Super Smash Bros Wii U & 3DS Thread 4: New Year, Old Arguments
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theprodigy
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how dare you compare Project M to real Smash Bros /s
Looks like 24 before the Pokemon block with Random, and 24 after. So 54 slots overall, when you include Random.
Mario - Luigi - Bowser
Peach - Rosalina - Bowser Jr.
Link - Zelda - Ganondorf
T. Link - T. Zelda - T. Ganondorf
Donkey Kong - Diddy Kong
Dixie Kong - King K. Rool
Samus - Ridley
Pit - Palutena
Yoshi - Wario
Takamaru - Little Mac
Pikachu - P. Trainer - Jigglypuff
Lucario - Mewtwo - RANDOM
Kirby - Meta Knight - King Dedede
Fox - Falco - Wolf
C. Falcon - Pikmin & Olimar
Ness - Lucas
Marth - Chrom & Lucina
Ike - Roy
Mr. Game & Watch - Ice Climbers - R.O.B
Villager - Wii Fit Trainer - Mii
Sonic - Snake
Mega Man - Pac-Man
Mario - Luigi - Bowser
Peach - Rosalina - Bowser Jr.
Link - Zelda - Ganondorf
T. Link - T. Zelda - T. Ganondorf
Donkey Kong - Diddy Kong
Dixie Kong - King K. Rool
Samus - Ridley
Pit - Palutena
Yoshi - Wario
Takamaru - Little Mac
Pikachu - P. Trainer - Jigglypuff
Lucario - Mewtwo - RANDOM
Kirby - Meta Knight - King Dedede
Fox - Falco - Wolf
C. Falcon - Pikmin & Olimar
Ness - Lucas
Marth - Chrom & Lucina
Ike - Roy
Mr. Game & Watch - Ice Climbers - R.O.B
Villager - Wii Fit Trainer - Mii
Sonic - Snake
Mega Man - Pac-Man
theprodigy
Member
what the heck are you even talking about
The above pretty visual guide inspired me to step my game up with roster making. I have an even crazier separate roster but here's my more conservative roster for now.
47 character slots, 51/52 characters total, 13/14 new characters. A SHITLOAD OF COLORS!!!!
Notes: I don't feel that confident with Shulk anymore since he's a one-off character and another swordsman, Ridley added because he's long overdue/can magically shrink down/another great villain, I think Lucina will still get in as a female Fire Emblem rep, and I keep going back and forth with Wonder Red and Chibi-Robo being playable or being Assist Trophies. Impa and Toon Zelda because the whole Phantom fiasco, and Impa with Sheik moveset would be great anyway as another Legend of Zelda rep who's not Tingle because she's more constant unlike say Ghirahim.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Pokemon anime being used in smash
smh
smh
Jigglypuff and meowth almost inclusion
Also the anime/manga is the thing that promoted Pikachu as the mascot.
Also Lucario and mewtwo's popularity
Weiner Whistle
Member
On the subject of character transformations, I believe Zelda and Sheik should stay together as one character. Unlike the Pokemon Trainer, both Zelda transformations are literally the same person with a different outfit and abilities. As for PT, I think they should allow the player to change the Pokemon's location during its switching animation, since it's actually removed from the battlefield for a few seconds.
lol, everyone else has some words of wisdom type paragraph of text but Sakurai just wants to finish his game.
I approve!
ShockingAlberto
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I like it compared to Nomura's
Sakurai: I am going to finish my game
Nomura: I dunno, shit's changing, don't blame me
Sakurai: I am going to finish my game
Nomura: I dunno, shit's changing, don't blame me
CriterionDog
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Man, I just hate Fox's Command/Brawl/4 design. Why couldn't they use the 3DS remake design? So much better...
The final delay for the western versions broke me. The release date before that was a couple of days after my birthday.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Dr. Feel Good
Banned
Lucario and Mewtwo will be in the game... But in Mega evolution form.
I mentioned the manga, I guess i forgot the cardgame.
lol the Smash struggle. Late 2014 it is.
stahp with the cute doges, I can't afford a dog yet and I kinda want one. :l
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Not just those. Toys, plush, etc.
