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I just....need space and time and I feel like she's trying to have her cake and eat it too.

You need to call her out on her shitty behavior. I hate it when girls do shit like that. It's just rude and insensitive. Tell her, at least for the foreseeable future, that you'd really not like to have any contact with her since you are interested in her romantically and she just wants to string you along.

And make sure you drop the mic after you tell her.

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How do you get over someone who keeps following you around trying to hold on to a friendship? This girl I had feelings for was seeing me and someone else at the same time and she picked him (she wasn't cheating, it was more of a casual thing, but it doesn't really matter because the ending is the same). I told her that my intentions with her were 100% romantic, we had dated, hooked up at the end of those dates, and everything, and that I wasn't interested in being platonic when I have feelings for her. I'm not the kind of guy to sit around and be either a back-up lover or a simp while she pursues things with someone else. That, to me, is torture. We have a 6 week break and she messages me asking if we could hang out and get coffee during the second week so I have to have this conversation AGAIN, re-stating my intentions and telling her to call me if she changes her mind, but that I had to move on and I didn't want to be friends because I wasn't ready for that. Fast forward to being back at school and every time I see her she comes around to my space in a way that seems like an obvious cry for my attention and conversation. (hanging around me, attempting to get physically closer, engaging other people in a group conversation I'm involved in even though she isn't great friends with anyone there, etc.) I know nothing involving this situation has changed. I know she still likes, hell, apparently loves, the other guy (apparently she admitted this to one of my friends while she was drunk, not that it changes anything), and I'm trying to move on, but her attempts to hang on to me and maintain some form of relationship fitted to her liking without any respect to me and mine is making this way too difficult. What do I do? Do I confront her about this? I still have feelings for her and the way things are going are almost painful. I don't engage her in any meaningful conversation, but I'm not being a dick to her. If she waves, I'll smile and wave back, if she addresses me, I'll respond although it'll usually be a short couple word answer I would give a casual acquaintance rather than a friend. I just....need space and time and I feel like she's trying to have her cake and eat it too.

Tell her that you want some space, and that being around you isn't helping you get over her, it's just making things more sour. She doesn't get to hold on to you if you wanted a relationship, she should be an adult and let you find happiness without her shitting in your cheerios.
 
So a couple weeks ago I wrote in this thread that I was going on a skating date with this girl I know. The date went well but there's like no spark between us. Honestly all the conversations that we've had were basic as hell with like no fruition. I'm introverted as hell and she is too. Its like conversation between us always seems forced. I was in class with her today and I feel like I'm over this would rather be friends. Honestly dont what she sees in me but I still think she does like me. (She asked for the date tbh). I dont know what to do, not trying to rude but damn is it rough.

I'm 19 and I feel like I wouldn't mind being in a relationship but at the same time its like I dont really care for it.
 
So a couple weeks ago I wrote in this thread that I was going on a skating date with this girl I know. The date went well but there's like no spark between us. Honestly all the conversations that we've had were basic as hell with like no fruition. I'm introverted as hell and she is too. Its like conversation between us always seems forced. I was in class with her today and I feel like I'm over this would rather be friends. Honestly dont what she sees in me but I still think she does like me. (She asked for the date tbh). I dont know what to do, not trying to rude but damn is it rough.

I'm 19 and I feel like I wouldn't mind being in a relationship but at the same time its like I dont really care for it.

If there's no spark there's no spark. Just be honest with her.
 
So a couple weeks ago I wrote in this thread that I was going on a skating date with this girl I know. The date went well but there's like no spark between us. Honestly all the conversations that we've had were basic as hell with like no fruition. I'm introverted as hell and she is too. Its like conversation between us always seems forced. I was in class with her today and I feel like I'm over this would rather be friends. Honestly dont what she sees in me but I still think she does like me. (She asked for the date tbh). I dont know what to do, not trying to rude but damn is it rough.

I'm 19 and I feel like I wouldn't mind being in a relationship but at the same time its like I dont really care for it.

If you're not into it, then it's a disservice to her and you...simple as that. Just let her know that you don't think it would work, and be a gentleman about it.
 
I'm such a dunce....

