Just weird that it doesn't look right.
They'll surely fix it
If it's intersecting the middle of her body then they've got it right. Looks fine to me.
Super Smash Bros Wii U & 3DS Thread 4: New Year, Old Arguments
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If it's intersecting the middle of her body then they've got it right. Looks fine to me.
Mother Brain would only work if the game had no items, as she has no way to grab them.
Green Mamba
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The only way that Mother Brain would get in as a playable character would be in her walking form, which has hands.
Not that Mother Brain would ever get in as a playable character. She would make an amazing boss though.
She can if she's kawaii uguu~ Mother Brain from Other M
Perfect Other M rep.
the android seems to be the right size to me...
Not that I want this form to be playable.
Not that I want this form to be playable.
Green Mamba
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Not Mother Brain, technically. A recreation based on Mother Brain, but not a clone or anything.
Perfect Other M rep.
the android seems to be the right size to me...
Not that I want this form to be playable.
It's a crime that you haven't played Super Metroid.
i make a point to avoid popular games as they're usually terrible
Then why are you playing Smash?
buying a wii u and games for it is my way as being hipster as fuck
it's going in the bin the minute more than 1 million people have one in the uk
edit: oh god if someone put hipster glasses on my rabbit i would actually love you
Then I've got a Metroid game for you
I can't tell, are you replying to afoni's posts seriously, Fiktion?
Samus is already in the game.
im pretty sure ive expressed how much i prefer metroid other m to anything else
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
I also like the other of the Ms
theprodigy
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I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
I thought Other M was the best Metroid game on the Wii until I played Corruption.
I never gave the Prime games a fair shot because I inherently dislike playing video games from a first-person perspective. I can't really explain it -- it just seems restrictive and claustrophobic to me, and I feel more vulnerable. I like being able to see the character model and its surroundings all at once.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
I also enjoyed Other M, but I'm not a hardcore Metroid fan so the story and characterizations didn't bother me much. I thought it was a fun little game to play through.
I'm basically the same.
MrSaturn99
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I was expecting some sort of hilarious B-movie when I finally got into Other M in the past year and I was instead met with the most neutral, monotone game ever. Aside from laughing at the Varia Suit fiasco and
, I feel absolutely nothing about it.
The weirdest Nintendo game I've ever played (aside from maybe Kirby's Dream Land 2).
getting pissed off when they didn't bother telling you to use the Power Bombs against the Queen Metroid DESPITE IT BEING REQUIRED
The weirdest Nintendo game I've ever played (aside from maybe Kirby's Dream Land 2).
B-Movie would have been enjoyable. Monotone is the right word here.
C.Olimar788
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Other M is just really terrible. It's not even the kind of terrible you can really laugh at (except maybe THE BABY), it's just genuinely bad. Samus is made into an object within her own story and is constantly bullied by the Mary Sue character we're supposed to look up to and like, which is even worse considering he was a genuinely great character in Fusion...
Oh, and the game directly contradicts practically every other Metroid game in the franchise. I have no idea how anyone could do that without deliberately trying, but here we are.
The only thing I really liked about Other M were the callback enemies and a few of the power ups. Using the Speed Booster and Shinespark in 3D was great, for instance.
Oh, and the game directly contradicts practically every other Metroid game in the franchise. I have no idea how anyone could do that without deliberately trying, but here we are.
The only thing I really liked about Other M were the callback enemies and a few of the power ups. Using the Speed Booster and Shinespark in 3D was great, for instance.
MrSaturn99
Member
I'm not gonna bother defending the game, but I never really got the joke surrounding the whole baby thing. She just says it maybe eight times in the opening cutscene and, uh, that's it.
Yeah, there's the symbolism throughout the story, I guess, but they're not made insanely obvious from what I remember so it's not like it's beating it into your head.
What exactly does Other M contradict? I found its story to fit in well with the Metroid timeline and all. If anything, the Prime series is responsible for far more contradictions, yet they get a free pass from everyone. Why?
What's most ironic: Other M is canon. The Prime games are not
The Prime games, just like Hunters are not part of the main series. They are set three years after the events of Metroid I, but their events aren't mentioned at all in the rest of the series. They are pretty much self-contained, without ANY influence on the series story. That's why they are free to contradict anything - they simply don't matter.
C.Olimar788
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It's mostly an easy target due to how much it is said (and how needlessly it is said) during the intro, combined with the metaphors with the subtlety of a brick thrown through a window. It's also easy to point to as one of the game's earliest warning signs of what was to come - Samus is suddenly given a mother complex and an obsession with The Baby with no reason other than she's a woman. Which is... well, not sexist in and of itself, but certainly problematic.
Let's see, off the top of my head...
Samus' obsession with the baby Metroid makes zero sense if one considers how easily she handed it over to the Federation in Super Metroid.
Samus having a random mental breakdown over Ridley makes no sense when on considers that she has murdered him multiple times prior.
Adam acts nothing like he does in Fusion, especially if the player considers the praise Samus heaps onto him in that game.
The opening cutscene flashback, and the game in general, nixes the Gravity Suit entirely as it was seen in Super Metroid.
More importantly, the flashback completely negates every ounce of logic in Super's famous ending. In Other M, the metroid picks Samus up, hanging her in front of Mother Brain, completely vulnerable. In Super, the metroid shields Samus with its own body and dies for it.
