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[Toxi]

Ridley no longer too big, just too wide.

I feel this sort of thinking is restrictive.

Even if there was no way to have Ridley with a smaller hitbox than any current Smash character, so what? Did we cry foul when Olimar was smaller than any other character? Some characters have big hitboxes, some have small hitboxes. There are plenty of fighting games with size differences more extreme, like Rocket Racoon vs Sentinel in Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom. There is no limit as long as their size doesn't break the combat system of ground attacks, aerials, and grabs.

This is like saying "Rosalina and Luma can't work because a similar character hasn't been done before!" If we only allowed new characters that fit the mechanics of the old game, we'd never get anything new.

Are you looking at Miiverse or the Smash Bros site? The Pic is on the smash Bros site.

I'm looking at the Smash Bros site. The border of the pic says 3DS, but the image is Rosalina, Peach, and Mario in the Wii U version.

EDIT: And now I can see the pic after another Refresh. Hmmm... The background is really pretty. Samus's missile seems larger than it was in previous games.

 

[BoosterDuck]

I feel this sort of thinking is restrictive.

Even if there was no way to have Ridley with a smaller hitbox than any current Smash character, so what? Did we cry foul when Olimar was smaller than any other character? Some characters have big hitboxes, some have small hitboxes. There are plenty of fighting games with size differences more extreme, like Rocket Racoon vs Sentinel in Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom. There is no limit as long as their size doesn't break the combat system of ground attacks, aerials, and grabs.

This is like saying "Rosalina and Luma can't work because a similar character hasn't been done before!" If we only allowed new characters that fit the mechanics of the old game, we'd never get anything new.

what's Ridley going to do besides breath fire and yell

turn into meta ridley?

 

[Toxi]

what's Ridley going to do besides breath fire and yell

Make Ridley jokes, although by this point anyone can do that.

People who say "Ridley is too wide" are just lacking imagination. Not every Smash character has to fit into the previous standards; otherwise we never would have gotten Ice Climbers.

turn into meta ridley?

That's like asking if he should turn into zombie Ridley.

But now I'm imagining Sakurai not giving a shit like usual and making Ridley transform into Meta-Ridley for his final Smash, so bravo.

 

[Anth0ny]

What the fuck is going on with my computer, I'm just seeing the Rosalina Wii U image from yesterday.

I want to see Rainbow Road so bad.

I do too, lol

but I can see it in the separate thread for the new stage. weird.

 

[Fiktion]

I do too, lol

but I can see it in the separate thread for the new stage. weird.

I rehosted it in that thread.

 

[SaintMadeOfPlaster]

That's like asking if he should turn into zombie Ridley.

Except Meta Ridley is actually a thing.

 

[SmithnCo]

Ridley should be a huge fucking grappler. Big target and slow on ground but makes up for it in the air.

The only thing is maybe other characters throwing him might look weird if he's too big. But other than that, they should just embrace his size.

 

[SaintMadeOfPlaster]

But now I'm imagining Sakurai not giving a shit like usual and making Ridley transform into Meta-Ridley for his final Smash, so bravo.

You're kidding right? Have you ever seen an interview with the man? He lives, breathes, eats, and drinks whatever project he's working on. He probably sleeps 4 hours a day now and spends the other 20 on Smash Bros.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

You're kidding right? Have you ever seen an interview with the man? He lives, breathes, eats, and drinks whatever project he's working on. He probably sleeps 4 hours a day now and spends the other 20 on Smash Bros.

Well he doesn't do what a vocal minority wants, so he's clearly a lazy layabout.

 

[Toxi]

Except Meta Ridley is actually a thing.

We had a zombie Ridley in Metroid Fusion.

Anyway, I doubt Ridley nearly getting killed and then being reconstructed with technology is a very effective transformation technique.

You're kidding right? Have you ever seen an interview with the man? He lives, breathes, eats, and drinks whatever project he's working on. He probably sleeps 4 hours a day now and spends the other 20 on Smash Bros.