So I've been wondering why I never received a response from the two girls I've messaged on facebook. Hmmmmmmm, I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that my profile pic is not me but instead a Zdzisław Beksiński painting! I've had as my profile pic for over a year and have just gotten used to it. Granted, this is probably not the only reason but it sure is a big one.

I'm sorry I just had to vent here and laugh about the whole thing....
 
Getting pretty anxious to meet FB girl on Friday. It's going to be a bit strange though...first time I'm going into a first date this late into the game. We've already talked for probably a good 20 hours over the past week (combination of FB and phone) so there's already a really strong connection there. I'm almost unsure how to approach this. I mean, I'm just going to go have some tea with her and talk, and try to form a physical connection, but it's definitely throwing me a bit out of my comfort zone as far as first dates go.
 
Tinder...man. What an awesome self esteem boost haha.

If you're not half bad looking, get the app and chat with other not half bad looking people!
 
So a couple weeks ago I wrote in this thread that I was going on a skating date with this girl I know. The date went well but there's like no spark between us. Honestly all the conversations that we've had were basic as hell with like no fruition. I'm introverted as hell and she is too. Its like conversation between us always seems forced. I was in class with her today and I feel like I'm over this would rather be friends. Honestly dont what she sees in me but I still think she does like me. (She asked for the date tbh). I dont know what to do, not trying to rude but damn is it rough.

I'm 19 and I feel like I wouldn't mind being in a relationship but at the same time its like I dont really care for it.
I would argue that you should always go on a second date if there's "no spark." One of the most fun relationships I've been in had an awkward first date but an excellent second one.
 
Tinder...man. What an awesome self esteem boost haha.

If you're not half bad looking, get the app and chat with other not half bad looking people!

I must look pretty sad then. Have nearly never even had a Tinder match. The few that did have never responded and a bunch blocked me, so those might have been accidental likes on their part. =P
 
I must look pretty sad then. Have nearly never even had a Tinder match. The few that did have never responded and a bunch blocked me, so those might have been accidental likes on their part. =P
Hm, maybe you need to lower your standards? :p

I'm such a dunce....

So I've been wondering why I never received a response from the two girls I've messaged on facebook. Hmmmmmmm, I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that my profile pic is not me but instead a Zdzisław Beksiński painting! I've had as my profile pic for over a year and have just gotten used to it. Granted, this is probably not the only reason but it sure is a big one.

I'm sorry I just had to vent here and laugh about the whole thing....
Change your profile pic.

Getting pretty anxious to meet FB girl on Friday. It's going to be a bit strange though...first time I'm going into a first date this late into the game. We've already talked for probably a good 20 hours over the past week (combination of FB and phone) so there's already a really strong connection there. I'm almost unsure how to approach this. I mean, I'm just going to go have some tea with her and talk, and try to form a physical connection, but it's definitely throwing me a bit out of my comfort zone as far as first dates go.
Remember that she takes shits too.
 
Hm, maybe you need to lower your standards? :p
I'm not even that picky! Well, I mean, I'm way too.picky for my own good, but for a first-pass "would I at least be interested in saying 'hi'" sort of sense on Tinder, I'm really not picky at all.
 
I've been thinking about giving tinder a whirl for the hell of it. Does it post anything to your wall and can your friends see that you use it?
 
I tried it but nobody in my area knows it exists basically. I found like five people in my surroundings and none were active there. Probably works better in a big city/country just like OKC.
 
Why does it need access to my friends list? Is it going to match me up with friends or what?!

Probably not. I've been offered a friend's profile exactly once. (maybe all my friends who use Tinder have proactively rejected me? I assume Tinder wouldn't bother showing me profiles of people who have rejected me already, but maybe I'm giving them too much credit.)

You'll often see people who are friends with your friends, though.
 
Tinder...man. What an awesome self esteem boost haha.

If you're not half bad looking, get the app and chat with other not half bad looking people!

Is this the thing that needs access to your Facebook account? I just recently deactivated mine and don't want to start it up again.
 
I can say that I will be able to be friends with the girl that has stuck me in the friendzone for now. Had some drinks with her and her friends at their normal hangout last night and it didn't take long before we were talking about everything and catching up and I still feel very comfortable around her. No awkwardness!

Downloaded Tinder and there aren't many women in my age target here. Lots of hot college girls though.
 
Cool thanks guys.