Pikachu is the only one that can be truly considered to be big due to the anime, and even then he was competing with Clefairy.
Nov. 2014 confirmed
Also has anyone linked that article where Sakurai was talking about how the balancing is going in the game? It's interesting and it helps to know he's focusing on
theprodigy
Member
Nov. 2014 confirmed
Also has anyone linked that article where Sakurai was talking about how the balancing is going in the game? It's interesting and it helps to know he's focusing on 4vs4 as well as 1v1 balancing.
EIGHT PLAYERS CONFIRMED?!?!?!?
PadWarrior
Member
Now the question is when in 2014.
ShockingAlberto
Member
2013 seemed unlikely at this point, anyway.
PadWarrior
Member
People are serious about that? I thought it was just a forum joke LOL.
This game release is the last straw on my "I should get a wii u" ... so I need a release date so I can prepare my savings in apropriate manners !
Well... he WAS the 4th playable character in return to dreamland =P
But I doubt Kibry series will receive a new addition any time soon
You're so funny I'm dying of laughter.
EIGHT PLAYERS CONFIRMED?!?!?!?
Lol damn! Now that's a serious typo XD
That'd be intense though o__o
Lucario and Mewtwo?
You know the ones that got super popular because of the anime movies, which then got everyone to buy their toys merchandise ect.
And the literal sole reason jiggly is even in smash bros.
Alternatively, you could start saving now, so that by the time Super Smash Bros. 4 has a solid release date, you'll be well on your way on being an owner of a shiny Nintendo Wii U console.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Mewtwo already is notable being "that final Pokemon" in RBY.
Lucario got a movie sure, but normally the popularity will fade. After all, he's not the only Pokemon with a movie. Lucario however is a very good Pokemon, is given to you in a side quest without any hitches, is represented well in Gen IV, and of course, merchandising. He pretty much caught on.
Green Mamba
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To say that the anime has no influence on Smash Bros. is very incorrect. The voices are pretty clearly taken from it. Jigglypuff's inclusion certainly seems to be hinged on it, and Mewtwo and Lucario's depictions and personalities are very clearly based on their movie depictions (whether or not they were actually chosen to be playable because of them is another thing). Sakurai has mentioned the movies as one of the things he looks to when choosing Pokemon representation.
It's obviously not the be all end all, but it clearly has influence on Smash Bros.
It's obviously not the be all end all, but it clearly has influence on Smash Bros.
*2 years later*
Started my "Top 5 3rd Party characters for Smash" miiverse posts ! =D
We start with the honorable mentions with ...
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAADRUqFn0xEXkw
edit:
I love epic yarn and yarn kirby is my favorite Streetpass hat.... but Prince Fluff is Assist trophy material at best =(
Started my "Top 5 3rd Party characters for Smash" miiverse posts ! =D
We start with the honorable mentions with ...
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAADRUqFn0xEXkw
edit:
I love epic yarn and yarn kirby is my favorite Streetpass hat.... but Prince Fluff is Assist trophy material at best =(
Lord_Byron28
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Sakurai wanted a character that could control similar to Kirby and given its anime popularity at the time Jigglypuff was chosen. Really the main poke that got kinda gipped in 64/Melee was Meowth who is still kinda popular to this day.
He should of stuck with Dedede considering they both suck and puff.I keep forgetting Meowth, he would've been way better than Jigglypuff.
That got nerfed straight to hell.
Green Mamba
Member
So? It can be buffed just as easily.
Back to Melee days? Doubt it. In all honesty I rather have her cut from the roster completely.
brawl nerfed a lot of good characters to hell though
i dont see the point of just cutting a unique character away because of a nerf
in speaking of cutting characters... nothing against impa or her supporters but what's the appeal in replacing Shiek with Impa?
Green Mamba
Member
That's a pretty silly reason to want someone cut.
Kinda weird reasoning.
Anyway, she got the roll in Brawl which while predictable, is pretty powerful. Sometimes you can catch people by surprise with it.