We're talking about Metroid here.

(Also, I was half-joking with that line)

 

[SaintMadeOfPlaster]

We had a zombie Ridley in Metroid Fusion.

Hahaha, whoops. Completely forgot.

We're talking about Metroid here.

So are you saying he doesn't give a shit about Metroid? I'm confused.

 

[SkullHydra]

You're kidding right? Have you ever seen an interview with the man? He lives, breathes, eats, and drinks whatever project he's working on. He probably sleeps 4 hours a day now and spends the other 20 on Smash Bros.

I really feel bad for the guy sometimes. He has such pressure on him to make a perfect game, and yet people still complain to him about not doing what they want him to. (Not talking about anyone here, just in general)

 

[Toxi]

So are you saying he doesn't give a shit about Metroid? I'm confused.

It's a joke about how every single Metroid stage but one is a lava-filled room.

I think he likes Metroid (Because otherwise why add a new character like Zero-Suit Samus), he just makes bizarre decisions about how the series is represented in Smash.

 

[Dimitri LH]

You're kidding right? Have you ever seen an interview with the man? He lives, breathes, eats, and drinks whatever project he's working on. He probably sleeps 4 hours a day now and spends the other 20 on Smash Bros.

You counted wrong since he spends MOST of his days slaving to his cat. Its the reason why we haven't even seen a miiverse post today.

 

[DICKS AHOY]

Well he doesn't do what a vocal minority wants, so he's clearly a lazy layabout.

Personally I'm more fond of people labelling him an egotistical maniac who plays favorites with his own franchises, because otherwise nobody would've ever wanted Dedede or Meta Knight in a Smash game.

 

[SaintMadeOfPlaster]

It's a joke about how every single Metroid stage but one is a lava-filled room.

I think he likes Metroid (Because it still get plenty of representation compared to other series), he just makes bizarre decisions about how the series is represented in Smash.

Ah. Yeah, and the trend seems to be continuing. At least Melee had the rotating stage and Brawl had the Parasite Queen stage, I suppose.

In terms of characters, though, there really isn't anyone else he can pick from, unless he wants to really reach and grab another Bounty Hunter from the Metroid universe. As much as people want Ridley to be in the game, I just don't see it happening. Especially considering Sakurai confirmed he's a part of the Metroid stage.

 

[MrSaturn99]

HOMYGAWD RAINBOW ROAD

Mariokart64songmariokart64mariokart64song PLEAAASEEE

Oh, wait, that's already in the MK7 arrangement. EVERYONE WINS! SQUEEEEE

 

[Toxi]

Personally I'm more fond of people labelling him a egotistical maniac who plays favorites with his own franchises, because otherwise nobody ever wanted Dedede or Meta Knight in a Smash game before Brawl.

I thought people said that because Snake, Meta Knight, and Dedede all have questionable design decisions that make them broken as fuck. Dedede has that chain throw, Snake has bizarre hitboxes, and Metaknight is just Metaknight.

Unfortunately, the joke flounders at Kirby, because Kirby in Brawl still isn't close to his 64 glory days. Needs more buffs.

Especially considering Sakurai confirmed he's a part of the Metroid stage.

He said he appeared on the stage, which means anything from Ridley being an Assist Trophy to Ridley being a boss to Ridley being a new item that crushes people with his weight.

 

[DICKS AHOY]

In terms of characters, though, there really isn't anyone else he can pick from, unless he wants to really reach and grab another Bounty Hunter from the Metroid universe. As much as people want Ridley to be in the game, I just don't see it happening. Especially considering Sakurai confirmed he's a part of the Metroid stage.

While he probably is, Sakurai never outright said this.

He just made a really, really obvious allusion to Ridley in the stage's description.

I thought people said that because Snake, Meta Knight, and Dedede all have questionable design decisions that make them broken as fuck.