I set up an account and have "liked" over 50 women and nothing.....

Jesus, I know I'm ugly but I didn't think I was fucking hideous lol.
 
Cool thanks guys.

I set up an account and have "liked" over 50 women and nothing.....

Jesus, I know I'm ugly but I didn't think I was fucking hideous lol.
It's just the nature of the beast. It's impossible to tell how many girls are inactive or fake. I've recently gone through over a thousand girls in my general area on badoo.com, picking yes or maybe on a majority of them I'm guessing. I've been matched maaaaybe 15 times so far. Not the same app of course but this is pretty standard. But I'm also picky, only saying yes or maybe on girl that I can travel to with ease, unlike my friends who say yes to everything just to collect matches all across the country with no age limit either. They're having more success than me, at least with opening a conversation (if you'd call it that...)

In general: Being a fairly unknown app, Tinder is probably gonna be a lot more hit or miss than regular popular dating sites, and they can be really terrible as well. No matter how you toss it, online will always be worse than talking to someone irl. I don't care why clubs or social gatherings "aren't for you", learn to like it and go there anyway and socialize :)
 
So, I guess I suck at reading signals, gaf.

I've been going to a gym for a month now and one of the receptionists I think is pretty cute. I don't really think too much of it, but just this Sunday, when I got back to the gym after the holidays, she asked me how my new years was. Now, I know she probably asks everyone that. Anyway, I told her that mine was good, and it was pretty fun and such. Asked her how hers was. "Not that great, boring. My family isn't here." And for some odd reason I just said "That's too bad."

When I got into the change-room I realized I should have asked for her number and to hang out, but I didn't get the chance that night. So, yesterday, while getting my wristband, I commented that I've been going to the gym for a month and I don't know her name. Asked her what it is. (Yeah, I suppose that's late.) Told me it, then I asked her for her number, it'd be fun to hang out. She told me "Maybe, I'll give it to you after your workout." And then after I finish she's not there. Asked a coworker and he said she probably had to do some errand for the boss. I waited like 10 minutes and started to feel like a chump, so I left.

Today, talked to her and she said she couldn't give me her number, she has a boyfriend and he wouldn't like it.

So, what the fuck. I realize I should have questioned more and asked if she hung out with friends or a boyfriend when she brought up her new years, but I didn't think of it at the time. Her new years is bad just because of no family, but she has a boyfriend here? She could have just said she doesn't want to give it or told me yesterday that she has a boyfriend, but she didn't.

I don't know, gaf. This was pretty much the first girl I've ever really asked for her number, maybe I came accross bad? Thought I was pretty confident.

Also, I'm trying that online dating, but I've never gotten anyone to reply back. I cater to everyone and strike up a convo, but I don't know. Whatever, I'm not worried about the online dating anyway.
 
Wow...FB girl actually came out with the question "are you religious?". Thankfully we see eye to eye on the subject.

So, I guess I suck at reading signals, gaf.

I've been going to a gym for a month now and one of the receptionists I think is pretty cute. I don't really think too much of it, but just this Sunday, when I got back to the gym after the holidays, she asked me how my new years was. Now, I know she probably asks everyone that. Anyway, I told her that mine was good, and it was pretty fun and such. Asked her how hers was. "Not that great, boring. My family isn't here." And for some odd reason I just said "That's too bad."

When I got into the change-room I realized I should have asked for her number and to hang out, but I didn't get the chance that night. So, yesterday, while getting my wristband, I commented that I've been going to the gym for a month and I don't know her name. Asked her what it is. (Yeah, I suppose that's late.) Told me it, then I asked her for her number, it'd be fun to hang out. She told me "Maybe, I'll give it to you after your workout." And then after I finish she's not there. Asked a coworker and he said she probably had to do some errand for the boss. I waited like 10 minutes and started to feel like a chump, so I left.

Today, talked to her and she said she couldn't give me her number, she has a boyfriend and he wouldn't like it.

So, what the fuck. I realize I should have questioned more and asked if she hung out with friends or a boyfriend when she brought up her new years, but I didn't think of it at the time. Her new years is bad just because of no family, but she has a boyfriend here? She could have just said she doesn't want to give it or told me yesterday that she has a boyfriend, but she didn't.

