remember the warning on OP. Stop if you don't want to get banned. P

 

[ffdgh]

http://i.imgur.com/nlIGcGo.png[IMG]

[SPOILER]little mac's boobies by the way...[/SPOILER][/QUOTE]

There's something very wrong with this.

I'm all for dropping this subject too.

 

[Caladrius]

Other M plz

I actually thought that the Other M suit was much better than the Brawl Suit (the curves look weird to me). The Prime variant is still my favorite too though.

 

[Kouichi]

I prefer the sleek design of the Other M suit over the bulky suit in Brawl.

 

[Exotoro]

If you promise to behave.

kirby's butt so fine

 

[meow]

I really dislike the Link model. I don't like how pronounced the hair-bang-flip is, it was ok when his hair was blocker in Brawl and TP, but it just looks weird when his hair is so wispy. The way his hair flips out reminds me of

Spoiler

Rapunzel's hair

at the end of Tangled. His face is so strange looking.

I had mostly forgotten about it, but then I saw the model from the Musou game.

 

[zroid]

I want Link to have his Zelda Musou scarf in every depiction now

it looks so cool ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

 

[nilbog21]

have any famous melee players played this game and talked about it? ]

reading this thread reminds of me all the hype that built up to Brawl, only to find out it was complete shit. Can't believe I bought a Wii for Brawl alone...

 

[theprodigy]

1) The game is still in development.
2) You won't notice most of those when playing.

I can feel the goalposts moving

I want Link to have his Zelda Musou scarf in every depiction now

it looks so cool ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

Zelda so fierce

 

[ffdgh]

have any famous melee players played this game and talked about it? ]

reading this thread reminds of me all the hype that built up to Brawl, only to find out it was complete shit. Can't believe I bought a Wii for Brawl alone...

no one has played this.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Fusion suit > all

 

[Village]

Megaman does look perfect.

this is the truest fact.

 

[-Horizon-]

Samus's Other M armor is just awful. The morph ball looks hideous and the visor is a darker shade of green. They're probably going to ruin Zero Suit Samus too. Prime Varia Suit is the best.

I really have no problem with her new armor design at all. The morph ball is bland though so I'll give you that but the actual suit looks fine.

 

[SmithnCo]

Woooo weekend got started with a bang.

 

[Caladrius]

Woooo weekend got started with a bang.

Run as fast as you can. Before you know it we'll be nitpicking that the shade of slate used for the house in Mario Galaxy is bad.

 

[Neiteio]

Ah, so now we're discussing how Sakurai has (apparently, allegedly, although my eyes doth not perceive it) embiggened the breasts of Peach and Rosalina. And apparently Sakurai, the quaint lil' cat man who once complained about people taking up-skirt shots of Peach in Brawl, is the Walter White of self-serving Internet perverts.

Yeah.

Really guys?

 

[Jaeger]

Woooo weekend got started with a bang.

POW POW.

Echoing the "Other M" suit is fine. I think the general distaste for the game itself where it comes from is clouding ones judgement on the design of the suit itself.

 

[Son Of D]

What on Earth happened over the last few hours?

 

[Ryce]

Peach and Rosalina are more "realistic" in Smash Bros. so they won't look like shit next to characters like Zelda. The characters are depicted in as close to a unified art style as possible. Obviously, nothing can be done to make Kirby look like he's from the same world as Solid Snake, but it doesn't take a ton of work for Peach to fit in with the Zelda and Fire Emblem characters.

 

[PK Gaming]

I'm still supremely disappointed that TP Link got in over SS Link

TP Link had his time to shine, I'd reckon it SS's time turn... haaaaagghhhnnn

 

[PopeReal]

SmashGAF always loses me. I still appreciate the updates though, even if they lead to weird rants and tangents.

 

[Gardex]

I feel like some people are more judgemental regarding Samus's armor simply because of its origin.

It looks sleek and good

 

[-Horizon-]

What on Earth happened over the last few hours?

You tell me, I just got here.

I'm still supremely disappointed that TP Link got in over SS Link

TP Link had his time to shine, I'd reckon it SS's time turn... haaaaagghhhnnn

They should've used Hyrule Warriors' Link. That scarf can be part of his final smash!

 

[PK Gaming]

You tell me, I just got here.



They should've used Hyrule Warriors' Link. That scarf can be part of his final smash!

That scarf is damn cool

I guess i'm depressed because SS was probably my favorite Link after Toon Link, and he probably got passed up because he wasn't a pretty boy.