I know some people do (and Metaknight is hilariously broken), but especially before SSB4 was properly 'revealed' you constantly had a few people seriously going on about how Sakurai would just fill the roster with his own creations due to both meta and dedede debuting Brawl.

 

[Zalman]

Ah. Yeah, and the trend seems to be continuing. At least Melee had the rotating stage and Brawl had the Parasite Queen stage, I suppose.

In terms of characters, though, there really isn't anyone else he can pick from, unless he wants to really reach and grab another Bounty Hunter from the Metroid universe. As much as people want Ridley to be in the game, I just don't see it happening. Especially considering Sakurai confirmed he's a part of the Metroid stage.

Toon Link is a part of the Spirit Track stage so that shouldn't matter.

 

[SaintMadeOfPlaster]

Toon Link is a part of the Spirit Track stage so that shouldn't matter.

Ah! You're right.

Hope remains...

 

[Fiktion]

Maybe instead of Meta Ridley, Sakurai will introduce Mini Ridley.

 

[Kyzon]

What the fuck is going on with my computer, I'm just seeing the Rosalina Wii U image from yesterday.

I want to see Rainbow Road so bad.

Ooh, nice. Didn't know there was already a similar concept in the games (I've never played Pokemon Ranger). The only issue I see with Pichu, Plusle, and Minun is that they're all small electric rodents, and I think the point of Pokemon trainers should be having a variety of aesthetics to go along with the variety of Pokemon.

How does he look like a rooster? If anything, Prime 3 Meta Ridley is a toucan. Other M Ridley is a duck.

My favorite Ridley look is Metroid Prime. The head is the perfect shape, the tail is extra-long, and it isn't too muscled.

Ridley

 

[SmithnCo]

Ah! You're right.

Hope remains...

And the Other M Ridley was a clone too.

I wonder if he would have any qualms with Other M Samus as playable but a playable Ridley with a design from another game.

 

[ArchedThunder]

We had a zombie Ridley in Metroid Fusion.

Anyway, I doubt Ridley nearly getting killed and then being reconstructed with technology is a very effective transformation technique.

Eh, that wasn't a Zombie version of Ridley, it wasn't even Ridley.

Toon Link is a part of the Spirit Track stage so that shouldn't matter.

That is the Spirit Tracks Link, the Link you play as is the Wind Waker one, they are two different Links.

 

[PaulExcellent]

So... have you guys seen that Pacman in SSB4 picture going around?
Looks fake, but I like the idea. It would be cool to see Pacman in the mix.

 

[ArchedThunder]

So... have you guys seen that Pacman in SSB4 picture going around?

Wachu talkin bout?

 

[Toxi]

I know some people do (and Metaknight is hilariously broken), but especially before SSB4 was properly 'revealed' you constantly had a few people seriously going on about how Sakurai would just fill the roster with his own creations due to both meta and dedede debuting Brawl.

Oh no, that's just silly.

Kirby, Dedede, and Metaknight hail from a franchise with a ton of games, many of them experimenting with new mechanics like Air Ride, Canvas Curse, and Tilt n Tumble. The three have diverse movesets and aesthetic designs and don't feel like repetitive additions to the cast. I also think the three perfectly represent the Kirby series; the only other character I can even think of getting in is bandana Waddle Dee.

If any franchise has too many characters, it's Star Fox. I'm guessing Falco was kept due to his immense tournament popularity, but it's still kinda silly when we're talking about a near-dead franchise with only five games and a remake.

 

[Zalman]

That is the Spirit Tracks Link, the Link you play as is the Wind Waker one, they are two different Links.

That's like saying the Mario in NSMB2 is different than the one in NSMBU!

 

[ArchedThunder]

That's like saying the Mario in NSMB2 is different than the one in NSMBU!

Not really, Wind Waker Link is the grandfather of Spirit Tracks Link...

 

[Toxi]

Eh, that wasn't a Zombie version of Ridley, it wasn't even Ridley.