I don't know, gaf. This was pretty much the first girl I've ever really asked for her number, maybe I came accross bad? Thought I was pretty confident.

Also, I'm trying that online dating, but I've never gotten anyone to reply back. I cater to everyone and strike up a convo, but I don't know. Whatever, I'm not worried about the online dating anyway.

Just assume she's not interested and move on. It doesn't matter whether she has a boyfriend or not. Don't assume everyone you talk to is interested. Getting shot down is really not that big of a deal.
 
Wow...FB girl actually came out with the question "are you religious?". Thankfully we see eye to eye on the subject.



Just assume she's not interested and move on. It doesn't matter whether she has a boyfriend or not. Don't assume everyone you talk to is interested. Getting shot down is really not that big of a deal.

I know to move on. Better to be rejected than to go unknowing.
 
Wow...FB girl actually came out with the question "are you religious?". Thankfully we see eye to eye on the subject.
In my personal experience - the only girls that ask this question are atheists.;p
 
My heart is just not into dating at the moment, though I am in a deep philosophical discussion with this one girl on OKC.

Mostly, I just have so much university stuff on my mind, and I want to just get all of that cleared so I can move away. I got a great buddy though, who said he cares for the sex life of his mates and that he'd try to get me a lady friend (How could I decline that?).
 
My heart is just not into dating at the moment, though I am in a deep philosophical discussion with this one girl on OKC.

Mostly, I just have so much university stuff on my mind, and I want to just get all of that cleared so I can move away. I got a great buddy though, who said he cares for the sex life of his mates and that he'd try to get me a lady friend (How could I decline that?).

so basically, no real effort but all the options!
lucky bastard :D

btw, I directly confronted the guy I was talking about a few days ago, as GAF told me to. I already got the vibe he wasn't interested but still had some questions left but yeah, my feeling was right after all :/
 
So this past christmas and new year's my girlfriend went to the beach with her family. I couldn't join them since I had to work. She told me that the son of one of her father's girlfriends tried to kiss her but she rejected him, she told me this btw. After this she continued talking with him and apparently became friends.

She's my first girlfriend, I'm 21 she's 20 before anybody asks. I tried not to let jealousy make me do anything crazy but I ended up telling her that I felt somewhat uncomfortable that they became such good friends so fast especially after what happened. I'm guessing the kid knew she wasn't single.

Today she comes to me saying she wants a break because she's confused about the way she feels about him and me.

I'm feeling pretty shitty after receiving that news. We talked a bit on facebook if only because she was working and I couldn't go down there at the moment to have the conversation in person. I'm not sure I believe in "taking a break" (nobody post the ross pic please), so I don't know what I should do really.
 
so basically, no real effort but all the options!
lucky bastard :D

btw, I directly confronted the guy I was talking about a few days ago, as GAF told me to. I already got the vibe he wasn't interested but still had some questions left but yeah, my feeling was right after all :/

All you can do is shrug it off and keep on trucking. At least now you can trust your feelings a bit more.

So this past christmas and new year's my girlfriend went to the beach with her family. I couldn't join them since I had to work. She told me that the son of one of her father's girlfriends tried to kiss her but she rejected him, she told me this btw. After this she continued talking with him and apparently became friends.

She's my first girlfriend, I'm 21 she's 20 before anybody asks. I tried not to let jealousy make me do anything crazy but I ended up telling her that I felt somewhat uncomfortable that they became such good friends so fast especially after what happened. I'm guessing the kid knew she wasn't single.

Today she comes to me saying she wants a break because she's confused about the way she feels about him and me.

I'm feeling pretty shitty after receiving that news. We talked a bit on facebook if only because she was working and I couldn't go down there at the moment to have the conversation in person. I'm not sure I believe in "taking a break" (nobody post the ross pic please), so I don't know what I should do really.

Sorry to hear about that, but at least she's being honest with you. When it comes to taking a break, I think it's best to treat it as an actual end - rather than linger on. If you've both gotten over one another, widened your horizons, and still would like to get together after some time then that's fine. Or the two of you might realize that you're happier separated.
 
Honestly we haven't been together that long, we started dating back in August. I feel like if she's already having these doubts then we might as well just end it now.