In the beginning, Samus claims that Other M would be the first time she worked with the Federation since she turned bounty hunter, ignoring Prime 3.
How the Zebesians act in this game goes completely against their actions (or their ability to act at all) as seen in Zero Mission and the Prime games.
And we can just ignore how Samus acts completely in contradiction to how she acts in every other Metroid, as that one's too easy of a target.
I'd be curious to see what issues you have with the Prime series, as I feel it fits into the timeline a lot better than Other M does.
At the very least it manages to exist without ruining every pre-existing character it touches.
The Bankslammer
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can confirm darumeshi sports shop is a really fucking weird game
you cut off the dog's combover and give him a pompadour to get discounts on videogames
also a sports-based moveset will most likely be taken by mii anyways
you cut off the dog's combover and give him a pompadour to get discounts on videogames
also a sports-based moveset will most likely be taken by mii anyways
Maybe the sports moves will go to Mii, but Darumeshi can still have the combover/pompadour moves!
Green Mamba
Member
...is that a man with a pitching machine for a head lobbing baseballs underhanded at a Mii?
Other M was built around its story, the Prime games were mostly not. Other M invites all storyline criticism onto itself because it wears its story on its arm. Other M is also seen as responsible for the decanonization of the very well liked Prime games, so there's that too.
Don't make me defend such a mediocre game T_T
Most of these "contradictions" are simply because the only stories in the games came from instruction manuals and Samus didn't act like anything until Fusion, and even then still barely. Also, Adam sucked in Fusion as well. Also, Prime games aren't canon.
And I don't even like Other M. It's linear, the excuse for weapon use is god awful, and it has some really, really bad design choices (find the pixel!).
But I think the problem most people have with Other M is that Samus went from a blank slate character to actually being a character, and it wasn't what a lot of people had built up in their minds. Though I wasn't surprised by it in the slightest since I had read the manga
Other M could've been cool as a new IP with that gameplay. But for Metroid it's pretty removed from a lot of elements that defined that series until then. Elements that even Prime preserved while making a switch to first-person. There's some cool stuff in the game though. Visually, Samus has some cool moves and the suit design looks sleek to me. Anthony and younger Samus were cool too.
I wonder if Metroid will get two stages again this time. Skytown from MP3 would be nice.
I wonder if Metroid will get two stages again this time. Skytown from MP3 would be nice.
She makes a giant shield and laughs when characters try to hit her?
...I want to see that happen now.
The Bankslammer
Member
man now i'm picturing some kind of weird moveset in which you have to negotiate with him how much damage you take from a move
i don't even know
theprodigy
Member
Sounds crazy enough to work! Darumeshi for Smash! (Even though I only learned of him in today's Steel Diver: Subwars thread!)
On a more serious note, I really love Weiner Whistle's suggestion of F-Type from Stunt Race FX being a playable character.
Picture the red racecar seen here:
And here:
And picture him animated like something out of Disney's Cars:
The life you can convey with a "cartoon" car lends itself perfectly to Smash! Picture him scrunching up, stretching out, spinning and rolling, trundling along, bouncing, flattening, etc.
His moves can be based on what he is, much like how R.O.B. had lasers and other robot-like tricks despite most of his moves not appearing in his games. In this case, F-Type could jet fire from his exhaust pipes... launch foes by popping his trunk or hood... stun foes with a quick flash from his headlamp "eyes"... smack people by opening his doors or tilting his spoiler... leave oil slicks, and so on. And zipping around as F-Type would be FUN!
Also, be sure to check out the Japanese commercial!
And check out great gameplay footage HERE!
And listen to this orchestrated theme!
C.Olimar788
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Most of these "contradictions" are simply because the only stories in the games came from instruction manuals and Samus didn't act like anything until Fusion, and even then still barely. Also, Adam sucked in Fusion as well. Also, Prime games aren't canon.
And I don't even like Other M. It's linear, the excuse for weapon use is god awful, and it has some really, really bad design choices (find the pixel!).
But I think the problem most people have with Other M is that Samus went from a blank slate character to actually being a character, and it wasn't what a lot of people had built up in their minds. Though I wasn't surprised by it in the slightest since I had read the manga
All right, I'm just gonna go ahead and throw one more point out on this because this particular argument is more frustrating than any other argument for Other M.
A character is NOT solely defined by what they say. To suggest that Samus wasn't a character before Other M is absolutely preposterous. By that token, the titular character in WALL-E has no character because he never really speaks.
Samus was NEVER a blank slate. Not even in Metroid 1, and certainly not through the rest of the franchise where she constantly reminds the player of who she is even as she stays silent. Other M took what she was and... well, turned her into something else. It weakened her character considerably in nonsensical cutscenes, making her suddenly unable to kill Ridley or destroy the Metroid without the help from a man.
And if you're using the manga to justify Other M's blatant mistreatment of Samus' character, well... I have to ask if you've read the manga. Because I have, and within it Samus is fleshed out considerably, but never made weak. She is made strong, made able to push past her limitations and (surprise!) defeat Ridley. Considering that took place... what, twenty years before Other M? It's an absolute injustice to her character to have her regress to weaker than she was in the manga.
Actions speak louder than words. Hell, Samus' actions in Other M speak louder to her tarnished character than her monotonous monologues ever do.
If you want more information on why Other M is awful, I highly recommend this short video and this long review on the game as a whole.