It was a parasite that ate the Ridley clone's flesh and assumed his form. That's pretty close to some other video game zombies.

(Also, the corpse opens its eyes for a second, so I'll keep claiming zombies.)

That is the Spirit Tracks Link, the Link you play as is the Wind Waker one, they are two different Links.

Not really, Wind Waker Link is the grandfather of Spirit Tracks Link...

Other M Ridley is a clone of the one that died in Super Metroid.

 

[KHlover]

That's like saying the Mario in NSMB2 is different than the one in NSMBU!

Afraid not. Spirit Tracks Link is the great-grandson or so of WW Link.

 

[SmithnCo]

So... have you guys seen that Pacman in SSB4 picture going around?
Looks fake, but I like the idea. It would be cool to see Pacman in the mix.

Ah, the old "offscreen shot + tilt to hide the photoshoppery" trick

 

[Fiktion]

Proven fake on Smashboards ages ago.

 

[PaulExcellent]

Proven fake on Smashboards ages ago.

Oh, my bad. Just stumbled upon it a few minutes ago.
Still, would be pretty cool. Even with his new look, Pacman fits well.

 

[ArchedThunder]

Other M Ridley is a clone of the one that died in Super Metroid.

I know this, and I want to forget this.

 

[FlynnCL]

That Rainbow Road stage looks cool. I wonder if the platform will take you to the moon for a little bit, as that was my favourite part of the stage in Mario Kart 7.

 

[Boss Doggie]

dat rainbow road

So does this mean 3DS did get a representation in the CGI movie!

 

[Zalman]

Not really, Wind Waker Link is the grandfather of Spirit Tracks Link...

Afraid not. Spirit Tracks Link is the great-grandson or so of WW Link.

Ah well, I usually try to forget the timeline. It makes no sense to me. Either way, the fact that Ridley is a stage hazard shouldn't make a difference. It's possible to have four of the same character fighting each other. Smash doesn't care about those things.

I still don't think Ridley will be playable though.

 

[?oe?oe]

It's almost 2014. I'm sure, by now, people know how to take a clear photo and not tilt their camera 45'.

 

[ArchedThunder]

dat rainbow road

So does this mean 3DS did get a representation in the CGI movie!

That wasn't the 3DS Rainbow Road in the CG.

Ah well, I usually try to forget the timeline. It makes no sense to me.

You don't have to pay attention to the timeline, they say it in the game.

 

[LOLDSFAN]

Meh Rosalina again.

Oh look Rainbow Road! Yay!

 

[Toxi]

Ridley

That's a good picture, I see what you mean. Most bird necks are like that, though. The feathers tend to cover it.

I know this, and I want to forget this.

That's probably the least objectionable thing about Other M.

 

[ArchedThunder]

That's probably the least objectionable thing about Other M.

The least objectionable thing about Other M is that I'm not forced to play it 24 hours a day.
I want to forget Other M even exists, why Sakurai would put so much representation of it in Smash after the backlash that game had is beyond me.

 

[SmithnCo]

That's probably the least objectionable thing about Other M.

It's a welcome point, it means the weird roid spike duck creature wasn't the true Ridley.

 

[ArchedThunder]

It's a welcome point, it means the weird roid spike duck creature wasn't the true Ridley.

No, but it implies that Ridley was that at one point...

 

[Boss Doggie]

That wasn't the 3DS Rainbow Road in the CG.

I thought it was close enough

 

[Toxi]

No, but it implies that Ridley was that at one point...

His college football days nearly ruined him, but eventually Ridley got through rehab, lost some weight, and earned his degree.

 

[BGBW]

Was rather confused why no one was talking about the daily pic in the old thread. You closed early!

So Sakurai was his sneaky self again and that Rainbow Road in the trailer was a Red Herring like I suspected. MK7's is my favourite so I'm happy.

 

[Mr. Fix]

Can't wait for the superior Wii-U version of the Rainbow Road stage.