I realize that her sincerity is a good thing and it honestly saves a lot of headaches. I'll admit that I haven't gotten over her, it's tearing me up seeing this unfold but I can't shy away from it and I definitely don't intend to keep trying to maintain something that will cost me my happiness.

Still sucks though.
 
GAF, I think I already know the answer to this, but figured I'd ask all of your opinions anyhow and I kind of just want to type it all out and get it out of my head, if that makes sense. Never posted in this thread before, but I've followed it since the first one with Combine. Just as a heads up I've been out of the dating scene for years, just going through some weird things, but I'm finally starting to get my shit together so I started to put myself out there again.

So I met this one girl in my bio class, and she was off the bat extremely flirty (and also extremely hot, the hottest girl in the class easily), but she had a boyfriend. I struggled with this for perhaps a week before deciding to not pursue anything but if she sets something up I'm gonna go for it. Skip to the end of the semester, we are getting some lunch with a mutual friend and she tells me she broke up with her boyfriend and then goes on to tell me how she was thinking of me the night they broke up and it made her happy. Awesome, right? Now I wasn't looking for any kind of serious relationship with this girl, shes a bit too flirty and immature for that, but I still wanted to have some fun dates and hook ups with her.

So we go on a date to get some food, she then wants to buy a few things at the mall including bringing me into a Victoria's Secret so she can buy these extremely small panties and a bra. At one point I notice that she doesn't have my name in her contacts list, its just my number. I ask her why and she says its so she can remember my number better. Fast forward to end of the date, I'm in her car, shes looking at me, I'm looking at her, then when I go in for a kiss....she brings her cell phone out and starts just random texting. I ask her if she actually knows my number (not really thinking she would), and to my surprise she does. When I tell her "wow, good job, I didn't think you'd actually know it"...she starts to cry. I ask her why she's crying and she says its cus I was proud of her. Oh boy. GAF, what the hell do I do in this situation?? I grab her and hold her a bit, and then when I give her hand a reassuring and gentle press, shes LURCHES it out of my grip. I am so confused, what the hell? So I just tell her that it's gonna be ok, she should get home and get some rest, and I'll see her later.

That was 3 weeks ago. She pretty much ignored my texts for a week or two, I figure she scared herself off with the crying bit, and then she started texting me again sometime last week. We made plans to meet up yesterday. So we meet up for lunch, much flirting was had, we go to a book store and just hang out for a bit. She brings up going to my house to watch a movie or something, but my house is off limits this week due to some family drama. She just kinda stares into my eyes I'm staring into hers, she licks her lips, I go in for the kiss and she turns her cheek. When I ask "wait hold on, you don't want to kiss? (I realize this is probably the least smooth thing ever, but like I said...I've been out of the dating scene for years, and I wasn't the most smooth person to begin with.) and then she goes "on the lips?!" almost disgusted and certainly confused.. I'm in complete shock here, this girl has sent nothing but signals implying she was down to hook up, and all I'm trying to do here is kiss her, what's the problem? After a bit of embarrassing "I'm sorry"s from the both of us I decide to leave.

So GAF, what the hell went on there? She was always extremely flirty, made constant allusions to sex and wanting to hook up, was very touchy, brought me into a Victoria's Secret, wanted to head back to my place, giving me compliments and saying how great I am all the time, but anytime I tried to kiss her she deflected it in some of the strangest ways possible. Was she just that desperate for attention or did I mess something up somehow? After yesterday I kind of decided I wasn't gonna talk to her again, seemed like too much of a headache, but damn is she hot.
 
So GAF, what the hell went on there? She was always extremely flirty, made constant allusions to sex and wanting to hook up, was very touchy, brought me into a Victoria's Secret, wanted to head back to my place, giving me compliments and saying how great I am all the time, but anytime I tried to kiss her she deflected it in some of the strangest ways possible. Was she just that desperate for attention or did I mess something up somehow? After yesterday I kind of decided I wasn't gonna talk to her again, seemed like too much of a headache, but damn is she hot.

I'm not an expert, but to me it sounds like you're just an attention giving rebound. Heck, her BF may have broken up with her and she could have just lied to you about it. It seems like she just wants attention, especially at the part where she took you to Victoria's Secret.
 
I'm not an expert, but to me it sounds like you're just an attention giving rebound. Heck, her BF may have broken up with her and she could have just lied to you about it. It seems like she just wants attention, especially at the part where she took you to Victoria's Secret.

Yeah, I think you might want to bail out of this one.


I got back yesterday from a mid-week trip to visit my ladyfriend. It was only the second time we had seen each other after her initial visit before Christmas, so it was nice having a few days together with no work or anything to worry about. We originally planned on actually doing stuff around the city, but since it was like 4 degrees out we spent most of the time in bed watching movies and doing consenting adult things. So it was pretty great all around and she still seems very much into me. Also the drive to her isn't too terrible and I'll probably manage it GPS-free after a couple more trips, which is always nice. She's busy for the next few weeks so we have no current plans to see each other in the immediate future, but I'm sure we will before too long and I'm looking forward to it.
 
Yeah, that's pretty much what I surmised as well. Just kind of wanted reassurance that ignoring her/forgetting about her was the right move, which I knew that it was, but at times the wrong head starts to win out, ya know?
 
d'aww since I don't have any dates of my own I'm excited for you now haha
good luck & tell us everything :3 but it will go well, I'm more than certain!

I'm vicariously enjoying each and every successful event in this thread.

@CHUNKYBOWSER: Dude, take an u-turn away from that mess in making. Make it clear to her you don't play games, and if she continues then abandon ship.
 
@TerminalDogma

You've been used for comfort and attention-giving. Just ignore her and move on, she sounds quite confused and immature.
 
Think I blew a date for tomorrow night an hour ago.

Got a girls number earlier this week and started talking to her over WhatsApp. I ask her out to a quirky pub in Covent Garden tomorrow night and she accepts. Things going well until this evening. When I get home from work I send her a casual little message, she responds, we start having a conversation. I mention that I just plan to stay in tonight as I started watching American Horror Story last night, and also asked if she had seen it. She hadn't, and then I say it's weird but she may not like it if she's squeamish. Apparently she likes stuff like that AND THEN FUCKING SAYS "Wanna watch it together? :))"

I haven't met her yet and she's remarkably average in the looks department. I'm not feeling physical attraction towards her based on pictures, but I think she likes me. I'm not frigid, but I was just looking for a typical first date experience with this chick tomorrow and now I think I've ruined my chances with this message:

"I wouldn't want to embarrass myself by cowering behind you!
Let's just pub it up tomorrow night. I don't even know if you're legit or a 50 year old man yet ;)"

Clearly I wasn't being overly serious with my response, but the message is clear: I don't want to bring her home on a first date. I think she got put off by this or possibly offended as it's been over an hour since I sent it and the rest of our conversation this evening consisted of quick exchanges.

As I've progressed much further beyond just talking on the dating website I'll send her a follow-up later to apologise if I offended her and ask if we're still on for tomorrow, but I'm not liking my chances.
 
Think I blew a date for tomorrow night an hour ago.

Got a girls number earlier this week and started talking to her over WhatsApp. I ask her out to a quirky pub in Covent Garden tomorrow night and she accepts. Things going well until this evening. When I get home from work I send her a casual little message, she responds, we start having a conversation. I mention that I just plan to stay in tonight as I started watching American Horror Story last night, and also asked if she had seen it. She hadn't, and then I say it's weird but she may not like it if she's squeamish. Apparently she likes stuff like that AND THEN FUCKING SAYS "Wanna watch it together? :))"

I haven't met her yet and she's remarkably average in the looks department. I'm not feeling physical attraction towards her based on pictures, but I think she likes me. I'm not frigid, but I was just looking for a typical first date experience with this chick tomorrow and now I think I've ruined my chances with this message:

"I wouldn't want to embarrass myself by cowering behind you!
Let's just pub it up tomorrow night. I don't even know if you're legit or a 50 year old man yet ;)"

Clearly I wasn't being overly serious with my response, but the message is clear: I don't want to bring her home on a first date. I think she got put off by this or possibly offended as it's been over an hour since I sent it and the rest of our conversation this evening consisted of quick exchanges.

As I've progressed much further beyond just talking on the dating website I'll send her a follow-up later to apologise if I offended her and ask if we're still on for tomorrow, but I'm not liking my chances.

you should not have said that, you should not have said that.
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but yeah just apologise and make clear that you're looking forward to the date
 
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